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12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | March6, 2007 | Gudrun Schultz

Posted on 03/07/2007 7:48:42 AM PST by csistrueblue

12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

By Gudrun Schultz

VANCOUVER, Washington, March 6, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A number of students who formed an interdenominational prayer group at a Washington state high school were expelled by the administration last week over their refusal to hold a morning prayer session in a closed room, The Columbian reported March 2.

Twelve students at Heritage High School in Vancouver, WA, were suspended last Friday after continuing to meet for morning prayer in the commons area of the school, despite a faculty order that they stop causing physical "disruption" to student traffic with public prayer.

To express concerns, contact:

Heritage High School 7825 NE 130th Avenue, Vancouver, WA 98682

Phone: (360) 604-3400

Principal: Anne Sosky asosky@egreen.wednet.edu


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KEYWORDS: freedomofspeech; schoolprayer
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To: HairOfTheDog
to ensure
other students
were not
offended

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the right to avoid being offended . . . RAHHHHHHHGHT.

GRRRRRRR. Methinks that's the issue here.

51 posted on 03/07/2007 8:46:50 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: Stone Mountain

Okay, if you are right and they were offered a room, that's fine, but even if they were doing it to make a point, after reading a few comments on this post, I do believe their point has now made. They are showing the hypocrisy of their fellow men.
Have you ever been shopping at a mall or better yet Costco and have people standing in the middle of an aisle with cart in tow and chit chatting to their friends while you are trying to get to an item. This is okay...because? I think we also know are news media, so just how much of this story is true?


52 posted on 03/07/2007 8:53:29 AM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN, you are UNAmerican)
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To: Ramius; caseinpoint

The only question here is whether other groups have been allowed to "block traffic" by holding meetings in the commons area. If other groups can do ot, so can the prayer group; if other groups are also required to meet in other rooms, then the prayer group should be required to do the same.

We don't have much info about the layout of the room and surrounding areas, nor about the size of the group, but unless it's a very large group in a very small space, or the group is deliberately planting itself in the middle of the main path through the room (seems unikely), then the "blocking traffic" explanation seems a bit contrived. I wonder if it IS a very large group, and has only been offered alternative rooms that are not large enough for the group and/or would be so crowded as to discourage any additional students from joining.


53 posted on 03/07/2007 8:54:38 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Stone Mountain

Let's get more info before deciding whether or not to freep. They may have been offered a room that was too small to accommodate the group or allow for any growth at all. Or they may have been offered a room in a very remote location, which would have tended to discourage participation, while "politically correct" groups get the convenient spaces. How large is this group, and is it posing a legitimate hazard in the event an emergency evacuation of the school is needed, and to a degree not posed by any other groups that have been allowed to continue their activities?


54 posted on 03/07/2007 8:58:54 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

We don't have much info about the layout of the room and surrounding areas, nor about the size of the group, but unless it's a very large group in a very small space, or the group is deliberately planting itself in the middle of the main path through the room (seems unikely), then the "blocking traffic" explanation seems a bit contrived. I wonder if it IS a very large group, and has only been offered alternative rooms that are not large enough for the group and/or would be so crowded as to discourage any additional students from joining.

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MUCH AGREE.


55 posted on 03/07/2007 8:58:57 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; GOD ALONE PAID THE PRICE; GOD ALONE IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY)
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To: EndWelfareToday
Not wearing your glasses this morning? I said S H O U T I N G not S H O O T I N G.

Uh, you said neither shouting ~nor~ shooting, from what I can see. I'm not quite sure why you're all flipped out on me. I don't think I've said anything all that controversial. Perhaps you've got me confused with someone else?

56 posted on 03/07/2007 9:01:39 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: HairOfTheDog
to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic

If a school official actually said that, the school's case is DOA. No doubt there are plenty of things going in public areas of the school that the prayer group kids find offensive.

57 posted on 03/07/2007 9:03:09 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: moneypenny
Have you ever been shopping at a mall or better yet Costco and have people standing in the middle of an aisle with cart in tow and chit chatting to their friends while you are trying to get to an item. This is okay...because?

This is not okay. If people are blocking the aisles of a Costco and not allowing people to shop, I think you can be pretty sure that Costco employees will be along soon to move everyone along.

Why was it so important for that group to pray in a public corridor instead of in private? I think we all know the answer to that question.

58 posted on 03/07/2007 9:03:31 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: GovernmentShrinker
They may have been offered a room that was too small to accommodate the group or allow for any growth at all.

There were only 12 of them - I would guess most school rooms are more than capable of holding twice that many people.

Or they may have been offered a room in a very remote location, which would have tended to discourage participation, while "politically correct" groups get the convenient spaces. How large is this group, and is it posing a legitimate hazard in the event an emergency evacuation of the school is needed, and to a degree not posed by any other groups that have been allowed to continue their activities?

Remote location doesn't bother me - if they are being provided with a place to gather, that is sufficient. It's not like high schools are so big that students can't get to any classroom in a few minutes. If it's true that other groups are being afforded preferential treatment, that would be a good point, but there is no mention of that in the article.
59 posted on 03/07/2007 9:08:25 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: csistrueblue
according to later in the article this was the problem.

No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bill Bentley said. Administrators had offered a classroom for the students' use, to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic.

60 posted on 03/07/2007 9:09:48 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Stone Mountain

Because they can?? And your wrong about employees coming along and breaking up people gabbing at Costco. They don't police patrol the aisles. At least in the ones I've shopped at.


61 posted on 03/07/2007 9:10:30 AM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN, you are UNAmerican)
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To: Ramius
Let's be careful here, and make sure that the right thing is being argued.

Make no mistake, the battle is about Christianity vs Hedionism.

Do we have a clue here as to how hard it is for loyal Patriotic, Christians to work in the public schools? Yet most here want to allow these administrators to fire incompetent teachers. Care to guess who those incompetent teachers would be?

62 posted on 03/07/2007 9:10:43 AM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: moneypenny

Why in the world are you comparing shopping at Costco with kids at a public school?


63 posted on 03/07/2007 9:13:57 AM PST by NorthFlaRebel
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To: longtermmemmory
If the homosexual sex club was having a hump in in the common area, rubbernecking would be made mandatory by the administration.

Hmmmm. Now there's a stupid comment.

64 posted on 03/07/2007 9:14:03 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Godzilla
The group was given brochures about the rights and responsibilities regarding prayer in school, [Principal]Sosky said, and was told numerous times it could meet for prayer but had to form a club with a staff adviser to do so. The participants also were assigned to meet in a room to not offend other students or interfere with their getting to class, and a teacher volunteered to be adviser, but the group continued to ignore the rules, she said.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2007/03/heritage_high_prayer_group_stu.html

Sounds like it was maximum of 12 students participating in the prayer group. Given that they were meeting before 7AM in the school cafeteria, it's hard to imagine how that could have been significantly blocking traffic. From what the prinicpal told reporters, it sounds as if the prayer aspect was the key issue, not the blocking traffic issue.

65 posted on 03/07/2007 9:14:46 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Ramius

I agree. I think you would have to know how disruptive they are.


66 posted on 03/07/2007 9:16:04 AM PST by stinkerpot65
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To: HOTTIEBOY
They were asked to take it to a designated area and to clear the hallway.

More like the back of the bus. How can 12 people block the flow of trafic in the Commons area, that is not a hallway?

67 posted on 03/07/2007 9:18:43 AM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: moneypenny
Because they can?

No they can't. A school has a right to make rules about traffic flow. They just wanted to be all public with their prayers; otherwise, they would have just gone to a classroom discretely.

And your wrong about employees coming along and breaking up people gabbing at Costco. They don't police patrol the aisles. At least in the ones I've shopped at.

I've never been blocked by a group at Costco for very long. I'm sure that if I was, Costco would do something about it. Their business is selling stuff - if a group was impeding that process, of course Costco would do something about it.
68 posted on 03/07/2007 9:19:50 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Son House
Commons area is not a hallway, it's a lunchroom type enviroment.

Unless other groups are allowed to gather in the Commons area, this doesn't really matter.
69 posted on 03/07/2007 9:22:23 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain

I couldn't tell from the posted article whether the 12 suspended were the whole group, or just the ones who refused to stop/move after being asked to. From the other article that I posted a link to, it's pretty clear that there were only 12.

Remote location is an issue only if it distinctly different from the locations offered to favored groups. If most student groups are given rooms in a central area of the school, with which all students are familiar, and which has high foot traffic which would tend to publicize the existence of the groups, and the prayer group is offered a room in an area where most students rarely if ever go, that would be a problem (like on a hall with administrative offices that have no student contact, or in an overflow trailer classroom on the perimeter of the campus). A lot of high schools are VERY large these days, often with multiple buildings.


70 posted on 03/07/2007 9:24:12 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: csistrueblue; All
For everyones information, here's the story from The Columbian.

Friday, March 02, 2007
By HOWARD BUCK, Columbian Staff Writer

A dust-up over group prayers in the Heritage High School commons before the start of school triggered the suspension of a dozen students on Friday.

It also quickly threatened to fan up into a broader skirmish in the culture war.

By day’s end, “pagans,” “Satanists” and religious freedom were words in play, and a Florida-based group affiliated with Jerry Falwell had announced it would defend the students.

A top Evergreen Public Schools administrator downplayed the incident but confirmed that 12 pupils were disciplined after they ignored a faculty order to stop meeting for prayer in the commons area at the 2,200-student high school near Orchards, one of Clark County’s largest schools.

A praying student ordered to detention on Friday said two group co-leaders received 10-day suspensions, while eight others were given three-day suspensions. They had been warned on Thursday not to meet again in the commons, she said.

Bill Bentley, an Evergreen assistant superintendent who oversees Heritage, said pupils were warned days ago that their informal morning prayer sessions were blocking traffic in the crowded commons. Other students complained to school faculty about the prayers, he said.

Heritage administrators offered use of a classroom to the group, per written district policy that allows religious or other student clubs to use school facilities during non-school hours, with limited supervision.

Bentley said it was the physical “disruption” of the prayer group inside the busy campus corridor and open defiance of faculty orders that earned the suspensions, not the prayers themselves.

“No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students,” Bentley said.

Per privacy rules, he would not elaborate on details of the suspensions.

School officials had contacted several parents and youth pastors to explain the situation. That allowed word to spread. On Friday, the media quickly latched onto the story. One Portland television crew reportedly came to Heritage to interview students.

Also, the Orlando, Fla.-based Liberty Counsel, which is affiliated with Jerry Falwell and his conservative, religious Liberty University in southern Virginia, issued a news release declaring it would defend the Heritage students.

“It is absolutely outrageous that the school allowed one Satanist student to exercise a heckler’s veto over the other students’ speech,” said Anita L. Staver, Liberty Counsel president. Liberty Counsel describes itself as “a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom, the sanctity of human life and the traditional family.

“ Bentley called the entire flap a “non-story.”

“I’m positive there was also some outside influence on this. There were some folks pushing to make this an issue that aren’t part of our Evergreen community,” he said.

Bentley said leaders of the prayer group had been given a district brochure that lists “Students’ Rights of Religious Expression and Practice.” The guide cites the right of “student-initiated religious clubs” to gain access to “facilities and media” on the same basis as other student clubs. Evergreen policy also allows students to individually pray “unobtrusively” at any time, so long as it does not interfere with normal school instruction.

But a member of the loose, multi-faith group disciplined on Friday said it doesn’t want club designation, nor to be pushed to a “secluded” classroom.

Junior student Megan Gaultier, 16, who first joined the prayers on Thursday, said the 10-to-15 minute, standing prayer circles, where students held hands and prayed softly in one portion of the commons-cafeteria area, were purposely low-key.

When one student Gaultier described as “pagan” objected to their prayers but in a respectful manner, the group obliged by moving elsewhere, Gaultier said. But four or five students complained to administrators, apparently forcing the crackdown, she said. The prayer group had not yet decided whether to accept an alternate site by Friday, when members were pulled aside and suspended, she said.

“We’re not bothering anybody. If we’re not preaching and passing out fliers, why can’t we do it?” Gaultier said. “Basically, there are just the pagans who are against it.” She identified herself as Baptist, while several Russian Orthodox students, a Methodist and a Catholic formed the roughly week-old group, she said.

The prayer circle’s purpose is visibility, to give other shy students the strength to express their faith, Gaultier said. “If we’re in a secluded room, they can’t just join in” as she had, Gaultier said. Group members’ friends have prayed at other Vancouver and Evergreen high schools without a hassle, she said.

Kathryn Murdock, attorney for Vancouver Public Schools, said prayer groups likely were active in Vancouver district high schools. Students’ “right to freedom of expression” is honored when it’s not distracting, a point she has long hammered home in staff training sessions, she said.

“If they’re not intimidating other kids, if they’re not being coercive, they would be allowed to continue in their prayer,” Murdock said. If pre-, post-school or lunchtime group prayers grow disruptive because of outsider taunting, “the problem is with the students doing the taunting, and those are the students that need to be dealt with,” she said.

Neither Gaultier nor Bentley said heckling occurred at Heritage. Gaultier said assistant principals were supportive and had stayed “calm” despite the sanctioning.

Evergreen policies fall completely in line with common public school practice, Bentley said. There was no bias against the praying students, he repeated.

“They’re in the middle of a very busy area, grouped together, so others couldn’t get around,” he said. “Other kids cannot avoid it. That’s not appropriate, whether they’re praying or whatever they’re doing.”

71 posted on 03/07/2007 9:24:30 AM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: politicalwit
raising hell if the Muslins had requested a closed area for their prayer.

You are kidding, Muslims already have private prayer rooms in many schools, check New York City.

72 posted on 03/07/2007 9:24:41 AM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: itsahoot
More like the back of the bus. How can 12 people block the flow of trafic in the Commons area, that is not a hallway?

It can certainly be done. But even if they are just inconveniencing people but making them walk around them, the school doesn't have to put up with it. I have seen no evidence that the school allows other groups to meet in the Commons area. Why should this group be special? And again, if ALL they wanted to do was pray, they were provided a room to do so. Obviously, they had somethine else in mind.
73 posted on 03/07/2007 9:26:26 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Given that they were meeting before 7AM in the school cafeteria, it's hard to imagine how that could have been significantly blocking traffic. From what the prinicpal told reporters, it sounds as if the prayer aspect was the key issue, not the blocking traffic issue.

Agree, from other report I've read, the group petitioned to form a bible club-like prayer group but were denied.

74 posted on 03/07/2007 9:26:32 AM PST by Godzilla (Got Jesus? Its hell with out Him.)
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To: csistrueblue

Were they using a Koran or Bible?


75 posted on 03/07/2007 9:26:43 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Remote location is an issue only if it distinctly different from the locations offered to favored groups.

Agreed. I have seen no mention of this yet. If this were the case, I'm sure one of the 12 martyrs will be sure to bring it up.
76 posted on 03/07/2007 9:28:31 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
f people are blocking the aisles of a Costco and not allowing people to shop, I think you can be pretty sure that Costco employees will be along soon to move everyone along.

If only that were true, I am a regular Costco shopper, and can attest that this has never happened where I shop. Rudest customers in the world, both on the parking lot and the shopping isles.

77 posted on 03/07/2007 9:32:01 AM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: jazusamo
The prayer circle’s purpose is visibility...

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." [Matthew 6:5-6]
78 posted on 03/07/2007 9:33:26 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Froufrou

The headline makes it look as if the prayer was the issue - it wasn't. There are enough LEGITIMATE cases of schools and other public organizations showing an anti-Christian bias to not have to make something out of a case that's not rooted in that.


79 posted on 03/07/2007 9:33:28 AM PST by RockinRight (My wish for Islam - The Glass Parking Lot Formerly Known As The Middle East.)
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To: Stone Mountain

Presumably. The article just posted above implies that the trigger for adminstrative action was a handful of student complaints about the content of the activity, not about "blocking traffic". If an anti-war group of a dozen students had made a habit of gathering in the cafeteria of the 2200 student school for 10-15 minutes in the morning, before the school start time of 7AM, to share the latest stories of "innocent Iraqis killed by American soldiers", who, would they have been told they had to relocate the activity to an assigned room? Of would their argument that it was important to "make other students aware of the issues" have sufficed for administrators who happened to agree.

Frankly, in a school this size, I have some trouble believing this is the first time that a group of a dozen or students has made a habit of hanging out together in the cafeteria for a little while in the mornings before school started.


80 posted on 03/07/2007 9:37:47 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Godzilla
In the articel at post 71, a member of the groups is reported to have said they DON't want club status. But a member of the loose, multi-faith group disciplined on Friday said it doesn’t want club designation

This is understandable because the very nature of the group's belief system is that group prayer should be a normal part of everyday life, not something that is just done by members of an organized club.

81 posted on 03/07/2007 9:41:54 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
If an anti-war group of a dozen students had made a habit of gathering in the cafeteria of the 2200 student school for 10-15 minutes in the morning, before the school start time of 7AM, to share the latest stories of "innocent Iraqis killed by American soldiers", who, would they have been told they had to relocate the activity to an assigned room? Of would their argument that it was important to "make other students aware of the issues" have sufficed for administrators who happened to agree.

If this had happened, you would have a good point. However, it appears that no groups are allowed to have their meetings in the Common area.
82 posted on 03/07/2007 9:44:52 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: GovernmentShrinker
If an anti-war group of a dozen students had made a habit of gathering in the cafeteria of the 2200 student school for 10-15 minutes in the morning, before the school start time of 7AM, to share the latest stories of "innocent Iraqis killed by American soldiers", who, would they have been told they had to relocate the activity to an assigned room? Of would their argument that it was important to "make other students aware of the issues" have sufficed for administrators who happened to agree.

If this had happened, you would have a good point. However, it appears that no groups are allowed to have their meetings in the Common area.
83 posted on 03/07/2007 9:44:58 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain

That passage is generally interpreted to mean that one should not engage in prayer with the intent of impressing others, not that one should never pray in public. A reasonable interpretation, since Jesus and his followers are described in the New Testament as doing quite a bit of public praying.


84 posted on 03/07/2007 9:46:59 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Mr. Lucky

Bingo!!!!:)

Becky


85 posted on 03/07/2007 9:47:56 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: Stone Mountain

We don't know that that has been the policy in the past; though I'm sure administrators are now prohibiting other groups from meeting there.


86 posted on 03/07/2007 9:49:00 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: RobRoy

The lady who is suing for "wrongful birth" (on another thread) is apparently named Raper.


87 posted on 03/07/2007 9:51:08 AM PST by MortMan (Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.)
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To: csistrueblue
If they were truly blocking traffic, then they deserve to be disciplined. . .as long as all others who do the same are also disciplined.

I would be willing to bet, however, that if a homosexual group were conducting some sort of protest and blocking students from moving through the commons, nothing would have been done.

88 posted on 03/07/2007 9:53:54 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Stone Mountain
have seen no evidence that the school allows other groups to meet in the Commons area.

No and you probably won't, wonder why that is?

Go check out a few schools Stone, there are several shortcomings in your understanding of the public school process.

89 posted on 03/07/2007 9:53:58 AM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Yes, for this you need the tag. It is all pretty close to reality in California.


90 posted on 03/07/2007 9:54:25 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Stone Mountain
[Matthew 6:5-6]

You really want to go there Stone?

91 posted on 03/07/2007 9:57:03 AM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: Ramius
Uhhhhh...

Hmmmmm?

Did you not make this post - to me?
If you weren't alluding to a prior post of mine why did you claim that I was "trigger happy"?
In my quest to find out what the heck you were talking about I went back and reread my posts in this thread. My original post on this thread is the only one I could find that could even come remotely close to leading someone into thinking that I was "trigger happy" and anyone that would, would either have some serious reading comprehension issues or they misread the word "shouting" from the rooftops to mean "shooting" from the rooftops.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Now... Having only the assumption that you misread my post and that, from my perspective, you inserted the word "shooting" in place of "shouting" I made my follow up, tongue in cheek, post to you correcting what I assumed was a mistake on your part when you made the claim that I was "trigger happy." Apparently you don't even recall making the above post and it seems you lack a sense of humor.


If you wish to play please... Try to keep up with your own posts or be clearer in your responses. There is enough confusion in the world as it is. ;-)

Thanks!
92 posted on 03/07/2007 10:00:35 AM PST by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I think we have a similiar attitude about this....


93 posted on 03/07/2007 10:02:11 AM PST by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: csistrueblue

I'm sure if it was a Muslim prayer group, the administration would have looked the other way.


94 posted on 03/07/2007 10:03:14 AM PST by rintense (Just say no to McCain in 2008!)
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To: jazusamo

“They’re in the middle of a very busy area, grouped together, so others couldn’t get around,” he said. “Other kids cannot avoid it. That’s not appropriate, whether they’re praying or whatever they’re doing.”

Deserves to be repeated.


95 posted on 03/07/2007 10:09:49 AM PST by voltaires_zit
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To: EndWelfareToday
Good grief... what's your problem? Why are you attacking me? All I've said is that maybe they were actually just blocking traffic... maybe I'm wrong about that... but then you come back with this silly nonsense:

Yet you have no problems, I'm sure, with sodomites running naked through the middle of the street playing grab arse right?

LOL... pardon me if I laugh, inasmuch as I can't imagine what I said that leads you to such a ridiculous conclusion. ~That~ is what I meant by trigger-happy. You flamed out at nothing. Yeesh.

I've already spent more time on this than it deserves. Please feel free to let it drop.

96 posted on 03/07/2007 10:12:58 AM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: csistrueblue

bump...


97 posted on 03/07/2007 10:16:24 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Nightshift

ping a ling...


98 posted on 03/07/2007 10:16:52 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: AZRepublican

or if they were praying toward Mecca...it would not matter how much student traffic was disrupted.


99 posted on 03/07/2007 10:21:05 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: voltaires_zit

That was my take on it also and they had been warned.


100 posted on 03/07/2007 10:22:03 AM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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