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Meet MOP, Boeing's new bunker-busting super-bomb
Seattle Times ^ | 4-5-07 | Tom Brown

Posted on 04/05/2007 11:17:57 AM PDT by NavyCanDo

As U.S. concern about the nuclear ambitions of North Korea and Iran have grown, weapons designers have been working on bombs capable of destroying those countries' underground nuclear sites.

Some nuclear facilities in both countries are believed to be buried deep, so U.S. designers — including some from Boeing — are developing a new class of bombs for plowing through hundreds of feet of earth and concrete before detonating.

The latest of these weapons is the MOP — short for Massive Ordnance Penetrator — built by Boeing's Advanced Systems unit in St. Louis. The 20-foot-long bomb that weighs 30,000 pounds — much heavier than the 21,000-pound MOAB, or Massive Ordnance Air Burst bomb, unveiled in the prelude to the Iraq war. The MOAB was designed by the Air Force Research Lab and is built at the McAlester Army Ammunition Plant in Oklahoma.

The MOP is an unusual bomb in that more than 80 percent of its 15 tons is in its casing, while it carries only 5,300 pounds of explosive payload

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boeing
Ahhhhhhhhhh the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.
1 posted on 04/05/2007 11:17:58 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

It’s MOAB on Viagra. And it’s got a stiffy for you Iran.


2 posted on 04/05/2007 11:19:20 AM PDT by Sax
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To: NavyCanDo

I have one of these


3 posted on 04/05/2007 11:20:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: NavyCanDo

Wasn’t the MOAB dropped out of the back of a cargo plane? And wasn’t it equipped with a chute?

My word, how does the USAF deliver something as large as the MOP?

Kah-Booooooommmmm!!! Sounds like one super-duper uppercut.


4 posted on 04/05/2007 11:21:59 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Broad-minded is just another way of saying a fellow is too lazy to form an opinion." Will Rogers)
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To: AppyPappy

A stiffy or a bomb?


5 posted on 04/05/2007 11:22:26 AM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSA Blalock-USS Ramage DDG61 Currently Deployed)
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To: Sax

Yeah, but will it stop road side bombs?


6 posted on 04/05/2007 11:22:27 AM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: RexBeach

I read it is intended that this new bomb will be deployed on either a B-2.1 or B-52 bomber.


7 posted on 04/05/2007 11:24:07 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: NavyCanDo

"Boeing's Massive Ordnance Penetrator is prepared March 14 for a test at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico in this photo by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency. The 30,000-pound bomb, which would be the heaviest in the U.S. arsenal, is designed to penetrate deeply buried targets."

8 posted on 04/05/2007 11:24:58 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: NavyCanDo

Disguise it as an asteroid and drop it from such a high altitude that the islamofacists in Iran would never believe it was something done by the “Great Satan”. It would have to be judgment from Allah for their indidelity.


9 posted on 04/05/2007 11:27:19 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Go Rudy Go! (And take McCain with you!))
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To: zarf

Nope, you’re looking for the new Swiss Army Bomb, it can estabilish civil order and stand up a replacement military.


10 posted on 04/05/2007 11:27:21 AM PDT by Sax
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To: Brad Cloven

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/tallboy2.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/dshtw.htm&h=550&w=755&sz=50&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=znnN6Xg3MwBLpM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=142&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMassive%2BOrdnance%2BPenetrator%2B%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

11 posted on 04/05/2007 11:27:57 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: zarf

Milk shakes or Kleenex or Gucci leather or red herrings won’t stop IEDs either. Should we be against them? Do you have a point? Or is the point and purpose of this weapon lost on you?


12 posted on 04/05/2007 11:29:10 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: RexBeach
Wasn’t the MOAB dropped out of the back of a cargo plane? And wasn’t it equipped with a chute?

You're thinking of the "Daisy Cutter", originally designed for clearing out jungle for helicopter LZs:


13 posted on 04/05/2007 11:29:49 AM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: zarf
Yeah, but will it stop road side bombs?

It will if we drop a few on the Iranian Parliament and Presidential Palace....
14 posted on 04/05/2007 11:31:54 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: NavyCanDo

Enough news releases, use the thing!


15 posted on 04/05/2007 11:31:55 AM PDT by G-Bear (Religiously, five times a day, I turn my back on Mecca and fart!)
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To: Yossarian

MOAB is also dropped from a cargo plane.


16 posted on 04/05/2007 11:32:37 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Brad Cloven
"Boeing's Massive Ordnance Penetrator is prepared March 14 for a test at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico in this photo by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency. The 30,000-pound bomb, which would be the heaviest in the U.S. arsenal, is designed to penetrate deeply buried targets."

Why not test it on the Afgan/Pakistan border?

17 posted on 04/05/2007 11:34:35 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: zarf
Yeah, but will it stop road side bombs?

As a matter of fact, I do believe that dropping these in the proper places in Iran WOULD stop road side bombs in Iraq.

18 posted on 04/05/2007 11:43:49 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: NavyCanDo

Ah mennnnn’


19 posted on 04/05/2007 11:44:37 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: Yossarian

the MOAB was dropped out of a bigger plane, like a C-5A or a C-141 I think.


20 posted on 04/05/2007 11:46:07 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: NavyCanDo

I love the glow of ordnance in the morning .... :)


21 posted on 04/05/2007 11:55:27 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: NavyCanDo

This is a racist name!

The Moops are the Moors who invaded Spain in the 8th century.

This thing is the Moop-Buster.

Too funny.


22 posted on 04/05/2007 12:09:41 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: mgc1122

The size of Boeing’s MOP presents a delivery challenge. There are only two planes in service that could deliver the bomb against significant air defense, the Northrop Grumman B-2 stealth bomber, which would have to be modified, and Boeing’s aging B-52.


23 posted on 04/05/2007 12:12:47 PM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: VRWCmember

Other concepts under study include:

Lockheed Martin’s Kinetic Energy Cavity Penetrator Weapon, which would rely on a phenomenon called “terradynamic cavitation” to drastically reduce drag as the bomb rips through earth and concrete to its target.

The Deep Digger, would sport a 7-barrel rapid-fire cannon in its nosecone that in theory would pulverize earth and concrete in its path as it burrows into the earth. Its developers speculate that a synchronized array of 20 Deep Diggers could produce an artificial earthquake that could collapse tunnels and other underground facilities. The Digger is a joint project from several weapons developers, including designer ARTEC.


24 posted on 04/05/2007 12:15:32 PM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: Armedanddangerous

Google MOAB


25 posted on 04/05/2007 12:35:03 PM PDT by Jambe
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To: frithguild

Load it in a B-2, go in at night, naturally, they can’t see it coming, they can’t see it leave, then deny all knowledge. Must have been a large meteorite.


26 posted on 04/05/2007 12:49:40 PM PDT by kachina
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To: zarf
Yeah, but will it stop road side bombs?

Yes.

27 posted on 04/05/2007 12:50:43 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

R-A-G-G H-E-A-D Ragg Mopp


28 posted on 04/05/2007 12:57:15 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: NavyCanDo

amazing... the video animation is a must to watch.


29 posted on 04/05/2007 12:58:45 PM PDT by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: null and void

MOP up the right set of ragheads with it, and the roadside bombs will go away.

I think the right set of ragheads is not located in Iraq ...


30 posted on 04/05/2007 1:00:12 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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Looking at the picture on post #8, you would think that it would have a more pointed front for penetration


31 posted on 04/05/2007 1:06:06 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: NavyCanDo
"Meet MOP, Boeing's new bunker-busting super-bomb "

MOP = Massive Ordinance for Persia.

32 posted on 04/05/2007 1:11:48 PM PDT by peekingfromabox
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To: NavyCanDo
This might be a dumb question.

If people work underground in these “bunkers”....and people generally require some kind of air to breath....wouldn't it just be easier to lob a few conventional 500 pounders down the air shaft / ventilation system?

Or after we secure the area.... get a whopping tank of HALON and pipe it in, displacing all the breathable air?

.....just a thought.

33 posted on 04/05/2007 1:22:25 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: NavyCanDo
... while it carries ONLY 5,300 pounds of explosive payload.

This is the upgrade to the Boeing J DAM it is called the O DAM .

34 posted on 04/05/2007 1:32:24 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free!)
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To: taxed2death

The shafts have multiple bends and offsets as well as blast shutters to keep the shock wave from propagating all the way to the habitable areas.

I like the Halon idea.

More fun with unodorized propane, though...


35 posted on 04/05/2007 1:42:49 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: missnry
This is the upgrade to the Boeing J DAM it is called the O DAM .

LOL!!! Best post of the day!

36 posted on 04/05/2007 1:45:11 PM PDT by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: missnry

Hmmmmm, Ground Opening Deep Direct Attack Munition, Non-nuclear?


37 posted on 04/05/2007 1:51:12 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: RebelBanker

See mine...


38 posted on 04/05/2007 1:51:54 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: null and void

Walk into a market in Gaza during evening shopping and drop a vial of ebola.

When the first person starts to cough, yell EPIDEMIC! and seal the borders.

Give Iran a wink and a nod.

Nukes will be gone within a month.


39 posted on 04/05/2007 1:56:30 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: null and void

The Mills Brothers covered by the USAF, Ragg Head Mop.

Number one with a bullet.


40 posted on 04/05/2007 7:19:05 PM PDT by Hilltop (?)
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To: RexBeach
My word, how does the USAF deliver something as large as the MOP?

Anyone?

41 posted on 04/05/2007 7:26:38 PM PDT by GOPJ (Good judgment's often the child of bad judgment.)
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To: NavyCanDo

Do you still have to count to Five?


42 posted on 04/05/2007 7:30:52 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: Brad Cloven

I want one, will they go direct to the consumer?


43 posted on 04/05/2007 7:34:27 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: taxed2death

Halon is no longer available and has been replace with FM200. CO2 or CO are cheaper and more readily available.


44 posted on 04/05/2007 7:35:27 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: GOPJ
It looks as though it would fit in a B2. The B2 has a payload of 20 tons so it could probably do the trick.
45 posted on 04/05/2007 7:41:18 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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