Posted on 02/11/2007 2:52:28 PM PST by don-o
PRINCETON, NJ -- As former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani inches closer to a formal declaration of his candidacy for the 2008 Republican nomination for president, the challenge he faces among Republicans with his support of abortion rights and same-sex civil unions is clear in a recent USA Today/Gallup Poll.
Giuliani is extraordinarily well-liked and respected by the American public. He also ties with or leads Arizona Sen. John McCain as the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination in recent Gallup polls. At the same time, his views on abortion and same-sex civil unions are unknown to most rank and file Republicans. Once informed of Giuliani's positions, a sizable minority of Republicans say they would reconsider their support for the otherwise popular and well-respected Republican luminary.
(Excerpt) Read more at galluppoll.com ...
I hope that's the case, but I also hope that doesn't default those would-be Rudy supporters over to McCain.
I lived in NYC before and through his term.
It was simply a different city. He has quite liberal views on issues I feel are so important, but the reality is he lowered abortions by making options available. It's hard to reconcile it, but he talks liberal and moves society to the right.
I'll never forget the time, after his wife threw him out of Gracie Mansion (!), how he moved in with a close friend and his 'partner'. He joked about the peaceful household on his weekly radio show... I don't look at what he says, but what he did.
But I won't sell out the living in America or the country of America so that I can declare as the last bomb falls that I stood up for my principles even as the America fell around me.
That said, once the Muslim extremists take over our country, abortion will be outlawed, so I guess I can go that way, too.
Liberals always ask "what would Jesus do?" then they do exactly the opposite...
What was that little passage that says "suffer the children" ???
If abortion clinics were mandated to ultrasound the baby and force the mother to see him/her kicking those tiny little legs and see the little heart beat at such an early gestation, maybe they would reconsider.
Don't tell me it's murder. I already know it is. Which is why I choose not to and my children hold those same values.
My daughter's dad is doing his best to make my life miserable for not murdering my daughter. I know I made the right choice. He is the one that can't see that, yet pretends to be a good Christian for the dog and pony show of life and it makes me sick.
If someone really wants an abortion, they should make an INFORMED choice. I think an ultrashound would suffice. After seeing for themselves, anyone that can go forward with an abortion has no heart and shouldn't be a parent. The abuse to a living child that is not wanted does more social damage than I can even begin to describe. Either way, the mother or father will go to hell.
There is no Islam without Mecca... and nobody has a clue...
Then I'd expect that you'd recognize it's the legitimate role of government to prohibit it from taking place. Yet for some reason you "cannot be the one to stand on the corner with a bible in hand and scream like I lost my mind".
Do you think it should be within government's purview to enforce any laws at all? If so, which? How do you decide which should be enforced and which should be left to God to judge?
Which part of Mark, Matthew, Luke or John put Jesus up on a soapbox and can you quote Jesus' venomous words?
I didn't think so.
Perhaps you could use a referesher in the book of Malachi. Or has it slipped your mind as to why God sent Jesus in the first place?
Here, let me help you get those books back into your bible.
His support for public funding of embrionic stem cell reaserch means, he's force citizen's that see it as immoral, to pay for it. They'd also have to pay for govm't funded abortions. In general, that is his way.
"Judge not, lest ye be judged."
I have no problem with being judged. Giuliani doesn't support freedom. Here's his take.
"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do and how you do it."
Rudy Giuliani
"While it may be "wrong" in the eyes of God to have an abortion or be gay, it is also wrong to do God's job and to judge, condemn and inflict personal values on another."
It's not God's job they're doing. It's their own. They have their reasons for doing things, just like the gun grabbers that support Giuliani do.
So, ritual murder before an idol of vanity on the altar of conceit is perfectly fine?
Indeed, in one recent poll, majorities of Republicans who were informed of Giuliani’s views on social issues said that they were either minor issues or no issues at all; only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views.
In the online GOP Bloggers poll, Giuliani is consistently one of the few candidates to end up with a net positive acceptability rating. These internet denizens are well-informed, and overwhelmingly self-describe as conservative (78% self-describe as 7 or higher on a 10-scale of conservatism). If these people can support Rudy, anyone can.
Human Events, Is Giuliani the Republican Peyton Manning,
2/6/07
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780060/posts
So, go ahead and kill them?
Bingo!
So we are quibbling about what percentage will not vote Rudy being informed of his views.
We have something they do not...
Unfortunately, ritual abuse to a live human or two or thousands isn't any better. Any ideas as to help the children that don't get aborted? Or how to help the parent that becomes a human tetherball that the child sees getting smacked around?
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