.......islam is the worship of a demented man who truly believed that sadistic excruciating pain was the deserved response to anyone who expressed any disagreement with his exalted Fantasies about himself.
Says it all.
Personally, I am an agnostic
I guess we all know where your headed.
Thanks for your post. I agree, but I think a more winnable approach is from whoever said:
"I don't care if you worship tomato sauce, just don't try to kill me in the name of holy produce."
So, Jesus is a) a liar, b) a megalomaniac, or c) the One True God - which makes Allah and his side-kick Mohammed a dead-end and a lie.
I issue this challenge to all Muslims. READ THE BIBLE. I have read their Koran and it is written that they (Muslims) should defer to people of the book (Christians and Jews). Most Muslims use the disjointed inconsistant and contradictory verses of the Koran for their own demented desires.
Half the folks on FR cannot conceive of criticizing religion, period. To these Freepers, belief in religion is the measure of a person's goodness, and perhaps of their sanity and their judgment too.
That's only a half-truth. When a "religion" promotes outlawed servitude of women, cruelty and murder in that religion's name, that "religion" is best regulated by laws even to its point of extinction.
Islam is a cult - islamites are a decieved lot.
This is an acute observation. When applied to Obama, I'm left with the pregnant question, "Where are his fruits of faith, when he claims he is Christian?" For this reason, I suspect he is much more adroit at duplicity and possibly even more Muslim than many suspect.
BTW, if you have doubts FReepers do not criticize religion, you may want to visit the Religion threads for a while. IMHO, the contrary is probably more frequently espoused.
WRT Islam, a very good argument may be made that the reason Islam is not true is that it focuses upon religion instead of upon how to have a relationship with God on His grounds.
There are many facets of Islam which mirror Christian religion, however those facets also reveal false religion. Religion isn't evil when practised through faith in Christ, but in and if itself, indpendent of God's inspiration, it becomes a clanging cymbal and unholy thinking.
The consequences of such religion are ultimately evil, even when the evironment might be actually peaceful amongst its practitioners, it is nevertheless parlayed into evil by the Adversary and ultimately good for nothingness.
If one focuses on physical violence as testimony of evil in Islam, one is missing the root of its evil and may be distracted from understanding the significance of a true belief in God through Christ.
Such a statement to an unbeliever appears as though one religion is judging another, therefore hypocritical, but that is a reasoning of the soul without understanding of what the regenerate human spirit means. The more primary issue is how humans are able to have a relationship with God. It boils down to a simple humility to Him, allowing His gift of faith to be received by the believer.
Once this happens truly, there is a very real life given to the believer which was never before possibly understood to the unbeliever.
In the Greek, the same word is used for belief and faith. That significant meaning is more primal than the English meanings of the respective words used in secular culture. Until one has a grasp of that meaning and lives by it in one's thinking, the significance of believing in God through faith in Christ as wholly and holy disecernible from all other counterfeit religions is not understood.
You said-"But both cases depend on the believer regarding the evidence by thinking with assent. Both cases depend upon a predisposition to believe. Probably because believers personally like what they perceive to be the result."
Non believers like you then are predisposed to not believe. That's right, we believe in predestination. Whether you change your beliefs in the future based on something not yet revealed to you is already known by your Father in heaven.
Remember, the One who is in us is stronger than the one who is in you.
The devil goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.
Even the devil believes, and he trembles.
I don't expect an answer from you as you have answered no other posts on this thread.
Praying for you, WMM
One thing I do understand about your post is your fustration.
The peace of knowing Gods Love through Jesus Christ would set you free from fear of Satan.
Mohammed is Satan.
Interesting. Could you please post your research, results and methodology?
I often see immigrant high school and college age Muslim ladies,
and wonder if they know what life will have in store for them,
sure in America, their relatively safe from Islamic fanatics,
Given a chance for liberty,
who would want Islamic law for their children?
Not Muslims around here,
they just haven't figured that out yet,
probally a serious lack of not seeing it in action.
The press would have you believe some want to live under Islamic laws,
like they want to be in a Burka under the desert heat,
wish they would show examples of the real oppression of it,
than Muslim immigrants would better understand
the real horrors of living under Islamic laws,
and the cruelty it will impose on them and their children.