Skip to comments.Giuliani: Consider More Offshore Oil
Posted on 04/04/2007 6:11:50 PM PDT by FairOpinion
Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani on Wednesday said everything has to be considered if the United States wants to break its reliance on foreign oil, including more drilling off Florida's coast.
Calling the energy supply a major domestic problem, Giuliani said the nation needs to focus on nuclear power production and renewable energy sources. In the meantime it also needs to see what oil can be tapped, he said.
"Energy independence means everything has to be open for discussion," Giuliani said when asked about offshore drilling. "The idea of having more oil under our command, so to speak, or within our orbit probably for some period of time is going to be important. The ultimate goal, however, should be renewable sources of energy."
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Only an idiot would vote for Giuliani.
Your opinion and 4.00 bucks will buy a cup of coffee at Starbucks. I could say the same about voting for a loser like Duncan Hunter.
So if Guiliani is considering "Too", what prevents him from considering Not "Too"?
Kerry tried to play both side of the fence through both sides of his mouth also.
Why can't Guiliani just say "YES" I support drilling?
I want direct answers to direct questions, not "we'll see".
Hunter served in one of the most dangerous assignments in Vietnam, while Rudy was hiding under his desk at law school.
Repeating very slowly again — this thread is about energy independence,
Anybody have a "Beating a Dead Horse" picture? This line of argument has officially expired.
He’s right on this one. Too bad he’s wrong on so many other issues. He would make an EXCELLENT senator from New Jersey.
The “personally opposed” line is used by all pro-choice politicians. It’s a contradiction in terms.
“I personally oppose murder, but I support your right to choose it.”
Not really so good-looking when you put it that way.
Truth doesn’t expire. Too bad, that when you see it, you step over it, and keep going.
...the debate on the existence of global warming "is almost unnecessary ... because we should be dealing with pollution anyway."
Certainly we should use technology to design stuff and engage in activity that has minimal pollution impact.
Neither liberals nor conservatives prefer to see their air before breathing it.
This thread is about energy independence.
Please point out which part of RG’s stance on energy independence you disagree with and why.
There’s really nothing for me to comment on, as I don’t disagree. More nuclear power? Yes. Drilling offshore? Yes.
Not enough to offset his other faults, however, of which there are many.
I was just replying to your one particular post that dealt with Rudy’s stance on abortion.
Failed "Interpersonal Relations 101" in college, eh?
In case you haven’t noticed, this thread is about energy independence, not Rudy. sarc.
Rudy supports Global Warming? Hmm...must be a very small group. Just how does one support global warming?
Indeed, why not? The poster's original objectionable comment reminds me of someone who posted to me on FR that Rudy should sign copies of his "Leadership" book with aborted baby's blood. If this was a cocktail party, and someone made such an offensive comment to me, I'd consider it highly boorish behavior and just walk away.
Looks like someone’s going to have four (at least) bad years in store!
Comprehensive reform really is needed. Deregulation and expansion of nuclear energy, freer license to extract natural resources, AND research into renewable energy, high density energy storage, higher fidelity energy transmission, and safer radioactive waste disposal (not for global warming BS or to save owls/trees/mosses/rare beetles, but in the hopes of mitigating the asinine diplomatic games played with Islamic theocratic thugs and tinpot dictators elsewhere, as well as, in the longer term, increasing the competitiveness of domestic industry by reducing energy costs).
This idea by Rudy is right on. We should leave no stone unturned when it comes to exploring and utilizing our own resources. This goes for the coasts of Florida, the coast of California, and the entire state of Alaska. Not utilizing our own resources is the equivalent of a thirsty man refusing to drink water from his own well. I hope Rudy does run on this. It has never been tested, so afraid are we of the dems.
Thanks for the ping.
As a Duncan Hunter supporter I am choosing not to engage in debate on this Rudy Giuliani thread on Free Republic. As a freeper I am disappointed that there are fans of a liberal presidential candidate trying to push socially liberal views on this socially conservative forum. In particular, I have noticed that the Rudy G fans do not answer posts questioning the qualitative substance of their candidate, or the posts are met merely with insults. And in short, I have noticed that rudy followers are simply rude.
Hildebeast is eminently beatable, this nonsense about rudy being the only one who can beat her is horse manure and impolite on this socon forum. For example, this article:
“Long Shot GOP Candidate Brownback Just Five Points Behind Clinton”
We know that it simply means it’s very early in the race and that even no-name candidates are only 5 points behind Clinton. So the rudybots should stop supporting a social liberal on this social conservative forum and pick a real winner, rather than a ridiculous loser liberal like rudy.
The 2 polls on Free Republic put forth an obvious SOCON (only Hunter fits that description given) versus a SOLIB (it certainly fits rudy).
Rudy splits the base.
I have noticed time and again that rudy supporters rudely send up the false dilemma of “who would you vote for, Hildebeast or Rudy”. This particularly impolite at this early of a point in the primary cycle. Since this is a socon forum (not even a GOP forum), it is very impolite to ask double-bind questions, especially this early in the race.
Since team rudy is so fond of its own false dilemma, I would expect them to answer this false dilemma.
My contention: If rudy gets the nomination, he splits the base, possibly splits the republican party, and loses the election.
Rudy followers contention: If Hunter gets it, he wins the base and loses the election.
Hypothetical to answer the rudy followers hypothetical. Both sides losing to Hillary.
Side A: The solib republican splits the base. The MSM turns on him the moment he is nominated. Hillary wins. Republican party is split.
Side B: The socon republican wins the nomination, loses to hildebeast in a tough fight. Republicans are united against the hillary presidency.
Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?
Win-Win false dilemma:
Side A: Solib wins presidency by ignoring the socon base and permanently splitting the republican party.
Side B: SoCon wins presidency by (obviously) relying on the socon base.
Which candidate is best for the republican party, Side A or Side B?
Regardless of who wins or loses, Free Republic and the republican party is better off with Duncan Hunter than Rudy as the candidate. This social liberal candidate is simply not healthy for the republican party nor for FR. And rudy followers are proving to be very impolite freepers.
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Posted on 03/13/2007 10:11:39 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
Sam has been answering questions, unlike the crickets we hear on rudy threads.
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Thats why socons are signing petitions such as this one:
Rudy Giuliani is an unacceptable Republican nominee for President of the United States. He is pro-abortion, pro-partial birth abortion, pro-registration of handguns, and pro-homosexual rights. He is the most liberal Republican candidate for President in our nations history.
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Rudolf Giuliani explaining his liberal views:
Rudolf Giuliani explaining his position on abortion:
Rudolf Giuliani dressed as female:
Interview with gay couple Rudolf Giuliani lived with when Sept 11th occurred:
Ban on Partial Birth Abortions:
No, I do not support that (a ban on partial birth abortion), and I do not see my position on that changing.
There must be public funding of abortion for poor women. We cannot deny any woman the right to make her own decision about abortion because she lacks resources. I have also stated that I disagree with Presidents Bushs veto for public funding of abortion.
There is not a Mayor or Public Official in this country who is more pro-immigrant than I am.
I am in favor of gun control
You know I am in favor of that (registration of all hand guns)
I support domestic partnership legislation and I signed it.
I am a big supporter of McCain-Feingold and have been for a long time
Frankly, I would like to run on all the lines. The liberal line, the conservative line, I would like to run on the Democratic line if I could figure out how to do it.
“In case you havenât noticed, this thread is about energy independence, not Rudy. sarc.”
I can’t even say “nice try” — it’s more like a pathetic try.
It’s about Rudy’s stance on energy independence and that he had the courage to come out and support offshore drilling and nuclear energy.
He is also scaring the Dems, which is a good thing.
Giuliani Puts Democrats On Defensive
“You have to be on offense against terrorists,” Giuliani told the crowd. “Before Sept. 11, we were playing defense.”
If a Democrat wins the election, “we’ll be right back playing defense because that’s what the Democrats are doing,” he said.
I wish someone would have promoted these issues years ago. Way to go, Rudy!
I think Rudy’s time has come — we need someone non-PC who is not afraid to do the right thing and is effective.
As much as I agree with Rudy, it won’t happen. The senate is...well, not respectable.
I was just watching Olliver North on H&C and he said that as long as we are dependent on ME oil, we are at their mercy. That’s why it’s critical to become independent NOW, not 100 years from now, if, when, possibly, maybe some of the alternative energies become viable. Once we are independent, the ME can’t hold us hostage over oil — energy independence is critical for national security.
Well, if Rudy wins with a landslide, he’ll have coattails, Republicans may recapture Congress, and with his leadership, he may stiffen the backbones of the Republicans in Congress and actually get things done.
Short of that, he can at least veto the Dems most damaging bills, stopping them from destroying the country.
Well, how about the words of no less than Supreme Court Chief Justice John G. Roberts (as "conservative" a nominee as Bush might have picked), who, at his confirmation hearing, said that as far as he was concerned, Roe v. Wade was "settled law"....
It's pathetic and obscene that Castro and the ChiComs and Hugo Diablo can drill off Florida but the polluting Yanquis can't.
Ditto that since Jane Fonda and Jack Lemmon and Michael Douglas and Wilford Brimley in China Syndrome (1979) showed we'll all die if an ant farts in a nuclear plant we can't build any.
Nor any refineries.
And we must have forty formulae so they're always in short supply hence terribly expensive.
Rudy will cut through this epic Leftist propaganda and git er done.
He's not "new tone" about this or anything.
I tell you the toughest fight would be Rudy versus Al Gore Fights To Save His Planet.
We're just a few Happy Meals from that happening.
Just the way Rudy didn’t let the PC crowd keep him from cleaning up NYC, he won’t let them keep him from making the US energy independent — a huge contribution to our national security and economy.
Those of us with meaningful degrees don't take fag classes like that.
I’d gouge my eyeballs out with broken off plastic sporks before i ever took political analysis from you.
Are you assuming that they'd feel better if they were raped by someone of the same race?
Isn’t the Persian Gulf international waters? We should drill right in the middle of it.
Simple. Giuliani's position on global warming is not well known.
But it will be.
I’ll answer your hypothetical question.. NO! I would never vote for a Democrat in a million years. The Dem party has become the party of George Soros and a contingent of Socialist’s/Marxist’s like Hillary Clinton. No way. But I will vote for Rudy Giuliani or any candidate who wins the Republican nomination.
By all means build new nuke plants. Do some research on fusion, too, although there is plenty of fusion going on in that bright thing in the sky if we could tap into that. My uranium mine company could use some fresh customers but is doing just fine anyway.
Add my thanks too. Keep up the good work, areafiftyone and keep your sense of humor. You need it for some of these clowns.
Not really. It was from my failed effort to instill some common sense in you anti-Rudy types.
Common sense is not voting for a liberal on the Republian ticket.
I am anything but a Rudy fan (and, for the record, it’s his gun-grabbing ways more than the abortion/gay rights issues that turn me off) but...
Giving credit where credit is due, Rudy is dead-on spot with the issue of expanded drilling for our own oil supply.
Further, anyone who doesn’t think we should explore alternative sources of energy (bio-diesel, being one)is off their rocker.
BREAKING NEWS: Not being a right-wing zealot is not being liberal. To win the Republican party needs to be a big tent to attract conservatives, moderates, independent and Reagan democrats. That is common sense.
The original topic had nothing to do with abortion.
That's important info to remember during this primary season when the group that some have termed "right wing zealots" pound Rudy and pound Rudy on an issue that is, in effect, already settled. This just tears apart the whole Republican party and also drives indies and Dems away from voting Republican.
And now the zealots are hammering Rudy on supporting public funding for abortions. He's said he hates abortion and wishes women wouldn't have them. If abortion is legal and a certain state's law permits public funding, then the Prez as a federale can't interfere. It's that simple.
We should focus on the key issues of lower taxes, fiscal responsibility, and our nation's security. If the primary process refuses to allow Americans to focus on those issues, then it's proper for states like CA to move up their primaries so their people have a voice, instead of allowing states like South Carolina to decide the race by keying in on the most right wing conservative positions and destroying good candidates who don't fall in lockstep with those positions, thereby making the rest of the country, who has no voice, suffer the results.
That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
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