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Let me repeat (from the article):

"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said.

1 posted on 03/25/2007 11:44:13 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat is basically identical with Hillary Clinton," Curry said.
2 posted on 03/25/2007 11:46:33 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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A candidate that can beat any democrat is ESSENTIAL


3 posted on 03/25/2007 11:46:41 AM PDT by tkathy
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"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said.

I won't be joining anybody voting for Rudy.

For any reason.

4 posted on 03/25/2007 11:47:57 AM PDT by TomServo ("Jim Henson's Flying Leatherneck Babies!")
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Pro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE OF GIULIANI'S LEFT-WING POLITICAL POSITIONS

6 posted on 03/25/2007 11:48:48 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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(and outlines his positions)


15 posted on 03/25/2007 12:05:57 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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Giuliani knows that the has to campaign early and hard, because his positions and his ACTIONS are becoming increasingly well known.

The more conservatives and Republicans know about Rudy, the worse he looks.


17 posted on 03/25/2007 12:11:14 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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I'll sit it out. I won't be joining anybody voting for Rudy. For any reason. The box on my ballot would stay blank. If it's a choice between hillary or rudy, my choice will be "none of the above". I don't vote for gun grabbing liberals,no matter what letter is next to their name. I also will not give money to the GOP or volunteer any campaign work that promotes Rudy. Giuliani knows that the has to campaign early and hard, because his positions and his ACTIONS are becoming increasingly well known. The more conservatives and Republicans know about Rudy, the worse he looks. n major social issues Rino Rudy is no different the Hitlary. He is a flaming liberal who I will never vote for.
People are getting to know Rudy, to his detriment.
22 posted on 03/25/2007 12:17:27 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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I think Hillary is beatable. She is beatable if we can find a candidate that will gain momentum from all conservatives.

That is not Rudy. I have family and friends who have already stated they will not vote for Rudy.

This is what bodes bad for the party.

Hillary is not that formidable. I am starting to doubt she will even get the nomination.

So cut this silliness out that if we do not vote Rudy, we are voting for Hillary.

When something does not work, quit using it and come up with a new line.


23 posted on 03/25/2007 12:18:03 PM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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Were it not for Rudy being the Mayor of NYC on 9/11, his presidential aspirations would already have been dismissed and he would have been laughed off the national stage as a lightweight.

He gave a good speech at the '04 GOP convention, and he talks a lot o' tough talk on the threat of Islamofascism.

That and a $1.25 will get you a big cup o' coffee.


24 posted on 03/25/2007 12:19:10 PM PDT by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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Did you see this? The evangelicals are getting it; I'll say an extra prayer of thanks today that the evangelicals on FR don't represent the real world.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1806462/posts


26 posted on 03/25/2007 12:20:02 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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when his full position is shown, Thompson will have the exact same position on immigration that Rudy is expressing here.


27 posted on 03/25/2007 12:21:57 PM PDT by oceanview
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""Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said."

Not to rip on Mayor Giuliani, but that eerily sounds like James Carville in '05 when he stated Democrats would come together behind one candidate to beat George W. Bush (in '06).

28 posted on 03/25/2007 12:24:19 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said.

If anyone thinks a party can be a majority run by scaring voters into voting against the opposition, that person is a fool. One is also a fool if one doesn't believe the nomination of a RINO will do anything but convince millions to stay home, vote for a third-party candidate and/or result in a reduction donations and complete lack of enthusiasm for the party.

32 posted on 03/25/2007 12:27:20 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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but he could support a guest worker program if there were adequate border security and tamper-proof ID cards. He said that even if illegal immigrants "can demonstrate that they are lawful, that they are paying taxes [and] that they'll pay penalties," they still shouldn't be put ahead of people who go through legal channels.

Conclusion: Rudy supports amnesty.

(1) A guest-worker program is putting the cart before the horse, and besides, the entire system needs to be overhauled

(2) "Adequate" border security sounds a lot like "virtual wall" promoted by the Bush admin and Dim Congress

(3) His statement that "even if illegal immigrants can demonstrate..." means that those illegals will still be permitted to enter the country at the end despite the fact of having broken the law to begin with

(4) His record as NYC Mayor showcased his disregard for our nation's immigration laws

Rudy is a liberal, there's no sugar-coating it, the man is a liberal, and smart conservatives aren't going to vote for him in the primaries and I don't care if you Rudybots drag out the Hillary card.

Go Hillary! Let's get that Universal Healthcare going! Take all my income for the poor and minorities yeah baby!

44 posted on 03/25/2007 12:48:19 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remember, don't shoot food!)
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"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said.

The reason you Rudy folks keep saying "only Rudy can beat Hillary" is because you're trying to distract others from the fact that, when compared to the other Republican candidates, Rudy looks just like the liberal he is.

So you stand him next to an even more liberal liberal, Hillary.

And then you repeat "the mantra". It's all you have.

But we are not fooled by the deception.

85 posted on 03/25/2007 1:59:39 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Combat Tested Vietnam Veteran! DUNCAN HUNTER !!)
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Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani led off with his strongest card, his terrorism-fighting credentials, before touching on healthcare, immigration and energy policy in a speech to a welcoming crowd Saturday.

I hope it's OK to discuss the information in the article.

What has Rudy done to make "terrorism-fighting" one of his strongest cards?

Sure, he threw Arafat out of a theater once, but that hardly qualifies as fighting terrorism.

What has Rudy done to fight terrorism? We know what he did after terrorists attacked his city for the 2nd time. He reacted well to a terrorist attack, but he did nothing to fight the terrorists.

127 posted on 03/25/2007 3:28:15 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Is there anyone left in Newport Beach that speaks ENGLISH?


138 posted on 03/25/2007 4:00:26 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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Let me repeat (from the article):
"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said.

LET ME REPEAT... HE IS NO DIFFERENT!


140 posted on 03/25/2007 4:04:27 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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"Nothing will unite the Republicans more than a candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton," Curry said.

I thoroughly grant that, at a time when Hillary Clinton is not campaigning, Rudy Giuliani can probably outpoll her. I fail to see how that justifies claims that he can beat her.

At this stage of the game, winning 2 percentage points worth of moderates for every percentage point of the base that is lost might seem like a good deal, but what's going to happen once the Democrats go into campaign mode? They're going to win back many of the moderates who were momentarily captured by the leftward run. Even if the Democrats only recapture half of the moderates, that would still leave the GOP with nothing to show for its leftward run. So why bother?

156 posted on 03/25/2007 4:38:05 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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You're assuming Hillary will be the nominee. I don't think she will. I think it will be Obama.


166 posted on 03/25/2007 4:47:50 PM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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