Skip to comments.Sinking Credibility: The media and the bones of Jesus
Posted on 03/02/2007 1:18:35 PM PST by presidio9
Director James Camerons follow-up to his Oscar-winning Titanic was a documentary about the wreckage of the doomed ship. The film contained so many shots of Cameron in a deep-sea submersible that one critic named him Captain Nemo.
Well, Captain Nemo has surfaced again.
In an upcoming Discovery Channel special, Cameron claims to have found an ossuary containing the bones of Jesus. How does he know? Through a combination of Sesame Street and The DaVinci Code.
The ossuary is inscribed Joshua, son of Josephnames that are not exactly rare among first-century Jewish males. So Cameron also points out the nearby ossuaries bearing names of people associated with Jesusmost importantly, Mary, as in Magdalene.
Actually, it doesnt say Mary but Mariamne, whichaccording to some peoplewas what other people called the Magdalene. This is good enough for Cameron, who considers it natural that Jesus would be buried alongside his so-called wife.
See what I mean about The DaVinci Code? If do, you are not alone. Archaeologist Amos Kloner, who did extensive work and research on this very tomb and its ossuaries ten years ago, said its a beautiful story but without any proof whatsoever . . . Lawrence Steigler of Harvard told National Public Radio that Camerons claim sounds rather preposterous.
When even Harvard and NPR call your bit of revisionism preposterous, you know that you are way out on a limb. Then again, Cameron is far from the first person to dash his credibility to pieces against the stone that was rolled away that first Easter.
Like others, his ultimate explanation for what happened that Sunday morning is a cover-up. Like others, he has no explanation for why the Apostles would be willing to die for what they presumably knew to be a lie. I know a thing or two about cover-ups and conspiracies: No conspirator willingly dies for what he knows to be untrueor, in the case of Watergate, even go to jail. The closest men around the president of the United States testified against him to save their own skins. Youre going to tell me the Apostles maintained their story at the cost of their lives? Impossible.
Whats worse than Camerons preposterous claims is the credulous reaction of the media.
At the website Get Religion (which analyzes the medias coverage of religion), Daniel Pulliam put it this way: Many news organizations [are] reporting [Camerons] words as gospel truth. Hes right. A headline in the New York Timess blog read Raising the Titanic, Sinking Christianity? Time followed, proclaiming that this time, the ship [Camerons] sinking is Christianity.
While Newsweek magazine did manage to quote Camerons critics, as Pulliam pointed out, their words [were treated] as equal to that of the moviemakerwho, by the way, admits hes not a theologist or an archaeologist, just a filmmaker.
Pulliam is right when he says that at this point the coverage of this story is an embarrassment to reporters. And they wonder why they are held in low esteem among believers?
Stories like this and the fuss over the Gospel of Judas are slickly packaged revisionism. After the revisionism has been shredded, the only thing sinking beneath the waves is the medias credibility.
Then I guess no one is interested in Moses' bones, which I have in an old Maxwell House Coffee can in my garage...
The Discovery Channel has just started advertising showing this debacle. As I don't watch much of that channel I won't make too much difference when I dont' happen by while this is showing.
(I've already seen the pix of the box)
As someone said on Fox last night, they can't even prove who is the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby, and there they have the baby, the mom, many dads, and a body, all nice and new and some of them still alive and pictures and records and everything.
But they know Jesus was in that grave 2000 years ago, even without a modern evidence trail.
Larry King's already proclaimed this "the end of the road for the Easter Bunny".
Really. I'm not kidding.
Reminds me of a kid saying the alphabet. Starts out with "A", "B", "C", "G", "M", "Q", and "Z".
Screwtape would be proud of our Media.
This "Geraldo Moment" of Cameron's will keep him in the public's eye for quite some time - he's just another Hollywood Liberal meddling with something he doesn't understand.
Faith, Salvation and the Hope of Man aren't found in a burial box; I hope he learns that one day.
lol, that's what I was thinking!
Simple for me .... get a sample of God's DNA then compare it to the bones he found ......
I mentioned this in a previous thread about the but, the more I see about the "science" behind this alleged documentary the more I am reminded of Steven Wright's story of about a friend of his who spent an "amazing" amount of money to discover who built the pyramids. After many years of research his friend finally concluded that "he was pretty sure it was some guy named Eddie."
"Cameron is full of it."
He didn't find it. This site was dug up decades ago. There are six coffins, but only three sets of bones. The guy who did find the site has called Cameron's conclusions preposterous.
Hey! That's exciting and novel!
Up to the very moment you posted, no one knew where Moses is buried.
Maxwell House? Good coffee. I'm sure Moses appreciates it.
Ever notice these two things?
1) These people (Such as Cameron and Brown) who are fiction writers and admittedly not Christians can suddenly and with Media-Generated 'credibility,' attack and are said to "disprove" a faith that has survived much stronger opponents for 2000 years;
2) When a Christian reads the CORRECTLY TRANSLATED WORDS, in context, of the Koran to expose the violence inherent in Islam, that Christian is instantly attacked as not being 'a scholar of Islam' and as such couldn't possibly know enough to say anything critical of Islam?
Can anyone tell me why (short of the American Media hating the Truth) there is such a blatant double-standard?
Seriously, is there any other explanation?
The vow you are thinking of is a "Nazerite" vow.
Scripture says Jesus was a "Nazarene"
Good thinking, though. And I am impressed by your self-correction, it shows class.
Keep it up, we need the discussions...
I'm confused. Do you mean covenant?
Yeah.... sorry, my spelling is not up to par.
not a problem.
The Hitler diaries were obviously real as Adolph Hitler's name was right on them. I'm waiting for Cameron to produce Jesus' high school graduation picture or the table check for the last supper.
I've got a piece of the One True Cross propping up my One True Coffee Table.
Proof that Mel Brooks was the busboy at the Last Supper.
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would you mind dealing with your
There has been a constant stream of this stuff for quite some time. It is an attempt to steer people from the truth.
A man sat reading his Bible and smiling. Another man asked him why he was smiling. He replied, " I've just read about God parting the Red Sea for His children to cross over.
The other man said, "surely you don't believe that - they crossed the Reed Sea and it is only a few inches deep"
"Oh I see", said the first man.
A few minutes later the 2nd man saw the first man smiling again and asked him why. He replied, "I'm smiling because our father drowned Phraroah and his army in a few inches of water".
and I've got Elvis' in a pasta jar in my fridge....does that count for anything....obviously, he's not left the building.....
[...Cameron is far from the first person to
dash his credibility to pieces against the
stone that was rolled away that first Easter...]
Must be repeated, often.
I agree and to shake peoples faith, but, we need to be strong and trust God's word.
I don't pretend to be able to read either ancient Hebrew or Greek (or modern for that matter) but doesn't the RED/REED thing only work in English?
Just how "convenient" would a Nazarene have to be?
Just seems to me that unless the words are spelled nearly the same in the original language too (which they rarely are when the words are not related) that their little theory doesn't hold any water (theology and right thinking aside). In other words, just because the spelling is similar in English doesn't mean that it is in the language that the Bible was written in. And if the spelling in ancient Hebrew isn't similar then how could the alleged mistake have ever been made?
That's great! Thanks for the laugh!
Steven Wright is a bona fide genius.
Christianity is the enemy of the Left. They are willing to believe any lie that promotes their agenda because they want so desperately to believe that sin is not sin and their acts have no consequences.
I marvel at how many Christ deniers who claimed for years that Jesus never existed are now willing to claim these bones must be those of Jesus - so long as you also accept that Christianity is a lie.
Here's one question I'd pose to them. If the Apostles were liars and Jesus as the Risen Lord was a hoax, why would they be so stupid as to label the box where his bones were supposedly buried?
> Here's one question I'd pose to them. If the Apostles
> were liars and Jesus as the Risen Lord was a hoax,
> why would they be so stupid as to label the box where
> his bones were supposedly buried?
And if it were all a lie, why would the all the original Apostles, save 1, be willing to die for it?
James Cameron has "jumped the shark" with this one.
And Discovery is jumping it with him.
But ? perhaps ? Jesus made a Nazarene convenient before his public ministry ?
"I marvel at how many Christ deniers who claimed for
years that Jesus never existed are now willing to
claim these bones must be those of Jesus - so long as
you also accept that Christianity is a lie.
You hit the nail on the head with that one. They want it both ways - and there is only one way.
For what it's worth, I've wondered the same thing.