Skip to comments."Ban Ann Coulter": Free speech for me but not for thee?
Posted on 03/09/2007 12:57:28 PM PST by SmithL
The Chronicle's story today on the ongoing furor over Ann Coulter and the 'F-word', reports that the backlash includes a campaign initiated today by a gay rights group and media watchdog to persuade mainstream media outlets to dump her for good.
The organizations in question, GLAAD and the Human Rights Campaign, are seeking to get rid of Coulter from the airwaves and from being syndicated to newspapers.
Is all this a step too far?
Ironically, GLAAD itself is the target of a campaign by the American Family Association to get the Ford Motor Co., a development noted by the gay web site, Queerty.
Taking a leaf from HRC's book, should other organizations petition to take Bill Maher off of HBO because of his off-color remarks on the possible untimely death of Dick Cheney. That happened to Maher once before, when "Politically Incorrect" was summarily dispatched from ABC after he made comments perceived to be politically incorrect about Al Qaeda.
So, how far might, or should, this erosion of offensive speech go?
Is there a difference between activist organizations pushing to boot Ann Coulter off the air, and, say, the government of Turkey banning You Tube because of perceived undignified references to Kamal Attaturk (since lifted by a Turkish court). Or schools and libraries banning literature considered "dangerous." Or New York City banning the "N-word", no matter how much it is part of the vernacular (as is the "F-word"). Or, for that matter, Europe criminalizing Holocaust denial.
All terribly offensive, of course, but so are Klan marches, and neo-Nazi marches through Skokie, which the ACLU defended
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The people who are doing this are the same people who talk about the Dixie Chicks like they're Saint Stephen, Patron of Martyrs.
Go Ann Go!
First Schlesinger now Coulter. It seems the conservative white women are the only ones willing to risk anything to stop the homo/race pimp/liberal agenda. Why are white men so unwilling to do what they have done?
San Fran tried to ban Fox News so no one could see O'Reilly. Free speech as long as you believe what WE believe.
I've always found people who try to silence their opponents far more offensive than even the most outrageous speech.
"So, how far might, or should, this erosion of offensive speech go?"
Efforts to limit the commercial exposure and viability of Ann Coulter do not affect her free speech.
If not being on network news is the measure of the freedom of a person's speech, I am virtually without a voice!
Ann brought this on herself.
She has a right to free speech. Everyone else has the right to object to what she says.
Whats the problem?
This has nothing to do with Free Speech. Coulter isn't being prosecuted by the government. She has the right to say what she wants, and others have the right to complain, boycott, or whatever. It wasn't a Free Speech issue when Freepers boycotted the Dixie Chicks, and it isn't a Free Speech issue now.
I'm tired of being annoyed by the NAGGERS!
Whatwhatwhat? : )
Stick to your guns Ann!
Neither what Ms Coulter said, nor what the Dixie Chicks said, is particularly outrageous, imo. Outrageous is, for example, David Duke or Louis Farrakhan in some of their more "out there" moments.
Somebody who was offended might reasonably not buy any more of the offended party's merchandise (whatever it may be).
But to go out of one's way to kick them from the marketplace is just a cheap ploy to limit debate.
I'm neither attacking nor defending Coulter. All my post did was point out how the Human Rights Campaigns of the world that are so intent on silencing Coulter are the same people who are horrified by the "censoring" of the Dixie Chicks.
Literacy is a valuable skill.
Whatwhatwhat? : )
LOL!! Caught me off guard.
>>Ann brought this on herself.
She has a right to free speech. Everyone else has the right to object to what she says.
Whats the problem?<<
I'm with you on this one. She knows what she is doing here and it is high entertainment to watch the detractors squirm.
And with every controversy, she becomes more and more of a household word - first derided, and then applauded as people educate themselves.
Human beings are fascinating!
"This has nothing to do with Free Speech. Coulter isn't being prosecuted by the government. She has the right to say what she wants, and others have the right to complain, boycott, or whatever. It wasn't a Free Speech issue when Freepers boycotted the Dixie Chicks, and it isn't a Free Speech issue now."
I'll tell you what is a problem though, and that's the media jumping on the bandwagon and using their power to attack Coulter. The media still have influence, and they still use it for evil.
We ridicule the DUers when they post stuff about the Dixie Chicks having their "freedom of speech" taken away by all those "right wing haters".
How are we supposed to respond when we have folks the right using the same ridiculous argument?
She can say whatever she wants, and the papers are free to run her columns or not. It's obviously not a free speech issue.
Ever heard of Michael Savage?
"First Schlesinger now Coulter. It seems the conservative white women are the only ones willing to risk anything to stop the homo/race pimp/liberal agenda. Why are white men so unwilling to do what they have done?"
That is my point as well. If Bush/Frist/Hastert et.al. had half the spine of these two ladies, we wouldn't have lost the last election. Reid and Pelosi don't hold back, nor any of the Dems.
I'll take that as a compliment.
And back to reality....she told a joke. She didn't really call anybody anything.
I seem to remember he (Savage) did stand up for himself on the homo issue on TV but another problem with that is that White Men cannot maintain their credibility with the general public. White Men are seen as the problem, the threat, and the evil among the masses. Your average Oprah watcher could never conceive of the types of things this group of people has done for humanity.
Eventually when White men are removed from doing anything in society and branded officially dangerous, then society will implode. I thinks there is lots o'money in rebuilding a society that has been destroyed by stupidheads.
Pardon my buffoonery ;)
>>And back to reality....she told a joke. She didn't really call anybody anything.<<
Exactly! If I said, "I can think of a few names to call Hillary, but Joe got sent to rehab for calling someone a cracker." that doesn't mean I am calling her a cracker.
A lot of people fail to notice what she actually said.
Likewise, in Hillary's campaign announcement, she did not actually say she is running. I am waiting for that to come back to haunt everyone when it becomes clear she cannot win the nomination.
That may be a problem, but it's still not a Free Speech issue.
"That may be a problem, but it's still not a Free Speech issue."
It can very quickly become one, with the media grooming the public to sit still for laws that ban speech that the left doesn't like.
It's a South Park thing.
New episode that aired on Wed, will probably be shown again on Sat.
Why all the frenzy over name calling, mean-spirited rhetoric, and such?
They know that Hillary is dirty and they want a general agreement before the election gets going that will negate all talk of Hillary's shenanigans past, present, and future.
More proof that something is definitely up (to no good). Why else would a Clinonista (Begala?) have a new book decrying the insulting language of both sides -- even going so far as to feign disappointment with his Rat Party? I've heard interviews on the radio but I cannot remember the author.
Come to think of it, Atlas was a White Guy wasn't he?
Supposedly, bipartisan government is a scale depended from a point won in open debate; while this may sound good in theory, what we have seen since about 1960 is an ever-increasing set of restrictions on the terms of the debate get mostly hung on the liberal side of the string until the scale has now become weighted to one side only and it turns into a dredge being dragged through the sludge.
The only reason this country hasn't become a Democrat bulldozer is that once every few years the string breaks and the swamp settles back in.
I know - I was trying to respond in South Park fashion! (Sheila Broslofski)
Thanks for the pic. :) Although we've never even met, I love that gal! She's strong, independent, assertive, determined, smart, truthful, articulate, witty, charming and one downright hot babe! lol If I were 20 years younger... LOL
There's no there, there.
This is convincing proof of how the mass media can manipulate the (unthinking and unquestioning) masses to believe anything they want them to believe.
It's just another test of their waning power to control the public dialogue. Obviously, there's more than a few not falling for it -- and those are the ones who make a difference in the world -- the increasing more that can see right through them and their manipulations.
Good work, people.
It's time for them to drag out Jimmy Carter with his latest inanity -- or Helen Thomas with her latest love psalm to George Bush. Don't you just love that twist of rage that contorts liberal's faces when they are seen through as the hate- and fear-mongers they are?
Eventually, those looks become permanently embedded into their faces. (No pictures, please.)
"If those laws come up, then it's a Free Speech issue. If the media expresses an opinion about something, it may be repugnant, but again, it's not a Free Speech issue. This Ann Coulter flap has absolutley nothing to do with Free Speech."
I love ignorance parading as authority.
Freedom of speech is the concept of the inherent human right to voice one's opinion publicly without fear of censorship or punishment.
That doesn't mean that the only limits to free speech can come from the United States government -- which is prohibited by the US Constitution from doing the same.
There are plenty of other ways in which "free speech" can be limited or punished apart from the US government -- or any government.
Ever hear of the Spanish Inquisition? The Hayes Code? Political correctness?
Hell yeah it's a free speech issue. Coulter's joke was about how political correctness is destroying free speech.
Call someone a schoolyard taunt, and you have to go into rehab or lose your job -- even your career.
And of course her joke has been proved highly accurate by the response it has gotten -- from boneheads like you.
Wake the hell up.
They never get it! Ever.
We know their modus operandi.