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Dimwits: Why 'green' lightbulbs aren't the answer to global warming
The Daily Mail ^ | 13th March 2007 | CHRISTOPHER BOOKER

Posted on 03/14/2007 5:08:22 PM PDT by fanfan

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CFLs cannot be used with dimmer switches

There is a 5 1/2" CFL which can be dimmed.

1 posted on 03/14/2007 5:08:23 PM PDT by fanfan
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To: xcamel

Ping


2 posted on 03/14/2007 5:09:33 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

LED lightbulbs are the answer, but they're several years away from being practical.


3 posted on 03/14/2007 5:09:59 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: fanfan

This is Socialism folks. Learn to hate it, despise it, spit upon it if you don't already.


4 posted on 03/14/2007 5:10:33 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked)
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To: flashbunny
LED lightbulbs are the answer, but they're several years away from being practical.

I agree. The light from LEDs is getting whiter and brighter.

CFLs are very much like the betamax of their time.

5 posted on 03/14/2007 5:17:19 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: vpintheak; Gabz; traviskicks
This is Socialism folks. Learn to hate it, despise it, spit upon it if you don't already.

I already do. ;-)

Ping!

6 posted on 03/14/2007 5:19:38 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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I have some of those CFL light bulbs. I never thought about global warming at all when I bought them. I do not care about global warming.


7 posted on 03/14/2007 5:23:08 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (America: Land of the sheep, home of the slaves.)
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CFLs are very much like the betamax of their time.

There are applications where fluorescents make sense. There are other applications where incandescents make more sense. For other applications, sodium lamps, arc lamps, or other technologies may be more appropriate.

8 posted on 03/14/2007 5:26:53 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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I have some of those CFL light bulbs. I never thought about global warming at all when I bought them. I do not care about global warming.

I have some too.

They suck, IMHO.

I bought them because they were supposed to use less energy, which would save me money, and because it was better for the environment.
Now that I've read this article I realize the suns-a-bees fooled me!

I do care about global warming. I hope the globe stays warm.

:-)

9 posted on 03/14/2007 5:29:03 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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"I have some of those CFL light bulbs. I never thought about global warming at all when I bought them."

Me either. I have a 12' high ceiling fan I got tired of changing light bulbs in.


10 posted on 03/14/2007 5:32:08 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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"Now that I've read this article I realize the suns-a-bees fooled me!"

Yeah, lighting your home is generally not the expensive part of your electric bill anyway. With CFL some folks are tempted to buy larger wattage bulbs as well. Best I could tell the savings would be negligible.


11 posted on 03/14/2007 5:36:34 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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" mad musical-chairs of gesture politics "

And guess who's gonna end up standing all the time?
Standing in that dump full of mercury.


12 posted on 03/14/2007 5:38:18 PM PDT by Son House ( The Presidents enemies, are my enemies.)
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To: fanfan

I've changed over virtually every bulb in our home and cottage to these bulbs. I think they are great and we have had a substantial drop in our electric bills...which is why I put them in. They also last much much longer than the old bulbs. It is true that they take a few seconds to come up to full lumens, but you get used to that.

By the way, there are a number of varieties which will work with dimmers.

The EU regulations are the usual socialist crap one expects from Eurocrats, however. If someone told me I had to use these bulbs, I'd go buy all the old ones I could find, but that's just me (I suspect that will be the attitude in Greece. When the government says "yes", the Greeks tend to say "no" on general principle!).


13 posted on 03/14/2007 5:38:46 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: fanfan

Luckily we use 110VAC @60hz instead of the 220VAC @ 50hz they use. Less flicker noticable from the bulbs.

I use them around the house. The 5000K temp bulbs though since soft white looks so horrible. It saves a little energy and lets me stick more wattage in a fixture to make a room brighter.


14 posted on 03/14/2007 5:41:24 PM PDT by Bogey78O (VDSL2 FTW)
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"CFLs are very much like the betamax of their time."

Weren't beta players technically superior to vhs?

To me CFL's are like going from 8 tracks to cassette, instead of going all the way to CD's. They're an improvement but not the greatest thing out there. But the best thing needs time to develop and come down in price first.


15 posted on 03/14/2007 5:41:35 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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About 12 years ago when I could first buy the CFL's that fit in my lamps and wall sockets. I replaced all the bulbs in my house. There was an immediate $10 a month reduction in my electric bill, and the bulbs lasted about 5 times as long as my incandescent bulbs. I figure I saved at least $1200 the first ten years. Now that Home Depot has the really inexpensive ones, I probably save even more.

A few years ago I became interested in a different way to save energy which was very doable and survivalist friendly. That is using straw bale construction for house building. Although vehicle energy uses about 25% of our energy. House and building demolition, construction and heating and cooling use something like 50% of our energy. The British estimate that house heating and cooling uses about 28% of their energy. Thus saving energy with the right housing is more efficient than saving vehicle energy.

We have got to stop making the Arabs rich at our expense. There is lots of interesing info on Straw Bale Construction on line. If you are interested you can also click my article on the subject at
http://ecobusinesslinks.com/straw_bale/straw_bale_solar_sustainable_development.htm


16 posted on 03/14/2007 5:43:18 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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From what I read of the article, the author is an uneducated idiot. JMHO.


17 posted on 03/14/2007 5:44:23 PM PDT by patton (In spit of it all...)
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Where the warm cuddles are
The light travels slower
As it shifts down to yellow


18 posted on 03/14/2007 5:47:13 PM PDT by leda (The quiet girl on the stairs.)
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yep! lol!

yer stalking me ;)


19 posted on 03/14/2007 5:48:35 PM PDT by leda (The quiet girl on the stairs.)
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20 posted on 03/14/2007 5:49:33 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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