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Quit While You're Ahead, Rudy
The Evening Bulletin ^ | 02/12/2007 | Joe Murray

Posted on 02/12/2007 5:24:32 PM PST by NapkinUser

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To: Kirkwood

Seriously, all I've been seeing the past week has been thousands of anti-Rudy posts.



Well I guess some people need something to worry about. If you read all these threads here, Wudy has absolutely no chance in hell being elected to dog catcher in lower Manhattan today.

But then based upon the frantic scurrying and multiple postings of the charts, graphs, pictures he maybe the 2nd coming of satan....

In either case........ Cue Spooky Music


61 posted on 02/12/2007 6:16:33 PM PST by deport (.......Cue Spooky Music for the Rudy Ragers........)
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To: paulat

"He can't win. Too many conservatives (including me) would sit home if he were the nominee."

That's funny, the majority of conservatives I know would vote for Duncan Hunter if nominated or Rudy if nominated.

Oh, but maybe the conservatives that I know are really liberals, right?

Instead of making dumb threats, try working to get a guy like Duncan Hunter known by more than 3% of the population.

The "I won't vote" people make me puke.


62 posted on 02/12/2007 6:17:09 PM PST by Doninnj
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To: Tolkien

"Republicans don't get my vote by default. They have to earn it."

What can we promise you today?
I used to be pretty deeply into the Republican National Committee. Every quarter, they'd send me a questionaire asking me to rate my biggest concerns. I'd do that, and send the questionaire back to them. A few weeks later, I'd get a solicitation letter with promises targetted to the areas I'd shown the most concern over. It was brilliant. Too brilliant. I sent in a final donation and told them to piss off.


63 posted on 02/12/2007 6:18:08 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: dirtboy
Because Rudy will cause a repeat of 1992 if nominated.

It is ironic that his supporters tout his electability as his primary attribute when he is objectively the least electable of the current Republican field. Candidates rarely win general elections without their party's base. Far from a safe nominee, a Giuliani nomination would almost certainly result in a Democrat presidential victory.

65 posted on 02/12/2007 6:24:00 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: alarm rider
It's time we demanded an actual conservative to lead.

"Actual conservatives" are immediately branded "kooks" and "too extreme", not just by the MSM but also by most mainstream so-called conservatives. The cultural indoctrination has reached the point that almost all conservatives are cafeteria conservatives at best.
66 posted on 02/12/2007 6:25:24 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Kirkwood
>>>>Seriously, all I've been seeing the past week has been thousands of anti-Rudy posts. The only thing I can figure is that some conservatives here are frightened when there is no reason to be.

Right. Thousands of anti-Rudy posts, countering thousands of pro-Rudy posts. Its called free speech and political dissent. That's what we do around FR. Especially when conservatives are faced with a liberal Republican masquerading as the savior of the GOP, and trying to garner the party nomination in the process.

67 posted on 02/12/2007 6:25:50 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: gcruse
When I'd get calls from the RNC, the guy or gal on the other end would always tell me they thought like me but we must insure that, (fill in the blank) must not get into office.

It was just a con. The GOP is becoming the DNC quickly.

68 posted on 02/12/2007 6:26:47 PM PST by Tolkien (There are things more important than Peace. Freedom being one of those.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Far from a safe nominee, a Giuliani nomination would almost certainly result in a Democrat presidential victory.

You can be assured that if that occurs, the same people now supporting Giuliani will blame his loss on the "one issue extremists" within the GOP. Sadly, they lack the introspection to see the results of their views.

69 posted on 02/12/2007 6:29:06 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

"Candidates rarely win general elections without their party's base."

Rudy would get the overwhelming majority of Republican votes, the majority of independents and a good portion of Democrat votes.

We'll see if he gets nominated.

It would be nice if a candidate came along that could unite us, but it doesn't look too promising.


70 posted on 02/12/2007 6:30:18 PM PST by Doninnj
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To: jla

"Know what's ironic? Folks will discount Duncan Hunter with the, (fallacious), argument that a 'congressman won't win the Presidency'. They forget to then tell us when the last time a mayor did so."

That's what I'm always saying.

Today I heard a caller call Rush's show, praising Duncan Hunter. I hear this all the time. I think we might be in for a pleasant surprise.


71 posted on 02/12/2007 6:30:38 PM PST by Sun (Let your New Year's resolution be to vote for conservatives in the primaries! Happy 2007!)
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To: Dreagon

"He can't win. Too many conservatives (including me) would sit home if he were the nominee. We will not accept a liberal nominee. End of story."

Oh, much better to accept Hillary?


72 posted on 02/12/2007 6:40:28 PM PST by Aria
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To: jla
They forget to then tell us when the last time a mayor did so.

The last President who was a Mayor was Calvin Coolidge.

The last house member was George Bush Sr.

The last President who was a ...

Radio Announcer (1): Ronald Reagan

Divorced (1): Ronald Reagan

Actor (1): Ronald Reagan

Circus Roustabout (1): Ronald Reagan

Coach (1): Ronald Reagan

Lifeguard (1): Ronald Reagan

Construction Worker (1): Ronald Reagan

Born in Illinois (1): Ronald Reagan

Belonging to "Disciples of Christ" (3): Reagan, Garfield, Lyndon Johnson

Dishwasher (3): Reagan, Lyndon Johnson, Ford.

It is not so much where you come from, but what you stand for. I will vote for any Republican over any Democrat, with the exception of McCain ( I will go third party before I will vote for him). I also have a problem with Mormons ( I consider it a cult.)

73 posted on 02/12/2007 6:41:57 PM PST by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: Aria

"He can't win. Too many conservatives (including me) would sit home if he were the nominee. We will not accept a liberal nominee. End of story."

Oh, much better to accept Hillary?



That's funny, I know a heck of alot of conservatives who think "staying home" is probably the dumbest thing anyone could do.

Maybe he actually wants President Shillary.

Now that's a real conservative plan isn't it?


74 posted on 02/12/2007 6:46:09 PM PST by Doninnj
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To: Kirkwood; PhiKapMom
Seriously, all I've been seeing the past week has been thousands of anti-Rudy posts. The only thing I can figure is that some conservatives here are frightened when there is no reason to be.

What you are seeing are thousands of posts from conservatives who are discussing the views of one possible Republican Presidential nominee. We come to this conservative forum to discuss all things that are of concern or interest to conservatives.

You can construe these posts to be anti-Rudy, but I think the majority of them are just an assessment or discussion of Guiliani's views on the issues. Are you frightened that we are having discussions about Guiliani's views in forum threads?

75 posted on 02/12/2007 6:48:15 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Doninnj

Staying home and not voting is everything a Conservative is against! Makes me wonder what type of conservative would stay home and not vote. I have held my nose more than once but I never would think of staying home and not voting in any election.


76 posted on 02/12/2007 6:50:36 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Elyse

So what is conservative about a lot of things that are posted on here? If you are afraid to read articles about Rudy, then ignore them. He is going to be a Republican candidate. Obama and Hillary have tons of stories on here, and they are certainly not conservative.

Trying to stifle debate is not Conservative and wanting everyone to march in lockstep is also not Conservative.

There are many areas that Rudy is conservative like the WOT, smaller government, less taxes, law and order, strict constructionists judges, supply sided economics, etc.

Hate to break the news to you but to be conservative you don't have to be a social conservative. We have a lot of fiscal conservatives in the Republican Party and the Contract with America said nothing about social issues which a lot of us who are Conservative believe they belong at the state level not the federal level.


77 posted on 02/12/2007 6:55:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: PhiKapMom

"Makes me wonder what type of conservative would stay home and not vote."

Especially at this time when we face the greatest threat to our Republic since WWII.

How any intelligent conservative could stay home or throw their vote away is beyond me.


78 posted on 02/12/2007 7:03:07 PM PST by Doninnj
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To: Elyse
"Are you frightened that we are having discussions about Guiliani's views in forum threads?"

Heh! Of course not! I just think some people here are totally freaking out. It has gone beyond debate to ridiculous fear-mongering and party-splitting. Some of these critics are coming off poorly and their message is getting lost in their emotional rhetoric.

From everything I've seen and read, Rudy is not supporting party-splitting. It is a vocal fringe element that is advocating a split. For me, I'm interested in all candidates and will support the party selection no matter how much I disagree philosophically with that person. I will not support a democrat by withholding my Republican vote.
79 posted on 02/12/2007 7:05:33 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: All
I disagree with many of Rudy's social liberal stances,
but Rudy maybe the only republican candidate who can
win in '08.

Gingrich would be my first choice, but that just hoping
and not necessarily getting.

If it came right down to it, who would you prefer in the
Oval Office: Hillary/Obama or Rudy?

The above article is foolish for comparing Rudy to Sinatra.
Sinatra owed his fame and livelihood to the Mob, while
Rudy won his fame and livelihood busting up the Mob....JJ61
80 posted on 02/12/2007 7:07:56 PM PST by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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