Posted on 03/26/2007 1:25:49 PM PDT by NYC Republican
Sorry .. it's true. Liberals love to paint conservatives as being ignorant, stupid, obtuse, mindless, irrational and, on occasion, retarded. For the most part leftists use this "stupid" tactic in order to avoid actually having to intellectually engage with someone who thinks differently than they. After all ... you really don't have to consider the opinions offered by someone who disagrees with you if you can successfully and falsely brand them as ignorant.
Sadly ... many conservatives seem to have dedicated their lives to lending credence to the left's "conservatives are idiots" claim. You will remember several weeks ago I told you about one Georgia Republican (former Democrat) legislator whose campaign chairman sent out some memos and letters promoting legislation to outlaw the teaching of evolution in government schools. The letter referred the reader to the website of "The Fair Education Foundation, Inc." In this website --- and I'm not kidding you here --- you will learn that the Earth stands still in space ... not even rotating ... while the Sun and everything in the universe rotates around the earth every 24 hours. Think I'm kidding? Check it our for yourself.
Well .. there's more. Sunday's Atlanta Journal-Constitution tells us about another website, this one run by Andrew Schlafly, the son of Phyllis Schlafly. Conservapedia pushes the creationism theme with revelations that dinosaurs and humans roamed the Earth at the same time.[video] You'll also learn that atheism has led to a large increase in bestiality. But once again you'll learn that not only is the Earth standing still, but it's actually flat ... and sitting still in space while everything revolves around it.
Tell me .. how do you counter the "conservatives are ignorant" argument, and how do you manage to recruit more people to the cause of lower taxes, less government and more individual responsibility when you have people running around loose calling themselves conservatives, getting elected to office as conservatives, and running websites as conservatives all the while telling us that the earth does not spin on its axis and does not revolve around the Sun .. and that everything in the known universe revolves around the Earth?
If true conservatives really want to expand their philosophy and mount a sustained movement that just might save individualism, freedom and economic liberty --- they had better jettison these zealot nut-cases .... and FAST.
This all sure makes me glad to be a Libertarian.
Yes. But is he wrong? Being shameless is one thing, being wrong quite something else.
Boortz finds it easy to smear consewrvatism by pointing to a couple of 'strained gnats' ... Boortz would sacrifice the nation if there was a chance that Libertarians could come to power; he has that in common with the democrats, BTW.
The Sioux now live in the Dakotas. They didn't use to.
The Sauk and Fox tribes originally lived along the St. Lawrence, moving to what is now WI around 1700.
The Pueblo Indians of New Mexico apparently are descended from the Anasazi who lived farther north and west.
The Navajo and Apache are related to the Cree and other Athabaskan tribes of Canada.
The Tuscarora left North Carolina after 1715 and moved to New York, becoming the sixth Nation of the Iroquous.
Many other tribes migrated long distances.
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No wonder they think we're idiots.
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Good point.
But their beliefs are treated with respect.
I have no problem with refusing to allow creationism to replace more scientific theories. My problem is that I see no reason why we must deride the sincere beliefs of others.
"Don’t present tribal creation stories as “myths” or “legends.”"
"Don’t teach the Bering Strait theory as fact. Using the term, “most scientists believe,” is fine, but also present the fact that most tribal histories place them in their traditional locations and this is also a valid “theory.”"
Could similar respect be given to those who believe the Bible stories?
I have to disagree. I listened to his rant this morning and felt he was making a mountain out of a molehill. There can't be more than a few people who believe in a flat earth, etc. I am nearly 70 years old and have travelled the U.S. for decades. I have worked around people of almost every walk of life. A large majority of these people consider themselves Christians. Many of my friends and acquaintances are what you could call "devout Christians." Never in my life have I heard anyone I have come in contact with express the beliefs presented on these web sites. Never in my life have I ever heard any Christian express support for a theocracy. Boortz sounded to me like an angry atheist just trying to work up something over nothing.
I notice the man will not allow anyone to bring up abortion on his talk show, but he sure did today. I suppose if a woman is raped, it is the resulting baby's fault and it deserves to be killed. At least Boortz thinks so.
Which attacks are those? Is this the whole CREVO thing? If so, sorry... not interested.
They are idiots, which is the one thing they have in common with liberals.
Conservatives are fatter and lazier now (as liberals were in the post-New Deal era), because they haven't had to be as trim and focused as they needed to be in the Cold War era. It's not a permanent problem, but things will get worse before they start getting better.
And, no, libertarians aren't immune to the things that effect liberals and conservatives and everyone else. You've only got to visit lewrockwell.com to realize that they have their own lunatic fringe.
Lol. Oh, please. So you believe that around the time the constitution was written THEN the amerinds somehow appeared on this continent?
I think you've had enough tea for today, Buzz...
Have you followed the Cre-Evo threads on FR over the years?
Yeah, but unlike Liberals, only a very few Conservatives are nutjobs.
stupidity knows no boundries or... dumbasses on both sides.
Liberals think conservatives are idiots because liberals only understand feeeeeelings. Conservatives generally base their opinions on facts, and liberals don't have the foggiest idea how to process that.
Yes, when he believed he needed the Southern Christians who had lost their power base and joined the Republican Party, which of course didn't help his image of a mainstream conservative.
I assume you are aware of his change of beliefs toward extremism as he grew older? Perhaps in his earlier days, it was "any port in a storm".
Those inbread conservatives! They can't even count to ten. They can count up to five on their right hand but when it comes to counting on the left, they can't stomach anything that has to do with the left.
/sarcasm.
It makes it easier for them (meaning those who like to believe they operate solely on logic and science) to justify disbelief in their own minds if they can marginalize those who adhere to the Christian faith. Thankfully, not all who do not adhere to the Christian faith behave that way.
>>>"... you will learn that the Earth stands still in space ... not even rotating ... while the Sun and everything in the universe rotates around the earth every 24 hours."<<<
I read this somewhere else a long time ago. I believe it was in one of the Apocrypha.
>>>I wonder what things would look like if it were true.<<<
It is theoretically possible. But the sun would be required to circle the earth at (PI*D = 292 million miles/day * 1 day/24 hours =) 12.17 million miles per hour. And the sun is extremely close to us, cosmologically speaking. The nearest star, which is about 4 light years away (or about 23.5 trillion miles if my math is correct), would be circling at speeds of about 3 trillion miles per hour. Think of the speed required for the most distant objects that are billions of light years away.
I have to go with the "earth revolving around the sun" theory.
There, fixed it. I have literally never met one of these fixed earth types and very few Flintstoners, but I encounter Moon Landing denialists and 9-11 "truthers" practically every day.
jettison these zealot nut-cases
AMEN, just give us your votes and keep your crackpot theories to yourself.
REMEMBER flat-earthers...science is a creation of the LORD...
Sarcasm is wasted on Freepers
Einstein was right, except that there is no gravity reaching across space. Rather, everything is getting BIGGER, by about one-one-millionth of its size every second. This causes things that are moving to slowly to expand into each other. It also creates the orbital effect.
Of course, objects in motion move naturally in curvilinear paths, and only move in straight lines (relative to a fixed observation point) if energy is continuously applied to them to force them to move straight. Cease adding the energy, and they resume their curvilinear movement.
Lib stupidity and pseudoscience are less commonly recognized as such because they are institutionally approved:
Professional Person of Teach: "Ok, Antjuan, define the word 'catastrophe' for us."
Larval Consumer Unit: "That's like, uh, when a nuke melts up, er, down, and tears the O-Zone and all the other zones get hot and the polar bears, like, drown."
PPOT: "Excellent, you are very bright for an 18 year old. Your internship at MoveOn.org will be approved in no time."
"Splitter!"
What has happened is that the GOP turned into the God Squad and as a result the whacko fringe found a voice when it came to social and religious issues.
It also says the sun [gasp] RISES! This means the Bible teaches the earth is FLAT! Oh the horror of those obscurantist fundamentalists!
God save us from wingnuts who are religious and stupid and content to remain so...., and from pompous asses who think they know something and are hell bent to show themselves just as stupid as those they purport to mock.
Naw. The sad truth, son, is that we got lotsa dumbasses over here. Good people, lots of em, but stupid as dirt sometimes.
Yes, I'm aware of not just his "moderation", but his move away from anything that could be called conservatism. Perhaps marrying a leftist 30 years his junior had something to do with that "progression".
heh heh.
It's not all about money, NYC.
So I Boortz also opposed to rebuilding the Jerusalem Temple? Does that endanger his precious tax cuts?
"inbred". However, I once joked with a leftist friend of mine that it was a physiological impossibility for me to turn left in my car, but had to make a series of three right hand turns. He thought that was lots funnier than my Hillary jokes.
It is possible to be wrong. :p
Guess he had to save all his passion for....Oh well, never mind.
"I think Conservatism can withstand the presence of two flat-earthers in our midst."
Get a roomful of deep ecologists together, and they'll tell you that the earth is a living organism that punishes man for his transgressions against Gaia. Rats have a patent on moonbats and turn them out by the thousands in the crazy factory.
One important difference between open borders Libertarians and open borders Republicans is that at least the open borders Libertarians oppose any sort of welfare or government funded benefits for the illegals.
Boortz wasn't alone in saying it wouldn't matter if the dems took over the congress and senate.
No doubt these a$$es are happy now. Betrayed the troops, betrayed the country, our allies and the civilized world that counts on America being strong!
Disdain and disgust is the understatement of all time....to describe how I feel about this elite knowitalls.
Many conservatives make themselves look very bad with not much help from the usual suspects in the MSM and the dominant media culture. The alarming thing is the strange, self satisfied tone they adopt after they make themselves look stupid.
It happens.
True, but they would be less right.
In a fair and just world, yes. But after the hostile media gets through with its broad brush, we will all be known as flat earthers.
I do, too. I just refer that they approach things in a scientific way, rather than insist something is wrong because their interpretation of their invisible friend in the sky says so.
Has nothing at all to do with your original statement. Carbon dating has placed American natives arrival back about 14,000 to 20,000 years. Since they were hunter gathers one assume that they move around the country.
Man, just think about that for a minute. If it did, you'd be spending half your time just hanging on, trying to keep from falling off.
Since there are already 141 posts, I'll bet someone already said it but...
The truth is some idiots are conservatives.
Not true.
Boortz is way out in Left Field wrt creationism, homo promo and abortion, but has it right on just about everything else. HHC's husband.
This is a nuance that is very valid, but lost to many, many people. I see all sorts of strange things on FR now and then, and I have to wonder what in the heck they have to do with being conservative. Often, the answer is 'nothing.'
Pretty much where I am.
Congrats...!!
Hehheh. But LCU's are too young to be in school. This one would be a PCU: a Pupal Consumer Unit.
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