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Baptist group fights Texas coal plants
AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/10/07 | Matt Curry - ap

Posted on 02/10/2007 8:59:23 PM PST by NormsRevenge

DALLAS - Texas' largest Baptist group is taking a rare step into environmental advocacy, working to block Gov. Rick Perry's plan to speed the approval process for 18 new coal-fired power plants.

The Christian Life Commission, the public policy arm of the Baptist General Convention of Texas, is mobilizing Baptists against the coal-fired plants and urging the convention's 2.3 million members to voice their opposition to state lawmakers.

"A lot of people felt like our industries, our policy leaders, are going to take care of these big issues like air quality, (and) it's not going to be something our local people are going to have to get up every day and worry about," said Suzii Paynter, director of the commission. "It can't be left to big interests to make these decisions in our behalf."

The Baptists stress that they are not jumping into full-blown activism, but even a small move toward environmentalism is significant.

"This is cutting edge stuff for Baptists — even moderate Baptists," said Bruce T. Gourley, associate director of The Center for Baptist Studies at Mercer University in Macon, Ga.

The commission's action follows a resolution approved by the convention in November affirming "that we advocate for sound environmental policies in the public square."

Their stance is not necessarily that of all, or even most, Baptists. The Baptist General Convention of Texas is a moderate congregation in a state where Baptists are mainly divided between traditionalists, who are closely tied to the national denomination and the moderates, who are far more independent.

The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the nation with more than 16 million members, adopted a resolution last summer denouncing environmental activism and warning that it was "threatening to become a wedge issue to divide the evangelical community."

Paynter said Texas Baptists' involvement stems from concern over how dirty air is affecting the health of church members.

TXU Corp.'s coal proposal is on a fast track under an executive order Perry issued last year to expand the production of electricity and lower its cost. The company says the plants will meet growing demand for power, boost the economy of small towns and reduce toxic emissions by replacing older plants.

Environmental organizations, a coalition of Texas cities and counties and a group of influential Dallas business executives are among the critics who contend the company is driven by profits and is rushing to beat more stringent federal restrictions on carbon dioxide emissions.

Many opponents of the coal plants will attend rallies at the state Capitol on Sunday and Monday. But Paynter said the Texas Baptists, while not opposing the demonstrations, will not be involved.

"I know environmentalists, they want to see a bunch of Christians marching on the Capitol," she said. "I don't really want to be seen as out there beating the drums to try to get people to the Capitol. We have a longer-term goal, which is about the stewardship of creation."

Gourley, of the Baptist center in Georgia, said Texas denominational leaders must be careful not to alienate Baptists in the pews. He said it is difficult to determine whether environmentalism will gain momentum among Baptists.

"I don't think it's an anomaly, but I really wonder if it's going to gain much traction any time soon," he said. "It would take a reorientation of how we Baptists understand our place in this world, and enlarging our whole definition of what salvation is."

Mary Darden, a Baptist deacon and president of Keep Waco Green, said the coal issue is rarely discussed at her church because members include power company employees. Sometimes people in her congregation, which is affiliated with the moderate Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, quietly offer support, but she said she wishes they would "come out of the closet and help."

"I do not believe God wants us to continue to pollute and cause the world to degenerate the way it is," Darden said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: baptist; coal; coalplants; energy; fights; liberalwing; texas

Suzii Paynter, director of the Texas Christian Life Commission, poses in Dallas, Tuesday, Feb. 6, 2007. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)


1 posted on 02/10/2007 8:59:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

We have a cleaner enviroment and higher standards than most countries.

She really should do her whining in India and China.


2 posted on 02/10/2007 9:02:36 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: NormsRevenge
Paynter said Texas Baptists' involvement stems from concern over how dirty air is affecting the health of church members.

Obviously clueless about coal-fired generation and emission standards.

3 posted on 02/10/2007 9:07:15 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

Folks should only preach about that of which they have some rudimentary knowledge, at least.


4 posted on 02/10/2007 9:10:44 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: NormsRevenge

So (certain) Baptists are okay if folks freeze. Got it. Now no whining when it happens.


5 posted on 02/10/2007 9:13:55 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: NormsRevenge

BGCT is the liberal side of the Southern Baptists. The conservatives are the SBT - Southern Baptists of Texas.


6 posted on 02/10/2007 9:14:14 PM PST by PAR35
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To: NormsRevenge
"The Baptist General Convention of Texas is a moderate congregation.."

Liberal organization

7 posted on 02/10/2007 9:14:50 PM PST by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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To: NormsRevenge

unbelievable that the Baptist Church in Texas of all places could be taken over by leftists.


8 posted on 02/10/2007 9:15:00 PM PST by balch3
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To: NormsRevenge
Suzii Paynter, director of the commission

Suzii? With two i's? Does she draw little hearts over them?

9 posted on 02/10/2007 9:18:09 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: DTogo

In the 70s, I started up coal fired plants in Chile and worked on them in China. No emissions controls AT ALL. Not even electrostatic precipitators to capture the flyash. Our plants are very clean with particulate, SO2, NOx, water and solid waste disposal controls. If she wants to see dirty, go look at China. I doubt they are installing basic controls, even today.


10 posted on 02/10/2007 9:19:35 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: balch3

The Southern Baptists split from the liberal Baptists due to the unbiblical stand the libs take. The libs are calling themselves mainstream Baptists. Each Southern Baptist church is independent, but cooperate in many ways.


11 posted on 02/10/2007 9:26:15 PM PST by Kent1957
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To: NormsRevenge

Fine.

Build nuclear power plants instead. I wonder how that would fare??


12 posted on 02/10/2007 9:30:21 PM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Indeed. It might do the TXU some PR good to be pro-active and maybe take a busload or two on a site visit to a TX plant, and maybe give a ppt presentation to the congregation on modern pollution controls. Otherwise they'll cluelessly continue to spout this enviro-whacko misinformation.


13 posted on 02/10/2007 9:35:58 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: flying Elvis

A dying liberal organization, to be exact.


14 posted on 02/10/2007 9:36:57 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: NormsRevenge

Mary Darden, a Baptist deacon and president of Keep Waco Green

Now that is really something, "Keep Waco Green" and Baptist Deaconess in the same sentence..

I find it strange that the article used the male form of a Church office even though a female is holding it.


15 posted on 02/10/2007 9:40:15 PM PST by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: NormsRevenge

This group of Baptists in Texas like to characterize themselves as moderates when, in fact, they are liberals in theology and earth issues!


16 posted on 02/10/2007 9:43:40 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: Doctor Don

I respect liberals more than I do moderates, for liberals are at the very least honest enough to own up to what they really are.


17 posted on 02/10/2007 9:48:10 PM PST by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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To: Kimmers
Here is the easy way to debunk/diffuse this 'controversy'. Go to the parking lot of one of these 'Baptist' churches involved in the this 'religious' coalition. Video all of the sports cars and SUVs which get crappy, crappy mileage and then ask this closeted lesbian 'Baptist' leader to comment on it. Ask which of the 'churches' she represented are using solar panels to get themselves 'off the grid' and slowing 'global warming.'

This is just feckless propaganda and as shallow as the soundbites which are issued to media flacks to slavishly report them as though they are important and worthy of discussion. There is nothing religious about this evironmental radicalism. Its just socialism wearing a frock or a habit.

18 posted on 02/10/2007 9:50:53 PM PST by bpjam (Never Give Up, Never Surrender (Unless James Baker gives you permission))
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Yes, continue to be beholden to the godless communists like Chavez and the heathen Islamic oil producers. Keep putting money into the hands of those who fund the attacks on Christians around the World.

America has 500 years worth of coal in the ground.
We should use it as an interim source to help break the oil cartels hold. "Not in my neighborhood' is a lame excuse when the power IS used in your neighborhood.


19 posted on 02/10/2007 10:11:03 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: NormsRevenge

If they want to protest the plants, they should take it all the way and demand that all 2.3 million of their members stop using electricity. That would more than remove the need for the extra plants.


20 posted on 02/10/2007 10:16:28 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: NormsRevenge

***Paynter said Texas Baptists' involvement stems from concern over how dirty air is affecting the health of church members. ***

Dirty Air? Come on lady. With Electrostatic precipitators and scrubbers to be built along with No2 controls there is some of the cleanest coal fired plants here in the US.

Thirty two years ago when the power plant was built in NW Arkansas the cry was the ash would cover every one and everything up! It has not. The plant area is very clean and there are even EAGLES that winter at the cooling lake near here.
In NE Oklahoma th GRDA plant was built next to a hunting area and fishing river. No problems from them either. The only problem was when PCBs were found in the river there about 25 years ago traced to a leaking capacitor on an AC unit in Pryor. It was cleaned up years ago.


21 posted on 02/10/2007 11:37:28 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: NormsRevenge
She'd give Helen Thomas a run for her money on the "wouldn't-hit-it-with-your-tool" scale.

BTW, this type of crap is why I have some disdain for organized religion. Pro-life? Pro-war? Anti-taxes? You can pretty much count on being relegated to starting your own congregation. OTOH, Socialist? Anti-death-penalty? Pacifist? In that case, we, organized religion, will aid and abet the DinoMedia in promoting leftist propaganda in guise of religion until the end of time.

22 posted on 02/11/2007 12:25:27 AM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good grief -- lefties taking over Baptist organizations.


23 posted on 02/11/2007 2:50:13 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: NormsRevenge

They are either liars or fools. The facts are that TXU's plan will increase their power generated by 50% while the TOTAL of harmful emissions will GO DOWN BY 20%. How can TXU possibly accomplish that? By building new, far cleaner coal plants that will replace and shut down some of the older, sootier plants, and upgrading other existing plants with cleaner technology and/or using more cleaner-burning WY coal instead of TX lignite.

All that is ALWAYS pointed out to these groups and the media, so if it is missing from the story then the writer either failed to get both sides or is a dishonest advocate of the leftist side.


24 posted on 02/11/2007 6:00:06 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Rudy Giuliani-Joe Dyton in '08!)
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To: balch3

"unbelievable that the Baptist Church in Texas of all places could be taken over by leftists."

The Methodists are even worse.


25 posted on 02/11/2007 7:18:50 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Kimmers
She really should spend more time trying to remove the pedophiles and their enablers that are in leadership positions in our Southern Baptist churches.
26 posted on 02/11/2007 7:24:49 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: DTogo
My grandfather died of dust pneumonia. He was a life long Texan.

The dirty air is cause by the blowing wind. I can still taste the grit in my mouth even tho I haven't lived in Texas for a long time.
27 posted on 02/11/2007 7:28:45 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: NormsRevenge

Praise the Lord and pass the candles!


28 posted on 02/11/2007 11:24:27 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Duncan Hunter: Hope of America)
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To: balch3

Sounds like the Gramscian Long March through our cultural insitutions continues on...


29 posted on 02/11/2007 11:26:29 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Duncan Hunter: Hope of America)
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To: NormsRevenge
We mustn't burn coal! We musn't have dependable power! Down with cheap electricity bills!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

30 posted on 02/11/2007 11:27:43 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; DTogo

If she wants to see dirty, go look at China. I doubt they are installing basic controls, even today.

Oh yes they do. The trick is that these emission control devices are installed, but they aren't switched on behind the backs of Western consultants or reps going there to investigate things.

31 posted on 02/16/2007 10:47:19 PM PST by NZerFromHK (The US Founding is what makes Britain and USA separated by much more than a common language.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Texas' largest Baptist group is taking a rare step into environmental advocacy"

Rare until now.
Watch for the Texas Christian Life Commission to start sticking it's nose into other political pies.


32 posted on 02/16/2007 11:57:34 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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