Posted on 03/29/2007 5:12:09 PM PDT by Dubya
The anchor baby clause of the 14th amendment needs to be repealed before any work visas are handed out.
NO AMENSTY. NO "GUEST WORKERS".
Illegal invaders should be denied jobs and benefits and most of them will leave. If they are apprehended, they should be deported.
If we need more immigrants, raise the immigration quotas across the board for LEGAL immigrants and give ALL nations a crack at the American Dream - we don't owe Mexico anything - not one tortilla. The ruling class there created a mess by monopolizing wealth and power in the hands of the few and they should have to deal with the consequences - not us.
Dubya doesn't get it.
I love it. Once again this makes GWB's WOT a complete farce.
These people should retire now and start their second career on Comedy Central.
Yea, let's TTTTRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY to make our borders secure.
Yeah sure.
Pssst! I got a hot stock you should sink all your assets and your life savings into!
No Really!
Trust me! /hype
I have something to float by the White House, the look like Baby Ruth candy bars.
Well, let's float this...NO Amnesty.
Build the wall !!!
You bet, they only need to fool enough conservatives into thinking they're moving to the right just long enough to get their scam into conference committee where Bush and Kennedy can then write the bill they really want.
We don't need any new legislation, that's the whole point. They just need to enforce the current laws but since that's not going to happen it is insulting to everyone's intelligence that they're now pretending that if we only give them their amnesty this time they really really will in the future. Where have we heard that one before?
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They just need to enforce the current laws but since that's not going to happen it is insulting to everyone's intelligence that they're now pretending that if we only give them their amnesty this time they really really will in the future. Where have we heard that one before?
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So you are one of those that does not believe any laws will be enforced. Period. Full stop. No caveats. No moderation. Your hardline position is that you do not believe any immigration laws will be enforced.
You therefore should have no interest in new legislation, regardless of what it says.
If you DO believe laws will be enforced, then you must begin from that position in evaluating anything new that is proposed.
You can't have this both ways. Either you believe laws will be enforced, or you don't. There is no middle ground here.
Actually, #1 might be an effective compromise, though something tells me it'll disappear in committee. Is there anything in this bill about employers? The last amnesty bill was really amnesty for crooked US employers, though there wasn't much note of that in the press.
I agree, somewhat. The proposal is worth evaluating.
The folks here taking the position that no proposal whatsoever can be evaluated because no laws will ever be enforced are in an inconsistent position and they need to resolve it. They either believe laws will be enforced, or they do not.
If not, then they should have nothing to say about new legislation beyond a statement of disinterest since new legislation will never go into effect.
If they DO think laws will be enforced, then they are obligated to discuss and offer modification to what looks to me to be a solid approach to punishing people who have committed a crime. There is nothing in this proposal that relaxes current laws for anyone who does not register in the system.
You got that right. Any candidate who has not addressed that is not serious about immigration reform. And that leaves most of 'em out.
20 million guest workers with jackpot babies. Woohoo!! They are NEVER going home. Don't forget chain migration, the can bring in then entire clan.
AP doesn't mention if the plan would require that they wait in the quota line when applying for a green card.
Not sure the 14th amendment says what you think it says.
Anybody who didn't vote for the 25 pro-fence seats we previously held in the house is a fool.
You're right, I don't. And until they make an honest, consistent effort to enforce the laws and where it isn't done with any political motivation as is currently the case then I hope no one else does either.
No one who has been paying attention to the Bush administration should believe a new immigration law will be enforced.
Enforce the current law (it's the President's constitutional duty), and then ask us to believe you'll enforce a new immigration law. And, as a good faith gesture, how about seeing that the 700-mile fence that we've been promised is actually funded and built??
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