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Reporter Disputes Ari Fleischer's Testimony at CIA Leak Trial (David Gregory told of Wilson's wife)
Foxnews ^ | 1/30/2007 | Foxnews

Posted on 01/30/2007 9:29:01 AM PST by tobyhill

WASHINGTON — A former Time Magazine correspondent says former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer got it wrong when he testified under oath Monday at the CIA leak trial that he disclosed to the journalist the identity of a secret CIA operative.

"I assumed that in some context, my name would come up," John Dickerson, Slate Magazine's chief political correspondent, told FOXNews.com on his way Tuesday to cover the trial. "I didn't realize it would come up in that fashion."

Fleischer took the stand Monday to answer questions in the trial of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. Libby is charged with perjury and obstruction relating to the investigation of who outed CIA operative Valerie Plame.

Fleischer also testified that he first heard about Plame from Libby over lunch on July 7, 2003. Libby says he first learned about Plame on July 10 from NBC reporter Tim Russert.

Dickerson said he was surprised when he heard his name — and his photo popped up on the big screen in the courtroom — when Fleisher took the stand.

"I was at the Scooter Libby trial to cover it, and all of a sudden, I found myself in the middle of the case," Dickerson wrote.

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To: Howlin

I think it might have been that T-shirt that says "Hang 'em All!"


51 posted on 01/30/2007 9:54:55 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: woofie
Personally I would be reluctant to tell anybody called "Scooter" anything. But hey that's just me.

I am sure I told everyone in the press at one point that Plame worked for the CIA and that was somewhere before or after she outed herself ten years before Scooter did or did he. I just can't remember.

52 posted on 01/30/2007 9:54:57 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (So many geeks so few circuses.)
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To: popdonnelly
They all knew. The Wilsons went gallivanting around Washington together on the social scene with reporters all around so anyone knowing her name as Valerie then hearing "Wilson's Wife" would assume Valerie Wilson.
53 posted on 01/30/2007 9:55:28 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: MEGoody

That's the reason Fitzgerald insisted that this shouldn't even be mentioned in this trial - that's why defense should impeach his reasons and motives for the "investigation" that should have never started...

Nifong-ing Fitzgerald should be part of defense strategy


54 posted on 01/30/2007 9:57:05 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: TommyDale

I think it was when they asked me if I could put aside my feelings about cocaine to give the "defendant" a fair trial and I said no.

They seemed astounded.


55 posted on 01/30/2007 9:57:09 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: mass55th

My feeling exactley. I wish we could get the transcripts of all the people saying that purgery is really not a crime when it came to Wild Bill Clinton.


56 posted on 01/30/2007 9:58:13 AM PST by Holicheese (Beerfest could be the greatest movie ever made!)
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To: tobyhill

Exactly! Valerie Plame Wilson was running round getting her picture taken, trying to look like a sleazy Sharon Stone. On that she did a fairly good job.


57 posted on 01/30/2007 9:58:39 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: Howlin

Seems like there was a lot of reading and talking going on with that plane trip where someone left that memo lying around. (I haven't bothered working hard to keep track of details since this turned into broad farce...)

If she's not covered by the Covert Personnel statute, isn't this more like drawing 'first lymph'??? LOL

But Libby has worked both sides of lots of aisles, he has enemies that are more secret than Mrs. Wilson, I would suspect. ;-)


58 posted on 01/30/2007 9:58:48 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Howlin; Enchante

It was made clear earlier that Ari was already on his way out because he was getting married and had a job offer.


59 posted on 01/30/2007 10:00:34 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Enchante

The people who were sure they had 'leaked' before Novak's column have all resigned, haven't they?

I guess Bush didn't lie... ;-)


60 posted on 01/30/2007 10:00:45 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Howlin

Judy Miller up next


61 posted on 01/30/2007 10:02:16 AM PST by woofie (Its Patriotic to be Hateful,Nasty,Stupid and Destroy the Country as long as you are a Democrat)
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To: Howlin


LOL.

Is that a bad thing? I suppose if its big trial being on the jury isn't so bad. As long as you know the truth before the trial starts. LOL


62 posted on 01/30/2007 10:09:45 AM PST by JRochelle
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To: tobyhill
Let me make sure I understand this: There was never any crime for leaking Plame's name and the prosecutor knew this from day one, yet he is complaining that someone might have lied about a recollection even though the recollection is moot and will never point to any underlying crime.

The judge should have thrown the case out early on on a matter or principal and the prosecutor should be hung for wasting millions of taxpayer dollars.
63 posted on 01/30/2007 10:13:05 AM PST by Hendrix
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To: Hendrix

I think you're right.


64 posted on 01/30/2007 10:19:48 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: woofie

Gee whiz, I think I saw her listed in Howard Hunt's "date book" ~ but who knows eh?!


65 posted on 01/30/2007 10:20:46 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I do not know if this law was repealed or just ignored!

It was repealed when ronnie earle was elected as the Travis Co. DA the first time. /sarcasm

66 posted on 01/30/2007 10:21:53 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The terrorists have many allies in the United States, especially in the democrat party.)
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To: Hendrix
"...the prosecutor should be hung for wasting millions of taxpayer dollars."

The prosecutor is a Democrat, and he knows that only Republicans pay taxes.

67 posted on 01/30/2007 10:21:56 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: CutePuppy; Howlin; Enchante; unsycophant; Doctor Raoul; brucebrucebruceoftheforest
It was made clear earlier that Ari was already on his way out because he was getting married and had a job offer.

No, no, no. I was in D.C. that day having lunch at The Willard with my brother and he confided in me that Ari was pregnant and he said he heard it from Andrea Mitchell or somebody else who drinks too much.

P.S.

Howlin's letter carrier was Jimmy Carter's cousin.

68 posted on 01/30/2007 10:24:40 AM PST by harrowup (Rodham is just pimping for Billy)
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To: Eva
Richard Cohen (whether you like him or not) was once called as a witness in some one of the many Watergate hearings.

He did so without objection.

First thing they asked him for were his "reporter's notes" which he gladly handed over.

Richard said he had dyslyxia and writer's cramp (actual maladies that really do make your meaningless writing unreadable) so bad that even he couldn't read his notes once they were no longer "fresh".

Here we are finding that Richard is not alone ~ these reporters have gotten so used to keyboards they can no longer "take notes" that mean anything to anybody, and there go all the dates.

Fitzgerald should have read Cohen's commentaries on notes.

69 posted on 01/30/2007 10:25:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: woofie
Indeed! What a sham this is, even everyone being called can't get it straight.If the judge had any sense at all he would throw the case out and really get on Fritzy's case.
70 posted on 01/30/2007 10:26:03 AM PST by JimFreedom (let's not let good be the enemy of perfect to our detriment. - Cable225)
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To: mass55th

If I have to testify can I bring my wife with me? She remebers everything I ever said!


71 posted on 01/30/2007 10:26:28 AM PST by dblshot
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To: dblshot

My wife only remembers the bad stuff


72 posted on 01/30/2007 10:27:51 AM PST by woofie (Its Patriotic to be Hateful,Nasty,Stupid and Destroy the Country as long as you are a Democrat)
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To: Enchante

My translation of that statement is that Dickerson has destroyed any notes on the matter and is distancing himeslf from the whole affair as best he can...


73 posted on 01/30/2007 10:28:30 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: dblshot

And everything you didn't say!


74 posted on 01/30/2007 10:31:24 AM PST by JimFreedom (let's not let good be the enemy of perfect to our detriment. - Cable225)
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To: harrowup

If the jury can't remember who said what to whom and when, how in heavens are they going to vote "guilty" for anyone else?


75 posted on 01/30/2007 10:31:44 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: All

What happened to Sam Brownback?


76 posted on 01/30/2007 10:36:41 AM PST by guinnessman (Go Bears!)
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To: tobyhill
Fleischer also testified that he first heard about Plame from Libby over lunch on July 7, 2003.

It's time to come clean! My birthday is July 7th. I turned 50 on 7/7/03. As a birthday gift to myself I outed Valerie Plame.

77 posted on 01/30/2007 10:42:20 AM PST by jellybean (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT! Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: guinnessman

Whoops!

It looks like I posted on the wrong thread. They were discussing Sam Brownback on the Rush Limbaugh live thread.

Sorry!


78 posted on 01/30/2007 10:45:27 AM PST by guinnessman (Go Bears!)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

"But Libby has worked both sides of lots of aisles, he has enemies that are more secret than Mrs. Wilson, I would suspect. ;-)"
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Yes, he does :~)
In case you missed this:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1770630/posts


79 posted on 01/30/2007 10:47:28 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: tobyhill

I don't think Ari was a rich man. He wasn't a politician either, so he had to pay his own lawyer, which could be very expensive.

It was smart for him to get immunity and then tell the truth. So assuming he IS telling the truth as he knows it, I don't fault him for it.


80 posted on 01/30/2007 10:52:08 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JimFreedom

This should come only after defense called all the media and State and CIA whores... er, witnesses and get their testimony on the record, not before.

Fitz didn't have a case since Day 1, he created it from the whole cloth.


81 posted on 01/30/2007 10:53:12 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Enchante

Tony Snow didn't replace Ari, and that is a pity. He replaced Scotts his name.


82 posted on 01/30/2007 10:53:49 AM PST by billhilly
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To: Enchante; Howlin
Fleischer resigning White House post

May 20, 2003

Press secretary to leave in July

83 posted on 01/30/2007 11:05:15 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: billhilly
He replaced Scotts his name.

Scott McClellan

84 posted on 01/30/2007 11:07:27 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I find it VERY interesting that Ari's lawyer is Bob Bennett.


85 posted on 01/30/2007 11:07:56 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: Howlin

Ari was leaving White House, and as one who regularly "talked" to reporters he had every reason and every right to request immunity from overzealous prosecutor in exchange for testimony (i.e., he pulled "an Ollie").

His testimony didn't give anything to prosecution that we didn't already know from documents and other witnesses - Libby KNEW Plame's identity when he talked to him, so what? Fitz is trying to crime-monger this to the jury, and it keeps backfiring at every turn because defense keeps successfully hammering at his witnesses' memory and recollections.


86 posted on 01/30/2007 11:07:59 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: JimFreedom
If your wife is anything like mine, she will be able to tell you with certainty WHAT YOU REALLY MEANT TO SAY ! :0 )
87 posted on 01/30/2007 11:10:30 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Enchante
I think a reason that nobody can remember exactly when they first learned that Plame worked for the CIA is because nobody thought it was all that important at the time.

She parked her car everyday in the CIA employee parking lot, so most people probably weren't aware that it was some big state secret that she worked there.

88 posted on 01/30/2007 11:14:17 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Mr. K
When does David Gregory get indicted?

I don't know about Gregory yet, but it looks like Fitzy is gonna have to indict either John Dickerson of Ari Fleischer--maybe he should just indict them both, try them together, and let the jury sort it out. One of them has GOT to be lying because the V. Plame deal was such a matter of all consuming, titantic, monumental importance, it could NEVER be a matter of faulty memory (except apparently with every single prosecution witness called so far).

89 posted on 01/30/2007 11:15:10 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: All
If Ari had already told Gregory, why was Gregory, Matthews and Shuster making out like Rove leaked her name?
90 posted on 01/30/2007 11:19:08 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: CutePuppy

Yep, I read that thread.

Libby was Rich's lawyer in the early years of seeking a pardon...

Who knows who he has po'd in the past.

But they're mostly hoping he will provide access to Cheney's neck, imo.


91 posted on 01/30/2007 11:19:50 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Valerie Plame was named after the first person to climb Mt. Everest-- Lady Edwina Plame-Hillary.


92 posted on 01/30/2007 11:20:48 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: San Jacinto

LOL

It was pseudonym, you know, to protect the *real* first climber's identity!


93 posted on 01/30/2007 11:25:26 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: TexKat

I knew that, but thanks. I thought him to be a very ineffectual spokesman, consequently, a what's his name.


94 posted on 01/30/2007 11:52:39 AM PST by billhilly
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To: San Jacinto

"I don't know about Gregory yet, but it looks like Fitzy is gonna have to indict either John Dickerson of Ari Fleischer.."

Have you already forgotten about Ari's plea agreement? Just in case you have, it granted him immunity from prosecution.


95 posted on 01/30/2007 11:55:47 AM PST by billhilly
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To: tobyhill

That was rhetorical, right? (you know the answer)


96 posted on 01/30/2007 11:59:35 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: billhilly

True, but the plea bargain doesn't cover perjury on the witness stand during the trial. He says he told Dickerson and Dickerson says 'no way'--so since faulty memories can't happen (according to fitzy) then we have a liar.


97 posted on 01/30/2007 12:01:58 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: Mr. K

Yea it was rhetorical. I think MSNBC owes their loyal liberal viewers an explanation and an apology for hyping up a Rove indictment that never came.


98 posted on 01/30/2007 12:06:35 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Howlin

Because Ari made a deal with Fitzgerald.


99 posted on 01/30/2007 12:09:28 PM PST by petitfour
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To: tobyhill
I suspect they were trying to set up Karl Rove for the fall. Even after Libby was indicted, Matthews and Schuster kept insisting Rove was going to be indicted....which suggests to me that even the best lathed plans can go awry.'

Matthews wife was news anchor at channel 7 in DC for over 20 years, and she and Matthews were in Washington Society, so I can't believe they had never heard of Joe and Valerie Plame Wilson! Those two egotists (the Wilsons), I think, would want to be noticed wherever and whenever they could.

I do believe Andrea Mitchell spoke the truth when she said 'reporters knew Wilson's wife worked at the CIA', and I will not be surprised if it is revealed, but denied, that Tim Russert did, in fact, know of and about Valerie Plame. His wife is an investigative reporter with Vanity Fair and other publications, so they move in the "right" social circles in DC also. I can't believe they didn't take a look at the Wilson's when Joe's article that started all of this was published!

100 posted on 01/30/2007 12:43:47 PM PST by PeskyOne
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