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Gun Remark Kills Outdoorsman's Career (WP)
The Washington Post ^ | 24 FEB 07 | Blaine Harden

Posted on 02/24/2007 5:18:52 PM PST by xsrdx

SEATTLE - Modern hunters rarely become more famous than Jim Zumbo. A mustachioed, barrel-chested outdoors entrepreneur who lives in a log cabin near Yellowstone National Park, he has spent much of his life writing for prominent outdoors magazines, delivering lectures across the country and starring in cable TV shows about big-game hunting in the West.

Zumbo's fame, however, has turned to black-bordered infamy within America's gun culture -- and his multimedia success has come undone. It all happened in the past week, after he publicly criticized the use of military-style assault rifles by hunters, especially those gunning for prairie dogs.

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To: Krankor

Correcting your ignorance is not a sport either.


51 posted on 02/24/2007 6:05:09 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: Spirochete
At the time of the first AWB, in 1994:

I thought the first AWB was around 1974.

52 posted on 02/24/2007 6:05:16 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: xsrdx
Shot across Congress’ bow

In announcing that it was suspending its professional ties with Zumbo, the NRA -- a well-financed gun lobby that for decades has fought attempts to regulate assault weapons -- noted that the new Congress should pay careful attention to the outdoors writer's fate.

"Our folks fully understand that their rights are at stake," the NRA statement said. It warned that the "grassroots" passion that brought down Zumbo shows that millions of people would "resist with an immense singular political will any attempts to create a new ban on semi-automatic firearms."

The day of reckoning for The Rudy and McStain is nearing.

The NRA and GOA are coldly awaiting their moment. And it will be bloody.
53 posted on 02/24/2007 6:05:37 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Krankor
I'm an NRA member and a Republican. I've been both for at least 25 years, cumulative.

The NRA has always been the stupid wing of the stupid party.

54 posted on 02/24/2007 6:06:35 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Krankor

What do you know of either guns or prairie dog hunting?


55 posted on 02/24/2007 6:07:52 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of RINOs.)
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To: Terriergal

LOL


56 posted on 02/24/2007 6:08:13 PM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: xsrdx
"As hunters, we don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them. . . . I'll go so far as to call them 'terrorist' rifles."

Zumbo just found out the hard way that around here you don't bad mouth a man's rifle or his pick up truck, and, by the way, you need to be somewhat careful what you say about his wife too.

57 posted on 02/24/2007 6:08:19 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: sit-rep

And this is Ted Nugent's post to the people coming down on Zumbo at Nugents Blog...
...if you don't accept his apology, get the hell away from my campfire..."

A sad day it is...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Great Catch,,,
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DEER TED,,,Done !!...

Dumbo~Zumbo shot himself in the foot and got his Butt
"Nailed To The Barn" for his remarks...

GIT~SOME !!!

Breath~N~Squeeze...;0)


58 posted on 02/24/2007 6:08:26 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Russ
"it amazes me how vicious we on the right become when someone steps off the reservation for even one split second."

We've seen what being "reasonable" gets you.

When the anti-smoking thing started up the smokers we're told "hey, all we want is a small part of the plane where you can't smoke". Oh gee, everybody thought that was reasonable. And it was. 15-20 years later entire cities have banned smoking and some states are looking to follow.

In a perfect world Zumbo's punishment would have been less than what he got. But the crap he spewed is what the banner live for and will use without mercy. And once the banners get going, reason goes right out the Fing window.
59 posted on 02/24/2007 6:09:27 PM PST by Poison Pill
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To: Russ; Thumper1960
What Zumbo said was stupid and wrong but it amazes me how vicious we on the right become when someone steps off the reservation for even one split second. We attack like a pack of jackels and that person is, from that point on, dead to us. Zumbo isn't the only one this has happened to, just the latest.

With respect, Russ, that is absolute nonsense.

Zumbo didn't just "step off the reservation for even one split second" and then try to get back on. He arrogantly proclaimed that HE was in charge of the reservation and told a huge segment of the law-abiding gun owners of America that they were the ones who didn't know where they were nor what they were talking about. His so-called apology did not in any way address this issue. Worse than that, he stupidly gave enormous "aid and comfort" to the mortal enemies of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

60 posted on 02/24/2007 6:10:14 PM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: Russ
...when someone steps off the reservation for even one split second.

He didn't just "step off the reservation".

He committed a treasonous act, exacerbated by the the fact that he is was a well-known and respected firearms and hunting expert.

Emphasis on firearms.

He was a spokesperson for many manufacturers intimately associated with 2d Amendment issues.

His words will provide fodder for the Brady Bunch for a long time, his "apology" notwithstanding.

He deserved what he got.

61 posted on 02/24/2007 6:10:18 PM PST by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

The first amendment gives you the freedom to speak your mind.
It does not give you the freedom from the repercussions of what you say.


62 posted on 02/24/2007 6:10:45 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: Russ

For a split second? I beg to differ. This division has been going on since the early clinton days. The fuds have been voting dem party while thinking no one would dare take their guns. That's been changed since the dems just took the congress and the senate. Now the anti's are going after .22's and shotguns along with semiautomatics.

If he had apologized with a true meaning it might have meant something. He still thinks as long as a gun is used for hunting somehow it will be safe from confiscation. He's wrong. The anti's are going for ALL OF THEM and this individual is helping.

The strange thing is firearms will be needed for self defense long after the last hunting reserve is paved over.


63 posted on 02/24/2007 6:10:45 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: flashbunny
The first amendment gives you the freedom to speak your mind. It does not give you the freedom from the repercussions of what you say.

I reiterate..."Aren't you glad that the 1st Amendment is understood here on FR and people are zealous in it's defense? Maybe the clarity of 2A defenders is justified..."
64 posted on 02/24/2007 6:13:55 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of RINOs.)
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To: xsrdx
If I can only afford one rifle, my choice will be one that is effective (and intimidating-looking) for defense. If some elitist snob wants me to use something else for hunting -- let him, then, give me his choice of "pretty gun" as a gift.

He has absoluutely no say in what tools I choose to spend my hard-earned $$$ on -- nor where or for what lawful purposes I elect to use them.

65 posted on 02/24/2007 6:13:57 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: tarheelswamprat
I would not be surprised to hear, in a few weeks, after the immediate hoopla has died down, that Zumbo has been hired as an advisor/writer for a publication with anti-gun ties, which will then use him as a propaganda-front as exemplifying "the true face of reasonable gun owners" or some such.

The new spokesman for the Brady Bunch. Seriously.
66 posted on 02/24/2007 6:14:20 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: xsrdx

Why do people seem to be down on "select-fire" weapons here? The 2nd amendment prohibits the federal government from making laws relating to arms - period. It should be between me and the dealer if I want to go to a store and trade some cash for a piece of artillery. The government should not be involved. ALL federal laws restricting weapons ownership are immoral, illegal and should be repealed, as should any and all state laws.


67 posted on 02/24/2007 6:15:55 PM PST by MichiganConservative (Your government is your freedom's biggest enemy.)
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To: All

All of you made alot of good points that made alot of sense. Thanks for all the input and rebuttals to my comments.


68 posted on 02/24/2007 6:16:07 PM PST by Russ
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I guess I've seen to many here sarcastically say something similar, as though the first amendment offers immunity from the reactions of others.


69 posted on 02/24/2007 6:16:50 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: billorites

You are the "stupid" fringe on FR. I assume you mean they are stupid because they are extreme, although I don't know how limited your vocabulary is because stupid is a elementary word mostly spoken by adults who do not know how to explain how they feel. Let's say the NRA is "extreme" for arguments sake. I like having an extreme element to balance out the leftist extremists. What is your excuse? Also, I always suspect someone who has to state their credentials before they make a point.


70 posted on 02/24/2007 6:17:28 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: AnAmericanMother
an assault weapon is a small-caliber, select fire lightweight rifle for use by paratroopers/special forces

Just to nitpick, that's 40 years out of date. Regular infantry has been issued assault rifles for decades. It hasn't been limited to special forces since Korea.

71 posted on 02/24/2007 6:19:49 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: xsrdx

bump it for later


72 posted on 02/24/2007 6:21:01 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: flashbunny

Nothing wrong with being quick on the draw as long as you know where your rounds are going. Of course, since I am not a Muslim, the literal intent was rhetorical. I wrote that line to provoke outrage because the defense of one right is inseparable from the other. Sometimes clarity is a slap in the face.


73 posted on 02/24/2007 6:21:57 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of RINOs.)
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As far as Zumbo goes,he has learned that you are either for or against the second amendment. No in-betweens here. A lot of his readers felt betrayed by his stupid,liberal comments.

Maybe Ted Nugent and Zumbo can swap stories around the camp fire about the public that can make or brake you.
74 posted on 02/24/2007 6:22:22 PM PST by 4yearlurker ("Nothing is true,and everything is permitted"--7 th Satanic vow. Sounds like Liberalism!)
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To: Russ; Thumper1960

Sarah Brady already has his quotes on her website, so get informed before you spew ignorance. The enemy has embraced his quotes and are now using them against us. That is not "stepping off the reservation", that is giving ais to the enemy, numbnuts'. Also, using the word reservation is considered racist these days, so get a clue and go hug your poodles, and clean off your Ikea furniture.


75 posted on 02/24/2007 6:22:36 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: billorites
I'm an American, a Conservative, an NRA member and a gun owner. I'm also a "Republican" and have a cumulative of well over 100 years for all.

I know a RINO and a "cafeteria Conservative" when I see one.

76 posted on 02/24/2007 6:22:41 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Krankor

When Ya' use the Bayonet...


77 posted on 02/24/2007 6:24:11 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Russ
This is Free Republic. It's called, "conservative activism".

Try it sometime...

78 posted on 02/24/2007 6:24:31 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: George W. Bush
The new spokesman for the Brady Bunch. Seriously.

I agree, that is what I was implying. However, they might try to be a little more subtle and finesse things. How about a lucrative position as "Shooting Sports Editor" for the Sierra Club. Probably not, though! The statists think they're in the home stretch and likely aren't interested in subtlety. /grin

79 posted on 02/24/2007 6:24:34 PM PST by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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To: 4yearlurker

Brake=break.


80 posted on 02/24/2007 6:25:14 PM PST by 4yearlurker ("Nothing is true,and everything is permitted"--7 th Satanic vow. Sounds like Liberalism!)
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To: Krankor

Well the .222 Rem, which was developed as a varmit caliber became the .223 which was chosen as the military standard of the "assult rifle" AR15. what has always amazed me is, we shoot humans with woodchuck rounds.
barbra ann


81 posted on 02/24/2007 6:26:07 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: Melas; AnAmericanMother
Just to nitpick, that's 40 years out of date. Regular infantry has been issued assault rifles for decades.

To nitpick even further:

"Assault weapon" is a propaganda term, used by anti-gunners to demonize virtually any firearm with a detachable magazine.

RE: H.R. 1022: To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes

"Assault rifle" is a selective-fire weapon, the term coming from the German "Sturmgewehr".

The terms "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are not interchangeable.

:o)

82 posted on 02/24/2007 6:27:14 PM PST by holymoly (Molon Labe)
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To: freeplancer
Of course the enemy will use Zumbo's words.

Loose lips sink ships, and all.

Zumbo is an idiot because his position lent weight to his idiotic commentary. Zumbo gave an enemy a weapon to attack the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. IMNSHO, that borders on treason.

83 posted on 02/24/2007 6:28:21 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: Russ

"What Zumbo said was stupid and wrong but it amazes me how vicious we on the right become when someone steps off the reservation for even one split second."

If he hadn't used the word terrorist it might be different. I for one am very offended when anyone compares me to a terrorist. Doesn't matter if they are doing it because I'm Christian or because I own an "assault" weapon.


84 posted on 02/24/2007 6:33:34 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: martin_fierro
Al Franken's signature is on the papers by which AirAmerica ripped off a childrens' charity -- and now he's running for public office.

Further proof that he can't hold a real job.

85 posted on 02/24/2007 6:36:39 PM PST by uglybiker (AU-TO-MO-BEEEEEEEL?!!)
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To: freeplancer
"The enemy has embraced his quotes and are now using them against us."

Yes, the left has found another "useful idiot" to use against our Second Amendment Rights.

86 posted on 02/24/2007 6:36:44 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: All

This thread is seriously missing some pictures.


87 posted on 02/24/2007 6:37:32 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: WorkingClassFilth
I concur. There is no compromise on the right to keep and bear arms, irrespective of whether it is a BB gun or 50 cal...go hunting with a BB gun for all it matters - that's your choice. To attack the caliber is stupid.
88 posted on 02/24/2007 6:38:55 PM PST by majormaturity
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To: driftdiver

How's this: http://www.cuteonly.com/i/splash_lady1_smaller.jpg ?


89 posted on 02/24/2007 6:41:55 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of RINOs.)
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To: driftdiver
This thread is seriously missing some pictures.

Here you go. ;o)


90 posted on 02/24/2007 6:43:06 PM PST by holymoly (Molon Labe)
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To: tarheelswamprat
If he lets things die down for a few years, he might still salvage his career. I think that S&W survived their mistakes and came back even though people like me have taken the vow and would only S&W if that was the only weapon available. Or he could write a few books on how evil "assault weapons" are and sell lots of those to the Brady Bunch as a "victim" of the Evil Gun Lobby.

OTOH, he can probably do well enough just guiding hunts for the mega-rich around Jackson Hole.
91 posted on 02/24/2007 6:44:28 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: driftdiver
"This thread is seriously missing some pictures."

OK, how's this?

92 posted on 02/24/2007 6:45:49 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: xsrdx

For all intents and purposes the 2nd Amendment today is about hunting weapons. Not sure when it happened, but firearms of the type we could actually use to overthrow our government are no longer legal in a practical sense unless you're very rich.


93 posted on 02/24/2007 6:47:11 PM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: driftdiver
This thread is seriously missing some pictures.

Some gun porn for you, then... :-)

94 posted on 02/24/2007 6:49:18 PM PST by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: holymoly

Agreed, which is why I used assault rifle and not assault weapon. I think a butter knife could would qualify as the latter if used in an assault.


95 posted on 02/24/2007 6:49:44 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Cute but I was looking for something more like this
96 posted on 02/24/2007 6:49:54 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Jonah Hex

ahhh now there's a thing of beauty.


97 posted on 02/24/2007 6:51:45 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: holymoly

By the way, that was quick work and quite appropiate too.


98 posted on 02/24/2007 6:53:31 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Eagles6

"Mr. Zumbo and msnbc seem to be under the delusion, as many of the unwashed masses are, that the 2nd Amendment is about hunting."

Please don't give anyone in politics or the MSM that benifit of the doubt anymore.
They know full well what the Second Amendment is about.

They just don't like it.

Maybe Zumbo really is just 1/2 bob off plumb. In that case perhaps he should take the next 6 months time to write a nice little book on what the Second Amendment really is about... then if he gets it right (not that hard), ok, he was just another dumb bunny who made a mistake..(I find it pretty hard to believe myself as even I try to re read and think about what I post.)

My feeling however is having betrayed the Second Amendment and his readers he has already decided to go over to the Dark Side in seach of 13 pieces of silver.

Redemption?

I suggest he;

1. Accept the heat and well deserved opprobrium.
2. Take the time to truly educate himself on the subject. 3. Demonstrate in a detailed writing what the Second Amendment is really about and tell us what he now believes.

Or forever be just another Judas, or Ephalates

So Mr. Zumbo it is "gut check time" for you...

W


99 posted on 02/24/2007 6:53:50 PM PST by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: Thumper1960

"That his fatigue would allow his subconscious to put into words what he had in his head reveals much of the man."

The real man finally came out.


100 posted on 02/24/2007 6:53:56 PM PST by jwh_Denver ("Planet of the Apes" happened because people wouldn't proof read their posts.)
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