Skip to comments.Reported on FOX News a little ago. Illigals have killed 45,000 US citizens since 9/11
Posted on 01/24/2007 3:00:13 PM PST by stockpirate
There were two woman on the show being interviwed and I only caught a piece of it.
But the main part was that since 9/11 over 45,000 US citizens have been killed by illigal aliens in the US.
Does anyone know more about this as I am very interested. They said the numbers came from a US Congressman or Senator.
also one person was with the boarder militia group, so there were three people.
The biggest MD crime story last year was the entire family shot and hacked to death in their home by illegals.
How does that profit him? It does not. To the contrary, it profits the Chamber of Commerce to continue to do the opposite. They are calling the tune on this policy.
Suppose we could get the global warming folks to throw a little funding at this?
Look at that. 74 posts for somebody to bring this up.
Good job! The rest can go review "Reading is Fundamental".
And the illegals keep getting rewarded here in Texas... Rick Perry signed into law some time ago allowing for ILLEGALS to be entitled to in-state college tuition.
It is hard enough keeping these folks out of the country without a Southern wall... it is actions like Perry's and his enablers that give ILLEGALS even more incentive to come over.
Just killing the Americans that Americans won't kill.
Has anyone said this yet? lol
I think that number is high HOWEVER, even one is one too many in my opinion.
I live in Washington State and can tell you that there are many rural counties that suffer greatly from illegals committing crime and the costs to the taxpayers is overwhelming. These same counties rely on these same illegals for agriculture so it's a catch-22.
Recently we had a suspected illegal arrested for murder in the center of the state. He killed one and shot another in the head. Now we have Joe Illegal sitting in jail for murder, one in ICU for week #2 on the taxpayers dime, and the dead citizen (not the upstanding sort from what I understand). I don't know what the medical bill will be for the guy in the hospital but I imagine it is'nt cheap! Now we can pay for the expensive defense/prosecution of Joe Illegal in court.
One story among many.... is'nt America grand????
Schools, Jails, law enforcement, social services, public assistance, low income housing, courts, medical expenses, DUI's, litter, DUI's/accidents, drugs, higher insurance premiums........ the list goes on and on we all pay through the nose for it.
I believe the last 4 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in Eastern Washington were killed by illegals.
All this for cheap fruit/vegetables????
From reading the link that a poster gave in the beginning of the thread I think the number is pretty close to the truth.
Yeah, but how does that stack up against the number of US troops killed in Iraq??
/bad attempt at irony and black humor
It might be closer to the truth than we imagine. There are lots of DUI fatalities in Eastern Washington that involve illegals.... one a weekend would be a fair guess if you checked news links for Yakima, Moses Lake, or the Tri-cities.
Just read the Yakima newspaper every day for a couple of months and you will start to get an idea. It's brutal! I would guess there is a 50% Hispanic population in the county and probably 1/10th the population of King County (Seattle). I think most years Yakima County gives Seattle a run for the money in how many homicides they have.... 180K vs 1.800K and close to the same number of homicides. That's amazing!
The numbers I have seen are
13 Auto deaths daily from illegals
12 homicides per day by illegals
In a sane world, the media would be screaming out about the body count as a result of illegals
It is as if there is a WAR witha 45,000 person body count going on and NOBODY CARES!
Of course, since our press is more concerned with the body count in Iraq, it isn't surprising that nobody cares-none of us were AWARE of the mounting death of innocents right here on our own shores.
If you include people killed by drunk illegal drivers I'd imagine it could be.
You still will not answer this question.
Dane will not answer either.
I'm sorry, I believe it. The federal govt. way under estimates the number of illegals here. They have been saying for more than 10 years there are 10 million here.
Reality check there are 30 million here. Vincente Fox gave a speech in Illinois four years ago saying 10% of his population is here in the states. There are towns in Mexico that only have small children and seniors there. The adult population has left and come here to gain employment, and establish themselves here.
90% of inmates in California prisons are illegal aliens. Yes, we are being over run and invaded by another nation. They refer to themselves as reconquistas. They call this nation the Frontier de Norte. They believe this is theirs and they are here to take it back.
This is beyond racism, this is a serious problem.
Might be close if you count auto accidents, and gang deaths.
Sure sounds like breaking news to me. Are you opposed to where it's been posted, or that it was posted at all?
Was your mistake by accident or on purpose?
Do the math. It adds up.
250k-300k out of a 250-300M population (1%) of the population has been wounded by illegal aliens? That sounds just a little exaggerated - the hysteria of an obsessed partisan.
Only an idiot super grande would believe that all of those categories of crimes wouldn't be dramatically reduced, if all the illegal aliens deported themselves.
Evidently, there are a couple of those in our White House, Congress and the RNC.
All we have to do is enforce the existing laws and cut off their jobs and welfare and they'll go home all by themselves.
I'm sure Rep. King has crunched the numbers himself and is a credible source.... /sarcasm.
Posted on 01/18/2007 12:42:13 PM CST by grundle
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The man accused of causing the deadly crash has four previous felony convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, according to court records. Monday, Rafael Ramirez Perez, 22, was driving without a valid driver's license while on probation for his most recent drunken driving conviction, NBC 7/39 reported.
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Actually, he has, and is a very credible source. He's one of the best conservatives in Congress. Your sarcasm is misplaced.
Lawmakers do ALL sorts of things to reduce unnecessary deaths - even as much as banning children's toys blamed for 0.00001% population deaths or 30 per year.
If enforcement of codes could cut a mortality rate of 25 per day to just 15 - a mere 40% reduction - roughly 5500 per year, would you say it's worth the effort?
Before you answer, look around at 10 of YOUR friends, family, and acquaintences and imagine them snuffed today, another 10 tomorrow, another 10 the day after...
The sad story that I posted above? I could post from now until Sunday and not begin to run out of others just like it.
Clearly, the government of the United States is not in the business of domestic security.
Did they say killed or casualties?
A lot of people have been hurt and/or maimed by illegals.
EV's Seven Point Plan for ending the immigration problem
1. Secure the border.
2. Prosecute employers who break the law.
3. Roll up the benefit red carpet.
4. Deport. Rinse. Repeat.
5. Enlist local law enforcement.
6. End the misinterpretation of the Constitution that allows anchor babies.
7. Fire every politician who has no regard for the sovereignty of our territory, or the safety and security of our people.
You Pro-Criminal Open Border Nutz never miss an opportunity to make a complete fool of yourself. Bravo! Blackbird.
Ours Loons are doozies too.
Loads of BS in that article. Figures pulled out of their @$$es are reported as fact. Wild exaggerations are swallowed without blinking an eye.
Your estimate sounds far more believable.
It is a wild exaggeration pulled out of some guy's butt.
Do we get to subtract the number of Illegals killed by Illegals?
Does this help prove the point that 94.87% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
Illegals are mostly thugs and bad drivers [You guys break me up.]
That's about the same estimate (if you do a little math) that conservative Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa gave last year during the marxist-organized marches of illegal alien invaders.
count in TB, chagas, bed bugs, driving without a license, drug trafficking and gang activity.
It is "possible" that almost all deaths are by Illegals but it is not true. Neither is this figure accurate being ginned up by polemicists against Illegal Immigration. Anyone involved in an incident with a Spanish name is probably thrown into the calculation as an Illegal.
In Chicago the vast majority of murders are gang related. Some are by Illegals but those are a small minority since our homegrown thugs take care of most killings.
How many Americans (any race) have been killed by African-Americans since 9-11?
You distort the representation. Only 4300 per year are attributed to homicide. That would only be 25%, a believable number. The remaining are attributed to drunk driving and the like
A few weeks ago, I saw a breakdown of the study that congressman King refers to. The methodology used looked valid. I did not verify the base numbers in any way, so I would not take the results as Gospel. The study did seem worthy of peer review for validity and after seeing the components they were assessing I would not have a hard time believing the results.
I can see where someone said "45 hundred" and someone else thought "45 thousand" or merely misplacing the decimal point. It happens all the time.
Even adding accidental deaths into the number does not make it believable. Illegals are about 4% of the population and the claim that they are responsible for over 11% of deaths by car and murder is not credible. Illegals are less likely to even have a car than a citizen so that makes the claim even more suspect.
Someone took the wrong numbers. Take a look at this:
"Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That's 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001."
Twenty five percent is NOT a believable number. And Illegal is not nearly ten times as likely to commit murder.
Now I would believe that the ~4% of the population which are Illegal might commit 5-6% of the murders but not 25%.
You can rest assured that any number in a news story is suspect. And that includes the business pages for most papers. Pathetic.