FBI freezes funds of 'virtual wallet' web payment firm

Guardian UK ^ | Feb. 6, 2007 | Simon Bowers

[Dr.Deth]

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."

- Pres. Gerald Ford

[RockinRight]

THIS is the kind of stuff you need to be worried about.

[RockinRight]

That's not the point. It's stupid, nanny-state sh*t like this that turns people off to "conservatism."

[discostu]

THIS is the kind of stuff our government messing with the clocks enables. Every overreach fuels more overreaches.

[RockinRight]

Kinda like how driving fast causes your children to watch porn.

[discostu]

More like how they used federal road money to make the states change their speed limits and drinking age. Government overreaches live on incrementalism, at one point they thought an income tax rate of over 1% would cause rebellion, but eventually people grew to accept that tax rate so they creeped it up, and up and up. In 100 years they moved Tax Freedom Day from Jan 22 to May 3, that's how an ever more intrusive goverment works.

[RockinRight]

I don't disagree with any of that.

I just don't think something as innocuous as DST has much to do with it.

[mugs99]

Thanks to Mr. Frist I now have to spend time with my wife and kids at night instead of spending that time online playing poker

Don't worry, Phantom. You can still play Bingo and give away your money at Vegas Night at your local church. Bunch of Damn Hypocrits!!!
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[discostu]

But the fact that you would call the government changing what time it is to suit its agenda (remember the primary function of all this is because it supposedly reduces energy usage, any other "benefits" you get are besides the point) innocuous is just proof that DST has a lot to do with it. They're telling you to change your clock so that you will use less electricity, which you're paying for anyway so it's really none of their business how much or little you use. That's big government intrusion.

[mugs99]

That's not the point. It's stupid, nanny-state sh*t like this that turns people off to "conservatism."

It was the straw for me. Went from lifetime Republican to Libertarian.
Only America and Communist China claim that online gambling is a threat to the morals of their nations...What's next on the 'conservative' agenda?
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[LeGrande]

The only difference between Democrats and Republicans is which rights and freedoms they want to take away.

[383rr]

This is what they are: Neo-communists...

http://www.individualistvoice.com/vazsonyi.html

"Vazsonyi lived under two kinds of socialist dictatorships, first the Nazis and then the Soviets, until escaping to America in 1956. He was shocked to see emerging in mid-1960s America the very things he fled. Vazsonyi writes that the present situation "must count among the most amazing spectacles of history to be inundated with the rhetoric, theory, and practice of communism, and see not one communist around. We read and hear daily about class warfare, universal health care, speech codes, sensitivity training...the list goes on and on."

[mugs99]

"The neo-communists learned their lessons from the old communist failures and are waging an extensive, incremental, and well-organized philosophical war against individual freedom that targets virtually all facets of American life."...Vazsonyi

Looks like the neocons are actually neocoms!
Great link...thanks!
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[383rr]

I came across that link a couple of days ago, on speakeasy forum.

I haven't yet read a piece that hits closer to the truth than this one.

[mugs99]

Yeah, it's right on!
Back in the sixties, the Birchers were warning that America was falling to communism. Everyone laughed at them... Everything they predicted has come true.