To: Sam Hill
Freedom of speech is the concept of the inherent human right to voice one's opinion publicly without fear of censorship or punishment.
Well, if you look at it like that, sure. I was referring to Freedom of Speech as defined by American law, not the overall concept. Which means that it's the the concept of the inherent human right to voice one's opinion publicly without fear of censorship or punishment from the government. Any other punishment - losing her job, losing her credibiliy, whatever, has nothing to do with the government. And therefore, as far as I'm concerned, has nothing to do with Free Speech. Again, I am looking at it from a legal point of view - otherwise, you could just as easily say that the Dixie Chicks were denied Free Speech rights by Clear Channel.
And of course her joke has been proved highly accurate by the response it has gotten -- from boneheads like you.
Nice insult. When all else fails, resort to ad hominem, huh? It's a shame you can't debate in a civilized manner, but hey, there you are. If JR decides to ban you from the forum (I didn't complain, btw) for inappropriate posting, it wouldn't be a Free Speech issue either. Maybe you can point to the response that I gave that makes her joke "proved highly accurate." How about it? Hint: She can say what she likes. People can choose to hire her if they like. The government isn't enforcing political correctness - so again, it's not a Free Speech issue.
To: Stone Mountain
I missed your reply earlier. And it is probably a waste of time to respond to you at all.
But, let's just take one highly relevant instance of someone being deprived of their right to freedom of speech -- and not by the government.
I give you Isaiah Washington. Mr. Washington faced losing his job -- and for all intents and purposes his entire acting career -- because of something he said.
If you don't think that Mr. Washington wasn't being deprived of his right to free speech, then that phrase has no meaning.
And, irony of ironies, you are trying to do pretty much the same thing to Ann Coulter for mocking the utter injustice and insanity of PC run amuck.
What a world.
posted on 03/09/2007 6:24:28 PM PST
by Sam Hill
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