Posted on 02/02/2007 5:20:28 AM PST by Zakeet
Liberals boost teacher pay because teachers on average vote for liberals and the money passes through government hands. It is straight rewarding of friends, and trying to get as much of the economy as possible in public hands. None of it has anything to do with performance because there isn't any.
Your point is excellent.
My wife is a high school English teacher and she puts in at least an extra 20 hours a week during the school year grading essays, tests and research papers. Then in the Summer, she does spend time putting together lesson plans and preparing for the next school year so it's not all fun and games.
I call BS on the report for if in reality teachers were making $ 34 an hour, there would be a glut of college graduates in the market looking for these "high" paying jobs.
.... and you assume wrong!!!!!!
I have never heard of a public school district that did not pay its teachers for coaching sports.
Is this a public school? or private?
Always wear your SuperMan suit. It gets rough out there.
Often the "pay" here is only a few hundred dollars here and hardly reflective of the amount of time the coach puts into it.
"Always wear your SuperMan suit. It gets rough out there."
Do you know how much my first graders would tease me if I wore those funny briefs with a cape outside of my pants? I'd never hear the end of it. Geez, they give me a bad enough time as it is. :)
"Often the "pay" here is only a few hundred dollars here and hardly reflective of the amount of time the coach puts into it."
I've experience that...yes.
It is still money that is not counted in the annual salary.
Generally the coaches get a lump sum at the end of the athletic season.
Here it IS counted in the salary.
I will have to ask him what the "pay" is for coaching, but I just know that it was a manditory extra and from what I remember him saying, they give him $8/day extra for doing it. Like he pointed out that sometimes doesn't even cover the gas he uses getting to the games. It's public school in a very poor district.
"Here it IS counted in the salary."
Can you choose?
As in - a choice whether to take the lump sum after coaching duties - or choose to have the extra coaching money figured into the salary?
What I'm wondering is if the coach is getting paid more than other teachers with the same seniority but are not coaching.
If they're forced to coach for free - that is something the union reps wouldn't stand for in most states.
A mandatory extra at $8/day.
Sounds like the union is weak at negotiations.
It depends on the location here. In some you can, in others, it is figured into the salary. Note that the unions here aren't quite as prevalent as in other places (though you'd think they could move mountains by the way some people talk).
"(though you'd think they could move mountains by the way some people talk)."
Oh..they do move mountains in our area.
There's no way they would stand for the situation you describe here.
Most of the teachers at my school and area aren't really political at all because they actually have other things like their family to worry about after school. I am fairly political, but I have so much going on that I don't always have time to deal with the "politics" either. The biggest ones in power here are the bureaucrats (in the legislature). If we cross them too much, some get pretty vindictive. But you make do and do the best job you can.
A year ago, I completely agreed that teachers were at least adequately paid if not over-paid. Then, my best friend became one.
She now makes the same as she did working as an administrative assisstant for an accounting firm. The benefit is all that vacation! The trade-off:
She puts in a good 50-55hrs/wk of work in to her job while school is in session. She feels that to do an adequate job, she would have to put in 60-70hrs a week!She "teaches" special ed in an inner-city urban school. Most of the time, it's more day-care than teaching. Her after-school work starts with daily occurences of detention and additional help for her students who average 2-3years behind in reading and english. After that, she comes home to grade papers, develop lesson plans, fill out IEP government forms, and make routine calls to parents to try to keep them involved in their childs education.
If it's mostly day-care, why care so much, why try? Because her efforts some times pay off. A small fraction of her students show promise and improvement. On a good day, she sees this promise. On a bad day, a child shows the class his private part and two fights break out. There are a lot more bad days then good. The stress of this comes home with her, but it's worth it to make a difference. However, she is not properly educated for the job she has been given. Why? Because no one qualified wants her job, for her pay.
This doesn't even start to give a picture to you of how tough it can actually be. I don't know why I even try.
Does the 34.06 include benefits (health care and pension? both are the best in the entire country). Amen.
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