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DC Circuit strikes down DC gun law
How Appealing Blog ^ | 03/08/2007 | Howard Bashman

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:10:02 AM PST by cryptical

Edited on 03/09/2007 10:38:14 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: oceanview

Sorry, that bit I quoted didn't include much opinion. Here's a better one. I think the position is rather clear.

From Nelson Lund, part of the Federalist Society's Civil Rights group:

"udge Cummings' opinion is much better reasoned than most Second Amendment decisions, and the Fifth Circuit is probably less hostile to the right to keep and bear arms than any other court of appeals. The federal courts have never struck down any statute under the Second Amendment, and the Supreme Court has not taken a Second Amendment case since 1939. Emerson could therefore lead either to a major advance or a major setback for the right that Justice Story called "the palladium of the liberties of a republic.""


581 posted on 03/09/2007 3:25:51 PM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: NinoFan; oceanview

And the link to go with it, LOL. http://www.fed-soc.org/Publications/practicegroupnewsletters/civilrights/second-civv3i1.htm

Anyway, you get the idea. :)


582 posted on 03/09/2007 3:27:05 PM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: oceanview
I don't post on these 2A threads much - but I've always said, "be careful what you wish for". the current system of state based laws, works pretty well in this country - generally speaking. open up this can of worms amongst the federal judiciary, and who know what the hell they will send the states way as an end result.

What can of worms could the judiciary open up? State and local governments have had a free hand to ban at will. Can you outline a Second Amendment ruling that would negatively affect the RKBA at the state or local level?

583 posted on 03/09/2007 3:28:27 PM PST by Ken H
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To: oceanview

One other thing to keep in mind is that the Federalist Society doesn't demand purity from its members like some organizations. As I said before, there is no list of things that everyone must believe.

In other words, although there is strong support for the individual rights view, both in the membership and in the leadership, it is possible to have a member who does not support such a view. That's why membership is a good indicator, but not a perfect one when evaluating judges.


584 posted on 03/09/2007 3:29:35 PM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: cryptical

The dissenters to the people: The Bill of Rights do not apply to the residents of the District of Columbia.


585 posted on 03/09/2007 3:30:15 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: cryptical

Aw, why so glum?: http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070309/480/dcjm10603092212;_ylt=AlHVgNtaEqi3lU6VxzbprElH2ocA


586 posted on 03/09/2007 3:30:29 PM PST by Nevski
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To: Ken H

Not yet. However, if you reject the "militas" argument and focus on the individual right, as the DC Circuit did here, then incorporation becomes a much more like possibility.

And before any anti-gunners freak out, even if the SCOTUS does eventually hold it applies to the states, it's not going to treat it like the 1A. In other words, plenty of regs will be allowed, just not bans or regs that are the functional equivalent of bans.


587 posted on 03/09/2007 3:32:03 PM PST by NinoFan (Rudy Lovers: The Rosie O'Donnell Wing of the Republican Party)
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To: cryptical

I assumed there would be a great Wailing and gnashing of teeth" among supporters of gun bans. A trip to DUmmieland proved me right. As did a look at the Brady Center website. Interesting thing about websites like the Brady one. They never make provisions for comments...no e-mail provisions, never a toll free number, only snail mail or faxes and regular numbers. They KNOW they are a small minority and only preach to a very small but vocal choir. But despite what the DC mayor is saying about the decision, it is a great day for the common resident who does not have armed bodyguards, like his, to protect them.


588 posted on 03/09/2007 3:32:49 PM PST by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: patton
Out of courtesey, you really ought to ping him when you berate hime. Only polite.

There are a few trolls here who don't particularly deserve politeness or courtesy.

589 posted on 03/09/2007 3:34:31 PM PST by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: Dead Corpse
"Because you advocate "regulations" that make it impossible to exercise a Right."

Nope. You're confused. I merely pointed out the government's power to write the regulations. That doesn't mean I support the regulations.

590 posted on 03/09/2007 3:35:25 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: domenad
They reported this on Brit Hume but did not discuss it much. They showed the Mayor of DC calling the decision an outrage, like he makes any difference in the courts.

If the decision is upheld, it will be huge. People like that crappy Mayor won't be ablle to run roughshod over our gunrights.

591 posted on 03/09/2007 3:36:51 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: flashbunny
"YOU RUDY HATERS ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO ATTACK HIM NO MATTER WHAT THREAD YOU'RE ON!!!! YOU'RE JUST A BUNCH OF RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS!!!!!!! POLITICS OF PERSONAL DESTRUCTION!!! POLITICS OF PERSONAL DESTRUCTION!!!

Heeee ... let it all out. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

592 posted on 03/09/2007 3:37:17 PM PST by StormEye
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To: robertpaulsen
That doesn't mean I support the regulations.

Liar.

593 posted on 03/09/2007 3:38:26 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

How dare you talk to one of our biggest statists that way!!!

;)


594 posted on 03/09/2007 3:41:59 PM PST by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: flashbunny

It's a free country and a web forum dedicated to Freedom and our Republic. I'll treat my sock puppet with care, no worries there. ;-)


595 posted on 03/09/2007 3:43:13 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Steel Wolf
I still want a M240G, though.


What does the "G" signify?

Did you see the titanium one in Small Arms Review (centerfold) this month?

Saves weight, but likely has a number of challenges with that material.
596 posted on 03/09/2007 3:45:48 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Iamnobodyspecial
If they affirmed the *individual* right to keep and bear arms, how will this impact:

1.) Restrictions on the number of purchases that can be made in a certain time period.
2.) Restriction on which citizens may or may not keep arms
3.) Restriction on which types of firearms may be owned.
4.) Rrstrictions on how/when purchases may be made.


Reading the opinion, the only one of those that they came down strongly against is 3. The holding does not seem to create precedent helpful or harmful on the other questions.
597 posted on 03/09/2007 3:51:08 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
If the decision is upheld, it will be huge.

If this holds all the way to SCOTUS, we'll soon be testing the definition of the word "Infringe".

598 posted on 03/09/2007 3:51:49 PM PST by umgud
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To: domenad

The Supreme Court said it in Justice Thomas' opinion in US v. Verdugo - Urquidez, but the remarks were 'dicta.'


599 posted on 03/09/2007 3:54:53 PM PST by sig226 (see my profile for the democrat culture of corruption)
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To: cryptical

Bang bang, I hit the ground
Bang bang, that awful sound
Bang bang, my baby shot me down.


600 posted on 03/09/2007 3:59:59 PM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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