Posted on 02/22/2007 9:19:23 PM PST by Bokababe
Political self determination only applies to the legitimate owners of the land. Kosovo is majority muslim today only because muslims forcefully invaded it in the 1400's, and have been forcefully driving out its original Serb inhabitants ever since with no compensation for their stolen lands. This invasion has escalated dramatically since 1941 when Kosovar muslims enlisted the assistance of Hitler to drive the remaining Serbs out by force. They left by the hundreds of thousands, and tens of thousands of those who didn't leave were sent to concentration camps or executed on site.
Texas was a virtually uninhabited Mexican province when the Americans showed up. Prior to the 1820's its ONLY organized settlements were a cluster of pirate hangouts on the gulf coast and a couple tiny ex-mission towns inhabited by old Spanish landowner families. The majority of those Spaniards sided with the Americans during revolution.
The Hispanic residents of Texas today (as well as those in California and New Mexico and Arizona) are mostly immigrants from places like Yucatan and Chiapas or even Central and South America. They have no more of "indigenous" claim on Texas than the Eskimos do.
The actual indigenous people of the American southwest are the Indian tribes such as the Comanches, Apaches, Pueblos, Coushattas etc. all have reservations in these states today or are mixed among the Anglo inhabitants. Virtually none of them speak Spanish and none any direct relationship to the Mexican illegals that are flooding into the region today.
Santa Anna's Mexican army, just like most of the illegal immigrants today, was composed of people from hundreds and even thousands of miles away who had absolutely no ancestral connection to Texas. The only true "indigenous" inhabitants of Texas were all North American Indian tribes like the Comanches that are still around today, and none of them speak Spanish.
So the Colonies weren't built on land that was historically inhabited by Indians? You really need to think these things through. The Founders also certainly had eyes on continuing the spread West, irrespective of who lived there 'historically'.
Political self determination only applies to the legitimate owners of the land. Kosovo is majority muslim today only because muslims forcefully invaded it in the 1400's, and have been forcefully driving out its original Serb inhabitants ever since with no compensation for their stolen lands.
The Indian analogy becomes more fitting all the time, doesn't it? Unless you want to contend that the original European invaders (since the 1500's) of the Americas were atheists that didn't drive the Indians west, breaking treaty after treaty in the process. Should only the native peoples of the Americas have political self determination on this continent, since the European invaders only came a few centuries ago?
The actual indigenous people of the American southwest are the Indian tribes such as the Comanches, Apaches, Pueblos, Coushattas etc. all have reservations in these states today or are mixed among the Anglo inhabitants.
So, is the equitable solution having the Kosovar muslims create some reservations on the parts of Kosovo they don't want (today) and herding the Serbs there? Would that strike you as ok?
Personally, I think Clinton's war against Serbia, lacking Congressional authority and exceeding the statutory 'emergency' time period of the War Powers Resolution was the primary reason he should have been impeached. Sadly, the Republicans had no spine and did not force him to stop. I care as much about the refugee situation in Kosovo as I do Darfur, which is to say - zero. If you want to help the Serbs take on the Kosovar muslims, well Johnny get yer gun and go do it. Form an Abraham Lincoln Brigade of like-minded friends and do what you think is best. Just for god's sake don't drag the American taxpayer and soldier into, because it has zero to do with protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States.
Even at their peak, the North American Indians were a very diffuse and largely nomadic population. Their descendants are still around today. None of them speak Spanish though, and few if any are seriously clamouring for independence.
Should only the native peoples of the Americas have political self determination on this continent, since the European invaders only came a few centuries ago?
First off, most reservations today enjoy a degree of self determining autonomy. Second, most of them enjoy a beneficial economic relationship with the states they're located in through tourism. Third, few if any are trying to obtain independence beyond that. The Kosovo analogy fails.
So, is the equitable solution having the Kosovar muslims create some reservations on the parts of Kosovo they don't want (today) and herding the Serbs there?
First, the muslims want all of Kosovo plus a chunk of the surrounding territory. Second, they tend to want all Serbs dead or forcefully converted to islam. That makes any plan that involves cohabitation impossible. Since the muslims obtained most of the territory they have now with the direct assistance of evil men like Hitler, I'd prefer that any solution to the land ownership solution to the problem didn't attempt to sustain the Nazi-drawn borders of the Balkans. Nor should it give assistance to the jihadis, whose expansionist designs and land grabs were being held in relative check in the 50-something years between Hitler's departure and Clinton's arrival.
In other words, the U.S. shouldn't be taking sides with the Kosovars in this one. At that includes allowing the Serbs to fight back against the terrorist jihadis.
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