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They made my son's 5th grade science class watch "An Inconvenient Truth Today"

Posted on 03/22/2007 9:48:42 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown

I've been a member for awhile but this is the first time I've ever started a thread. This is a vanity, so one of the mods can move it if I've put it in the wrong classification.

My son is a student a Cheat Lake Middle School in Morgantown, West Virginia. For the last several weeks, he has come home saying that his teacher frequently takes time out of class to discuss his personal views on global warming. Today, he said they took two hours out of class to watch Al Gore's pseudoscience documentary "An Inconvenient Truth". I was absolutely stunned.

I have heard of several controversies where they've shown in in public high schools, but I cannot believe that they would show this to 5th graders. There wasn't even a word of advance notice to parents.

I've tried to contact the school's Principal and the the local newspaper. I'm at a loss as to how proceed from here to draw some attention and outrage, and would welcome advice from fellow freepers.


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To: CaptainMorgantown

I remember when I told my Dad that my lazy civics teacher showed us "world at war", he muttered: "don't believe that commie tripe", this coming from a man that tried on at least 3 occasions to join up during WW2 while he was way too young (joined the Army in 47 at 17).


51 posted on 03/22/2007 11:17:18 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Talk to your child. Ask questions, find out what he's being taught and educate yourself or find experts in areas that you're not familiar with to counter any indoctrination. 'The Global Warming Swindle' is an excellent film. Look at this as an opportunity to teach your child how to think for himself.


52 posted on 03/22/2007 11:39:54 PM PDT by fellowpatriot
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Hey Algore!

The planet IS sick.

It DOES have a fever!

It's a symptom of LIBERALISM, and I would stick the thermometer in WASHINGTON DC where there no shortage of A$$hole$ like YOU!!!


53 posted on 03/22/2007 11:41:51 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Calpernia; metmom

ping


54 posted on 03/23/2007 12:01:50 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
Demand that the kids be also shown the following video that presents the other side of the story, and make a big stink about it...
 
A must view
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=roy+beck&hl=en

55 posted on 03/23/2007 12:02:17 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
I've tried to contact the school's Principal

And the principal has not called you back ASAP? I would be calling the school board superintendent. If the principal doesn't return my call with an hour I call back and say if I don't get a call back I will be calling the superintendent about the problem I have. I guess I am at the top of the nutty parent list because I have gotten through even when she is in a meeting. I refuse to give permission for my child to see any movie that I have not signed a permission slip for. It is working so far for me.....
56 posted on 03/23/2007 12:08:25 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
Send your information to the various Conservative talkshow hosts. Public exposure of propagandizing teachers is probably the most effective way to dissuade them (as a group) from improperly forcing their political agenda on their students.
57 posted on 03/23/2007 12:11:58 AM PDT by wodinoneeye
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To: CaptainMorgantown

I can imagine the national outrage if a teacher dared show "Nativity Story" or any movie that was positive toward Christianity.

I think it would be interesting if some parents hijacked a classroom and had them watch "The Jesus Film". I'd imagine that a lot of people here would be poo-pooing such an act.

Liberals will win because they play with a different rulebook.


58 posted on 03/23/2007 12:14:51 AM PDT by dan1123
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Make the needed calls, school board, etc., but keep trying to get some type of discussion going using the opinion section of your local newspapaer.


59 posted on 03/23/2007 12:26:09 AM PDT by The Wall
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To: Yaelle

The movie "Happy Feet" is also animated environmental porn. It is put together in a slick way so that kids will enjoy it, but it slams industry.

I'm sure more will start popping up.


60 posted on 03/23/2007 12:38:52 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Ha ha ha. My daughter's geography teacher declined to show it (even though teachers in districts beside ours do). She said it was too "political" and there were a few "errors". Even so, she's a global warming believer.

My daughter has been printing off the "deniers" articles from the National Post, as well as other scientific "skeptic" articles and anonymously leaving them on the teacher's desk. After about 5 of these, the teacher went back to geography, and hasn't been talking about global warming. But if she ever does, my daughter will be anonymous no more, and she'll come out fighting ... she's not usually a quiet one. This has been fun for her so far.


61 posted on 03/23/2007 12:46:57 AM PDT by lkco
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To: CaptainMorgantown

What's the difference, showing that film or teaching evolution? They have been lying to our kids for years.


62 posted on 03/23/2007 3:17:52 AM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

I was going to post the same thing. I have 2 sons in HS, although their teachers are very conservative, they have come home once in a while and told me about some stupid comment. We talk about the other point of view. Sure you can insulate your child but eventually they go out in the world. Instead you can give them the knowledge and tools to stand up the the stupidity. Everyone talks about indoctination, I suppose if you just sit back and let the school do it all that will happen. If you take an active interest and talk to your kids and let them know that no matter what you are the boss, they understand.


63 posted on 03/23/2007 3:31:30 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: panthermom

What you said was true. You have to talk to them and find out what they're being taught, then present "truth" in place of false info.

We homeschooled, but did the dual credit route once our son was in the 10th grade. So although he never went to high school, he went full time to community college starting when he was 15.

I do think that most of his profs at the CC were pretty fair and balanced. Even if they were "liberal"...they encouraged student debate. His Government prof was ex-military and a hard core Republican...so he riled up the liberal students.

But still we talked about what he was learning and actually we were glad he was home during those first "college courses" because we could "deprogram" any of the false info he was getting.


64 posted on 03/23/2007 3:55:47 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: CaptainMorgantown; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; SideoutFred; ...


FReepmail me to get on or off
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown


grrrr...
65 posted on 03/23/2007 4:17:13 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

You may have already done this, but the first thing I would do would be to make sure my son knows where the flaws and assumptions of that film are and give him liberty to bring that up in class.


66 posted on 03/23/2007 4:20:31 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: dawn53

My boys go to public school and I have been fine with it. I will tell you most of the teachers live right here in the community and send their children there as well. We have a small community that is very conservative, alot of parental involvement in the schools etc., so our schools reflect our values. My boys tell me stories about their teachers that I think are hysterical, a liberal would have a stroke. One of my son's teachers recently used an example in vocabulary and said "you would never use liberal and intelligent in the same sentance." The kids thought it was funny.


67 posted on 03/23/2007 4:28:26 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
It's being shown on cable now too. I thought I would watch it...know your enemy and all that...I couldn't get past the cartoon at the beginning. Childish crap.
68 posted on 03/23/2007 4:51:16 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (Global Emergency!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; BlackElk; blu; cgk; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the "other" articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles.
69 posted on 03/23/2007 4:56:29 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Screamname
Well gee whiz, 40 years later and I`m still waiting to see someone suffocate.

Anyone in particular?

70 posted on 03/23/2007 4:59:35 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (Global Emergency!)
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To: bnelson44; CaptainMorgantown

Precisely. This kind of teacher indoctrination crap pisses me off.


71 posted on 03/23/2007 5:01:35 AM PDT by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Schools are nothing more than places for indocrination in the leftist dogma.


72 posted on 03/23/2007 5:05:24 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: CaptainMorgantown

I agree with several here - don't underestimate your influence as a parent. We live in ultra-liberal Oregon and my high-school son has had many-a-day since elementary school where he had to listen to senseless dribble from his teachers. We've always discussed these things at home and, most of all, taught him critical thinking. Teachers come and go, but you'll always be their parent - they actually DO listen to you, even as a teen (contrary to popular belief).

Oh, and definitely show him the "Great Global Warming Swindle"!! My son and I watched it a while ago - he loved it and has used some of the information there to refute and educate his brainwashed friends.

Hold strong!


73 posted on 03/23/2007 5:24:11 AM PDT by momfirst
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To: CaptainMorgantown

*Insist* to the administration that the kids also watch 'The Global Warming Swindle' documentary from the BBC.


74 posted on 03/23/2007 5:25:36 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

I think one thing we can learn from the opposition is they are determined. We know in warfare, the enemy sets the rules. So, you need to be as determined and persistent in this as they are. The opposition is determined and persistent. Keep calling and keep showing up. I know this will require time and trouble on your part. But this is where the rubber meets the road for all of us. We would all rather just go to the beach or eat a good meal and just watch TV. But,, we can't. If we are going to change this insanity, it is time we start putting in some real hours in this crusade. There are liberal nutcases with the brain the size of a peanut trying to steal our children. How much time are our children worth?? Expose to the community what they have done. Demand they show the UK film " The Great Global Warming Swindle." Find how they can get access to the film. There will be others in your community that will help you. There are always others, but don't expect them all to applaud you. Assume the community and your friends will think you are the crazy one and then maybe it will be all up from there. Most of these libs are really just cowards. Honestly,, these libs have gotten where they are not because they are so full of courage or better fighters,, I really believe they have been able to advance so much just because we have let them. Persistence and determination will help us all a great deal.


75 posted on 03/23/2007 5:27:00 AM PDT by freemike
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To: CaptainMorgantown
See if you can't find a meteorologist somewhere (the NWS) who is not a global warming believer and maybe you could suggest to the teacher that a REAL meteorologist speak on global warming. The meteorologists I've spoken to at the NWS do not support the current hysteria over global warming. As a matter of fact, when I brought the issue up with some of them, they went ballistic. It was a real hot button issue for them.

Any meteorologist worth their salt will tell you that no one knows for sure what the outcome of warming would be. Yeah, it MIGHT cause a gradual increase in sea level, maybe. But it also might cause an increase in cloud cover which would block some of the insolation and cool it back to present levels.

For most of earth's history, the planet has been much warmer than it is now. Right now we're in a cooler than average spell. We're not *warming*; we're just going back to normal.
76 posted on 03/23/2007 5:51:12 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Bookmark Bump


78 posted on 03/23/2007 6:20:04 AM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: Dick Bachert; CaptainMorgantown

I appluad this person for staying on the front lines of the battle and not running in retreat like you suggest.

Captain- just make some noise. Any noise. Leave messages for the principle and teacher. See if you can find any other parents who agree with you.

Basically- just call them on it. Make it known that there are some parents who are more concerned with truth than with strange propaganda.


79 posted on 03/23/2007 6:32:54 AM PDT by getitright (Liberalism is irresponsible.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Pull your kid out. They get money for having him there. Hit them in the pocketbooks AND save your kid. God only knows what other garbage he is ingesting. Talk to other parents; have them boycott the school. This is done to YOUR child with the taxpayers' money. The School Board is elected.


80 posted on 03/23/2007 6:47:12 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: momfirst
I called the school today to ask if it was going to be shown in my child's school. I wanted the Principal but I got someone else who asked why I was calling . I explained my concern over the movie and the fact it had no value in being shown as it terrifies children. I was assured it will not be shown. I think that office must think I am a nut but I feel much better. Maybe they are getting used to my constant calls...lmao
81 posted on 03/23/2007 10:02:30 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
Morgantown, West Virginia.

A University town. There's problem #1.

82 posted on 03/23/2007 6:06:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Yaelle

Perhaps a wicked suggestion here...but if a smart video guy...were to take Al's film...and take 98 percent of the content out and add alot of fake bogus accusations (like cows contribute 80 percent of the methane to the world, with horses contributing 22 percent and finally people contributing 12 percent...someone might actually sit there and realize that you can't have 114 percent). Then you remarket the video as Inconvent Truth Number Two. You have a Al impersonator, who goes around and just says..."ACCEPT the truth!"

I'll bet we can sell 500k copies within two months and clear $1.5 million easily as personal profit.


83 posted on 03/24/2007 12:14:15 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: CaptainMorgantown
It's a science class. It was a bit inappropriate, because the matter is over their heads. It's also over the teacher's head, and was only presented for political indoctrination purposes. The effect of GW for the near future is too small. Since the average temp of the Earth is ~15oC, and another degree won't matter, of course ice will melt.

I doubt any of the kids can grasp, equipartition of energy, conservation of energy, response surfaces, and the gas law. W/o that, they couldn't grasp the watermellon show. I doubt very much the science teach explained that the temp increase is insignificant, and the effect on the weather is also. It amounts to a 0.35% increase in energy available to all weather systems at the most, in the year 2060. That's nothing.

84 posted on 03/24/2007 10:35:51 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Michael.SF.
I saw it on a 12 hour flight to Germany, what can I say, I was bored.

It was like watching a Freshman lecture hall presentation, but w/o the opportunity to scope out the room for potential, IYKWIM.

No cuties on that whole plane? But of course the law of averages would place a lot more Grandpas and kids on the flight than in your lecture hall. LOL.

85 posted on 03/24/2007 11:54:16 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle; CaptainMorgantown
Have any of you seen Gore's film?

My 20-something son talked me into seeing it with him recently. It was interesting. The only part that I felt was really over the top was the polar bear scene. Before I watched the movie I felt that there is data suggesting that global warming could be a real phenomenon, but that it hasn't yet been proven that it is a terrible crisis and that proponents are making predictions that have not been supported scientifically. That is the same way I felt after the movie.

The central points made by Gore in the film centered on a graph showing the temperature and CO2 for the last 650,000 years. The fact that these two variables have risen and fallen together over this whole period is very suggestive, but as I recall the film does not answer the question of whether it has been shown that the temperature depends on the CO2 and not the other way around.

Also Gore makes a big point to show how much higher the CO2 is now than it has been at any time over the last 650,000 years. This is true but after watching the film I wondered if Gore had not exaggerated the amount of increase somewhat by not having the bottom of the graph correspond to zero CO2. I would have to see this part of the film again check if he did this.

Basically I would have no problem with older students watching the film as long as there was some classroom discussion of how the data might be interpreted in other ways. There is nothing wrong with provoking thought and discussion. I would be concerned about younger students being shown the film, or if it was not presented with discussion of alternative interpretations and the reasons why some people are skeptical.

To my thinking it would obviously be wrong to somehow prevent young people from seeing the graph presently by Gore as I don't think the actual measurements are in question. Of course the graph could be presented without the movie.

One thing I did like about the movie was that the graphics were presented in an attractive way that might get young people more interested in a discussion of scientific data.

86 posted on 03/24/2007 12:43:02 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: CaptainMorgantown
I've tried to contact the school's Principal and the the local newspaper.

You say you've "tried to contact" but you word it as though you were unsuccessful. My goodness, you sound so helpless. My heart goes out to you in your hour of sorrow. My deepest sympathies.

87 posted on 03/24/2007 7:25:17 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: wideminded
I’d really like to find a still of that graph. I think what Al Gore says about it and what it actually shows are two different things.
88 posted on 04/03/2007 2:59:05 PM PDT by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace! (Bacon bits make great confetti.))
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To: CaptainMorgantown
I've tried to contact the school's Principal and the the local newspaper.

Principals, by and large, are like HR departments . . . they exist to shore up the status quo. As such, they almost never answer phone calls or e-mails. The best way to talk to your child's principal is to do it in person.
89 posted on 04/03/2007 3:02:03 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
Sue them for equal time to air this rebuttal that aired on British TV a month ago.

The Great Global Warming Swindle


BUMP

90 posted on 04/03/2007 3:06:41 PM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
BTW here's where you can purchase the DVD when it comes out in the UK. Beware it probably will be in PAL (Europe) instead of NTSC (USA) format. Some DVD players like Phillips can play both formats.

The DVD


BUMP

91 posted on 04/03/2007 3:18:32 PM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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