Mayors' Summit on Illegal Arms Draws Fire From Gun Rights Group

CNS News ^ | January 24, 2007 | Randy Hall

[mouser]

However, they will not address the issues that are the problem and that is out of control kids, ghetto culture, drug and alcohol abuse and poverty.

I will give you the ghetto culture, the problems of drug and alcohol abuse which seems a part of the ghetto culture. But poverty is not a part of it. The generation who lived through the depression saw poverty in amounts never seen sense. Crime was not the problem them that it is now. Being poor dose not lead to a life of crime being raised with no morals or self discipline dose.

[BCR #226]

Shot my first gun at 4, owned my first gun at 6. I'll surrender my guns when it's a cold day in Hell. Bloomberg has given in kind contributions to liberal Dems... he should be ousted from the Republican party. He's also violated civil rights, committed entrapment, possibly falsified evidence, and has violated quite a few Federal gun laws. Now, why is he still out on the street and not in jail?

Mike

[wku man]

Yep, especially considering the surplus ammo market is drying up. South Africa, which has some nice surplus .308, just signed on to some UN resolution declaring the US a terrorist state, or something to that effect, because of the war. The signatories agreed not to ship arms or ammo to us anymore. Ammo is going to skyrocket this year, worse than anything we've seen so far.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[misterrob]

Poverty is a self-perpetuating disease in our world today. It has numerous side effects and acts as a destabilizing force.

[Dead Corpse]

Kids who are taught how to legally use firearms are much less likely to use them illegaly. Such as carrying them in gang related violence, DF.

Do I need to use smaller words?

[blackie]

When will these jerks sit down and shut up!!

[from occupied ga]

context it was offered under then you can spin anything you want

It wasn't obvious to me that's what you meant, and probably wasn't obvious to the other person either.

[from occupied ga]

why is he still out on the street and not in jail?

Because he's part of the government - one of them rather than one of us. Different rules apply for government bureaucrats than to us serfs.

[oyez]

The mean and stupid don't keep up with gun laws. In fact restrictive gun laws would make them bolder knowing Joe Lawabider is without protection. Enforce the laws that are on the books.

I would say our problems are not guns, but judges and advocates that see that criminals remain on the streets. These people should be held criminally responsible for the crimes of the criminals thye set free.

[blackie]

Roger that ~ it seems that the arrogant jerks have taken over!

[P8riot]

You stated in a previous post specifically that

Yes, guns should not be allowed in the hands of kids (IMO)

You didn't make any qualifications, so I believe that he was simply responding to an absolute statement by you, and now you're trying to say he was out of context. Personally I think that kids should be allowed access to and be traind with firearms at an early age, but not concealed carry, which would be pretty absurd.

Absolutely right f_o_g. I in no way endorsed concealed carry for my 5yr old. It was just a response to the broad brush ststement by misterrob. In our homeschool marksmanship is a required course every year until high school graduation.

[misterrob]

They are barking up the wrong tree. Yes, guns should not be allowed in the hands of kids (IMO) just like we tell them that they cannot drink, drive a car, enlist or vote until they reach a certain age. However, they will not address the issues that are the problem and that is out of control kids, ghetto culture, drug and alcohol abuse and poverty.

Solve those and people will have less of a need to go bust a cap in someone's ass.....

I am talking about their efforts to make gun control the solution to a problem that really isn't about the gun.

In my opinion, there is no reason to allow kids to carry (which is different than supervised use of a firearm under managed situation) and especially so since the overwhelming majority have no understanding of what they are doing and the way that they misuse them.

[oyez]

Where is it that the arrogant jerks live? I'd like to check that out. Apparently they don't have to do their own shopping, banking and etc. Where ever its is, they don't have to mingle with the mean and the stupid.

What I'm getting at is, those that tell us we shouldn't have personal protection don't live in our world. They have the benefit of living in a gated community and are afforded the protection of armed guards.

[archy]

During its day-long event, the Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition (MAIG) "discussed the importance of gun trace data, joint lobbying against harmful federal legislation, cutting-edge political strategies and the unique initiatives being undertaken by mayors across the country on this issue," the group said in a news release.

The mayors also announced the creation of "a bi-partisan Congressional Task Force on Illegal Guns," which is to be led by Reps. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.), John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.), Peter King (R-N.Y.) and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.).

UNITED STATES CODE, U.S. CRIMINAL CODE
Title 18, § 241:

Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both,

or may be sentenced to death.

[blackie]

Ill bet that the NY mayor doesn't go anyplace without an armed guard!

[B4Ranch]

 

 

 

FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE:

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

3. Colt: The original point and click interface.

4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?

6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.

7. "Free" men do not ask permission to bear arms.

8 . If you don't know your rights you don't have any.

9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.

10. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.

11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you NOT understand?

12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.

13. 64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday.

14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.

15. Know guns, know peace, know safety.  No guns, no peace, no safety.

16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

17. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.

18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.

19. Criminals love gun control -- it makes their job safer.

20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.

21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens, tries to control them.

22. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

23. Enforce the "gun control laws" we ALREADY have:  Don't make more.

24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.

25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

26. "A government of the people, by the people, for the people..."

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