Skip to comments.Gun Remark Kills Outdoorsman's Career (WP)
Posted on 02/24/2007 5:18:52 PM PST by xsrdx
SEATTLE - Modern hunters rarely become more famous than Jim Zumbo. A mustachioed, barrel-chested outdoors entrepreneur who lives in a log cabin near Yellowstone National Park, he has spent much of his life writing for prominent outdoors magazines, delivering lectures across the country and starring in cable TV shows about big-game hunting in the West.
Zumbo's fame, however, has turned to black-bordered infamy within America's gun culture -- and his multimedia success has come undone. It all happened in the past week, after he publicly criticized the use of military-style assault rifles by hunters, especially those gunning for prairie dogs.
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Correcting your ignorance is not a sport either.
I thought the first AWB was around 1974.
Shot across Congress bowThe day of reckoning for The Rudy and McStain is nearing.
In announcing that it was suspending its professional ties with Zumbo, the NRA -- a well-financed gun lobby that for decades has fought attempts to regulate assault weapons -- noted that the new Congress should pay careful attention to the outdoors writer's fate.
"Our folks fully understand that their rights are at stake," the NRA statement said. It warned that the "grassroots" passion that brought down Zumbo shows that millions of people would "resist with an immense singular political will any attempts to create a new ban on semi-automatic firearms."
The NRA has always been the stupid wing of the stupid party.
What do you know of either guns or prairie dog hunting?
Zumbo just found out the hard way that around here you don't bad mouth a man's rifle or his pick up truck, and, by the way, you need to be somewhat careful what you say about his wife too.
And this is Ted Nugent's post to the people coming down on Zumbo at Nugents Blog...
...if you don't accept his apology, get the hell away from my campfire..."
A sad day it is...
DEER TED,,,Done !!...
Dumbo~Zumbo shot himself in the foot and got his Butt
"Nailed To The Barn" for his remarks...
With respect, Russ, that is absolute nonsense.
Zumbo didn't just "step off the reservation for even one split second" and then try to get back on. He arrogantly proclaimed that HE was in charge of the reservation and told a huge segment of the law-abiding gun owners of America that they were the ones who didn't know where they were nor what they were talking about. His so-called apology did not in any way address this issue. Worse than that, he stupidly gave enormous "aid and comfort" to the mortal enemies of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
He didn't just "step off the reservation".
He committed a treasonous act, exacerbated by the the fact that he
is was a well-known and respected firearms and hunting expert.
Emphasis on firearms.
He was a spokesperson for many manufacturers intimately associated with 2d Amendment issues.
His words will provide fodder for the Brady Bunch for a long time, his "apology" notwithstanding.
He deserved what he got.
The first amendment gives you the freedom to speak your mind.
It does not give you the freedom from the repercussions of what you say.
For a split second? I beg to differ. This division has been going on since the early clinton days. The fuds have been voting dem party while thinking no one would dare take their guns. That's been changed since the dems just took the congress and the senate. Now the anti's are going after .22's and shotguns along with semiautomatics.
If he had apologized with a true meaning it might have meant something. He still thinks as long as a gun is used for hunting somehow it will be safe from confiscation. He's wrong. The anti's are going for ALL OF THEM and this individual is helping.
The strange thing is firearms will be needed for self defense long after the last hunting reserve is paved over.
He has absoluutely no say in what tools I choose to spend my hard-earned $$$ on -- nor where or for what lawful purposes I elect to use them.
Why do people seem to be down on "select-fire" weapons here? The 2nd amendment prohibits the federal government from making laws relating to arms - period. It should be between me and the dealer if I want to go to a store and trade some cash for a piece of artillery. The government should not be involved. ALL federal laws restricting weapons ownership are immoral, illegal and should be repealed, as should any and all state laws.
All of you made alot of good points that made alot of sense. Thanks for all the input and rebuttals to my comments.
I guess I've seen to many here sarcastically say something similar, as though the first amendment offers immunity from the reactions of others.
You are the "stupid" fringe on FR. I assume you mean they are stupid because they are extreme, although I don't know how limited your vocabulary is because stupid is a elementary word mostly spoken by adults who do not know how to explain how they feel. Let's say the NRA is "extreme" for arguments sake. I like having an extreme element to balance out the leftist extremists. What is your excuse? Also, I always suspect someone who has to state their credentials before they make a point.
Just to nitpick, that's 40 years out of date. Regular infantry has been issued assault rifles for decades. It hasn't been limited to special forces since Korea.
bump it for later
Nothing wrong with being quick on the draw as long as you know where your rounds are going. Of course, since I am not a Muslim, the literal intent was rhetorical. I wrote that line to provoke outrage because the defense of one right is inseparable from the other. Sometimes clarity is a slap in the face.
Sarah Brady already has his quotes on her website, so get informed before you spew ignorance. The enemy has embraced his quotes and are now using them against us. That is not "stepping off the reservation", that is giving ais to the enemy, numbnuts'. Also, using the word reservation is considered racist these days, so get a clue and go hug your poodles, and clean off your Ikea furniture.
I know a RINO and a "cafeteria Conservative" when I see one.
When Ya' use the Bayonet...
Try it sometime...
I agree, that is what I was implying. However, they might try to be a little more subtle and finesse things. How about a lucrative position as "Shooting Sports Editor" for the Sierra Club. Probably not, though! The statists think they're in the home stretch and likely aren't interested in subtlety. /grin
Well the .222 Rem, which was developed as a varmit caliber became the .223 which was chosen as the military standard of the "assult rifle" AR15. what has always amazed me is, we shoot humans with woodchuck rounds.
To nitpick even further:
"Assault weapon" is a propaganda term, used by anti-gunners to demonize virtually any firearm with a detachable magazine.
"Assault rifle" is a selective-fire weapon, the term coming from the German "Sturmgewehr".
The terms "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are not interchangeable.
Loose lips sink ships, and all.
Zumbo is an idiot because his position lent weight to his idiotic commentary. Zumbo gave an enemy a weapon to attack the Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. IMNSHO, that borders on treason.
"What Zumbo said was stupid and wrong but it amazes me how vicious we on the right become when someone steps off the reservation for even one split second."
If he hadn't used the word terrorist it might be different. I for one am very offended when anyone compares me to a terrorist. Doesn't matter if they are doing it because I'm Christian or because I own an "assault" weapon.
Further proof that he can't hold a real job.
Yes, the left has found another "useful idiot" to use against our Second Amendment Rights.
This thread is seriously missing some pictures.
How's this: http://www.cuteonly.com/i/splash_lady1_smaller.jpg ?
Here you go. ;o)
OK, how's this?
For all intents and purposes the 2nd Amendment today is about hunting weapons. Not sure when it happened, but firearms of the type we could actually use to overthrow our government are no longer legal in a practical sense unless you're very rich.
Some gun porn for you, then... :-)
Agreed, which is why I used assault rifle and not assault weapon. I think a butter knife could would qualify as the latter if used in an assault.
ahhh now there's a thing of beauty.
By the way, that was quick work and quite appropiate too.
"Mr. Zumbo and msnbc seem to be under the delusion, as many of the unwashed masses are, that the 2nd Amendment is about hunting."
Please don't give anyone in politics or the MSM that benifit of the doubt anymore.
They know full well what the Second Amendment is about.
They just don't like it.
Maybe Zumbo really is just 1/2 bob off plumb. In that case perhaps he should take the next 6 months time to write a nice little book on what the Second Amendment really is about... then if he gets it right (not that hard), ok, he was just another dumb bunny who made a mistake..(I find it pretty hard to believe myself as even I try to re read and think about what I post.)
My feeling however is having betrayed the Second Amendment and his readers he has already decided to go over to the Dark Side in seach of 13 pieces of silver.
I suggest he;
1. Accept the heat and well deserved opprobrium.
2. Take the time to truly educate himself on the subject. 3. Demonstrate in a detailed writing what the Second Amendment is really about and tell us what he now believes.
Or forever be just another Judas, or Ephalates
So Mr. Zumbo it is "gut check time" for you...
"That his fatigue would allow his subconscious to put into words what he had in his head reveals much of the man."
The real man finally came out.