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Romney, self-described lifelong hunter, has hunted on two occasions
Associated Press ^ | 4/04/2007 | Glen Johnson

Posted on 04/05/2007 12:47:51 PM PDT by mrhansen

BOSTON - To hear Mitt Romney talk on the campaign trail, you might think the Republican presidential candidate had a gun rack in the back of his pickup truck.

"I purchased a gun when I was a young man. I've been a hunter pretty much all my life," he said this week in Keene, N.H., to a man sporting a National Rifle Association cap.

Yet the former Massachusetts governor's hunting experience is limited to two trips at the bookends of his 60 years: as a 15-year-old, when he hunted rabbits with his cousins on a ranch in Idaho, and last year, when he shot quail on a fenced game preserve in Georgia.

Last year's trip was an outing with major donors to the Republican Governors Association, which Romney headed at the time.

An aide said Wednesday that Romney was not trying to mislead anyone, although he confirmed Romney had been hunting only on those occasions in his life.

"Governor Romney's support for the Second Amendment doesn't come from the fact he knows how to handle a firearm; it comes from his appreciation of the Constitution and the rights enshrined in it, including the right to keep and bear arms," said campaign spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom.

He went on to cite the pro-gun measures Romney signed into law while serving as governor from 2003 to this past January.

Romney himself made several of the same points to the Keene audience, while also trying to offer some perspective on his hunting experience.

"I support the Second Amendment," he told the man who had asked about his views on the constitutional right to bear arms. "I purchased a gun when I was a young man. I've been a hunter pretty much all my life. I've never really shot anything terribly big. I used to hunt rabbits."

Romney added: "Shooting a rabbit with a single-shot .22 is pretty hard, and after watching me try for a couple of weeks, (my cousins) said, 'We'll slip you the semiautomatic. You'll do better with that.' And I sure did."

On the Georgia excursion, he said, "I knocked quite a few birds and enjoyed myself a great deal."

Expressing familiarity with and support for gun rights is key among Republican presidential contenders, who count gun owners, members of the military and the NRA itself among their potential supporters.

It helps explain why Romney joined the NRA last August, signing up not just as a supporter but a designated "Lifetime" member, and why he has softened his gun control positions.

Romney told a Derry, N.H., audience, "I'm after the NRA's endorsement. I'm not sure they'll give it to me. I hope they will. I also joined because if I'm going to ask for their endorsement, they're going to ask for mine."

During a 1994 U.S. Senate campaign, Romney positioned himself as a moderate outsider, warning special interest groups to stay out of the race and saying he supported the Brady gun control law and a ban on assault rifles.

"That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA," he told the Boston Herald at the time. "I don't line up with a lot of special interest groups."

It's a theme he carried into his 2002 gubernatorial campaign. At the time, Romney pledged to do nothing to change the state's firearms statutes.

"We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts. I support them. I won't chip away at them. I believe they protect us and provide for our safety," he said.

True to his word, Romney went on to sign one of the toughest assault weapons laws in the country.

Romney, though, also took steps to protect the rights of gun owners as governor.

The assault weapons ban won the backing of Massachusetts gun owners in part because it included provisions extending the term of a firearms identification card and a license to carry weapons from four to six years. It also created a Firearm License Review Board to provide an appeals process for people whose license applications had been denied.

In 2006, Romney also signed NRA-backed legislation creating exemptions for the makers of customized target pistols who had found it too expensive to sell their guns in Massachusetts because of a state regulation requiring them to test at least five examples of new products "until destruction."

In February, Romney was touting such measures as he and his wife, Ann, toured the Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor Trade Show in Orlando, Fla., with Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's executive vice president.

"I'm proud to be among the many decent, law-abiding men and women who safely use firearms," Romney said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antigun; banglist; firearms; guns; hillarywithgoodteeth; hitpiece; hunting; outdoors; romney; third; willnotvotefor; wolfinsheepsclothing; youfellforit
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To: mrhansen

He’s not even a HINO.


51 posted on 04/05/2007 1:17:10 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: mrhansen

“Maybe one of his wives”

He’s the only one in the top 3 or 4 pubbies who has only had one wife.

Play fair.


52 posted on 04/05/2007 1:17:17 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: mrhansen

Unless Thompson actually does get into the race (he is tens of millions down right now, at this very second) Romney is the “best” of a bad bunch of republicans who have raised the cash to run in 08.

Hunter is better, but he also may not be viable enough to win.


53 posted on 04/05/2007 1:18:12 PM PDT by padre35 (I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
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To: DBrow
I long for the day when we never has to use weapons again!

Oh dear what will the gunnuts do?

54 posted on 04/05/2007 1:18:23 PM PDT by restornu (Accept Nothing Until It Is Verified)
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To: Williams

The guy has hunted and strongly supports the Second Amendment.


You’re battin’ .500 there, pal.


55 posted on 04/05/2007 1:18:40 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: mrhansen

Stupid issue. I don’t hunt much at all, but would call myself a lifelong hunter. If somebody tried to take my guns, they are going to have a bit of trouble.


56 posted on 04/05/2007 1:19:58 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked)
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To: mrhansen

Add this to all the other stuff he’s backpedaling from... what are this guys core values? I don’t need a candidate who practices political taqiyya. It’s not that he’s a hunter or not a hunter, as if that had anything to do with the 2nd Amendment; its that he stretches the truth like another clown from Massachusetts. Who wants to have to check up on their candidate as if he were a kid who couldn’t be trusted to tell the truth. This guy is bad news.


57 posted on 04/05/2007 1:20:05 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: keepitreal

You are correctomundo!


58 posted on 04/05/2007 1:20:38 PM PDT by JRochelle (RudymccaINrOmney)
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To: mrhansen

If Zumbo wants to do some good, he could write to Romney and explain that the term “assault weapon” was invented by anti-gunners in order to outlaw military-looking semi-automatic firearms. Romney is not only anti-gun, he is ignorant.


59 posted on 04/05/2007 1:20:40 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Beelzebubba

“No, but they’re easier to aim!”

Aiming is independent of action type and you know it! That’s why Romney’s statement is bogus.

If you can draw a bead on a squirrel noggin with a semi, you can do it with a bolt, pump, or belt-fed 10-22.

The National Match Rifle course was originally set up for bolt action.


60 posted on 04/05/2007 1:20:42 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow
"Yes, and I know the NRA does not support an assault weapon ban. So I don’t line up on that particular issue with the NRA...

But I’m a strong proponent of Second Amendment rights.

Romney wants to ban semi-automatic firearms, but supports the Second Amendment.

Excuse me, while I throw up.

61 posted on 04/05/2007 1:21:07 PM PDT by holymoly (With an anti-gun Congress, we must have a pro-gun President. www.gohunter08.com)
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To: mrhansen

I don’t need a hunter for president; that’s taken as shorthand for “reg’lar guy, not some dork. Guy you can have a beer with and talk about NASCAR or football.” It’s nice for a politician who genuinely can say he or even she enjoys hunting. Not NECESSARY at all, though.

HOWEVER, no one likes a phony. This here smacks of Al Gore- like “resume padding.”


62 posted on 04/05/2007 1:23:28 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: mrhansen

Wasn’t Kerry an avid goose hunter? once


63 posted on 04/05/2007 1:24:02 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: mrhansen
I am a lifelong member of the NRA and have never been hunting. Is there something wrong with that?
64 posted on 04/05/2007 1:24:35 PM PDT by msnimje (True Conservatives will not support a pro-abortion candidate.)
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To: restornu

What is your point?


65 posted on 04/05/2007 1:24:59 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: DBrow

I meant the “easier to aim” comment as sarcasm, pointing out the absurdity of Mitt’s claim.

Sorry it wasn’t very clear.


66 posted on 04/05/2007 1:26:23 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: msnimje

Do you support the Assault Weapons Ban? Do you support banning semi-automatic firearms?


67 posted on 04/05/2007 1:26:47 PM PDT by mrhansen
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To: P-40

Anyone who doesn’t go around murdering animals on a regular basis and then claims he does, does not get my vote. He clearly doesn’t know when he is well off. I am a pro-gun person, my house is filled with guns, but none of them is ever used to murder animals. NRA member also.


68 posted on 04/05/2007 1:27:15 PM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: mrhansen
I am curious, how many times to you have to go hunting and how many times to be an acceptable "lifelong" hunter to you?

My Grandmother was lifelong Republican who only votes twice, about 30 years apart. Was she not a life-long Republican to you?
69 posted on 04/05/2007 1:29:43 PM PDT by msnimje (True Conservatives will not support a pro-abortion candidate.)
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To: P-40

And this means what in terms of his qualifications?


70 posted on 04/05/2007 1:30:55 PM PDT by O6ret
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To: mrhansen

2 hunts makes a lifelong hunter? That must make me immortal!

Free immortality for everyone on the BangList!


71 posted on 04/05/2007 1:31:09 PM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: mrhansen

Romney’s hunted twice and calls himself a hunter? In that case, I’m twice the hunter Romney is - and I don’t consider myself a hunter.

Who does Mitt think he’s fooling? Most pro-gunners know that the right to gun ownership, at its core, has nothing to do with hunting.

Don’t own a gun. Don’t want one. But, to me, the 2nd Amendment is locked in stone and is never to be violated.


72 posted on 04/05/2007 1:31:31 PM PDT by DangerDanger
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To: P-40

hunting has nothing to do with the second amendment. I remember Bubba Clinton making a pre-election statement to the effect that he wouldn’t do anything to take away “your right to hunt”. (of course, there isn’t any such right).


73 posted on 04/05/2007 1:37:59 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: mrhansen
"I purchased a gun when I was a young man. I've been a hunter pretty much all my life," he said this week in Keene, N.H., to a man sporting a National Rifle Association cap.

Why couldn't he have just said "Hi, I'm running for office and will say whatever it is you want me to say"?

74 posted on 04/05/2007 1:38:58 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: restornu

Speaking of small IQ’s, when you learn to form a proper sentence and use punctuation I’ll consider responding to your inane post.


75 posted on 04/05/2007 1:39:52 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Beelzebubba

nonono I’m laughing with you!

The rest was for the other readers.


76 posted on 04/05/2007 1:44:02 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Steve_Seattle
I’m afraid two hunting experiences separated by decades does not qualify one as a “lifelong hunter.” In my opinion, that’s more than a “stretch,” it’s basically a lie. Not good for Romney.

Hmm...Seems reminiscent of another tall-tailer-teller (Paul Dunn), whom I'm sure some Rombots have heard of...

So wonder white crime runs so high in certain portions of the country.

77 posted on 04/05/2007 1:46:12 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: DBrow
“why is this so important that it should come out?” Because, if you think about it, if he’s not a hunter and does not own guns, but says that he is and that he does, that makes him less than honest.That’s an important trait.

Maybe he's a "closet hunter" and has only decided to emerge recently. Maybe he's tracked all kinds of stuffed animals lurking in his closet all these lifelong years. Come on, now, folks, let's give him the benefit of our doubts, shall we?

78 posted on 04/05/2007 1:49:01 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: showme_the_Glory

“Wasn’t Kerry an avid goose hunter?”

JFK went hunting three or four times during his doomed campaign, and he actually went hunting a time or two when not running. He was known to shoot skeet at some exclusive club, I forget where.

Yet he was unable to convince us of his commitment to RKBA, because of his voting history.

If he had opposed Brady, GCA68, Firearms Protection Act of ‘86, AWB, and so on it may have worked.

Mitt has less to work with- no photo album of him blasting clays or holding dead birds, yet a history as a gun banner.

If I get face time with Mitt I’ll invite him to a CMP match. What a photo-op, as long as he holds an SMLE or equivalent not an “assault weapon”!


79 posted on 04/05/2007 1:49:49 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: O6ret

It means he has few qualifications.


80 posted on 04/05/2007 1:52:22 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Colofornian

No second chance after supporting the Assault Weapons Ban.


81 posted on 04/05/2007 1:52:29 PM PDT by mrhansen
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Did your hubby supprt the Brady ban?


82 posted on 04/05/2007 1:53:17 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: twonie
Anyone who doesn’t go around murdering animals on a regular basis and then claims he does, does not get my vote.

It could be that he had a "Bambi encounter" as a youth where he was confronted face to face by a sweet Bambi-like doe and just couldn't bring himself to retrace those steps until these "Latter-day" years.

He may have a genu-ine case of BAS "Bambi Aim Syndrome" but remained a good HINO (Hunter in Name Only) all these years thru a rich hunters' fantasy life.

83 posted on 04/05/2007 1:55:38 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Maybe he’s a “closet hunter”

Then he can tell us all about it October 11, right before the election!


84 posted on 04/05/2007 1:58:55 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: mrhansen; Unmarked Package; sevenbak; Reaganesque
This guy's starting to remind me of John Kerry. The guy just can't tell the truth. (By the way, don't forget to read my tagline) lol. He probably was an all-start receiver in college too:
85 posted on 04/05/2007 2:04:03 PM PDT by jatopilot99 (Mitt Romney is pro-abortion, pro-gay, and pro-euthanasia!)
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To: mrhansen

I spent last weekend hunting for my car keys. The weekend befire, it was my wallet. Do these count on my resume?


86 posted on 04/05/2007 2:05:41 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: toddlintown

befire=before


87 posted on 04/05/2007 2:06:05 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: jatopilot99

88 posted on 04/05/2007 2:06:19 PM PDT by jatopilot99 (Mitt Romney is pro-abortion, pro-gay, and pro-euthanasia!)
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To: mrhansen; All

Is it true that a movement is afoot to call off the Republican primaries and substitute a target shooting contest?


89 posted on 04/05/2007 2:06:37 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Triple
Did your hubby supprt the Brady ban?

No, but he did enjoy the Brady Bunch as a child. ~:-)

90 posted on 04/05/2007 2:10:14 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: mrhansen
America's reaction?

Does the guy support the 2nd Amendment? If so, the rest is applesauce.
91 posted on 04/05/2007 2:10:18 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: DangerDanger
The problem that keeps tripping Romney up is his credibility gap. After the Kerry “Can Ah git me a huntin’ license here” fiasco, you would think that any politician who does not have a hunting background would stay away from the issue. Running as a conservative after compiling a basically liberal public record is difficult to begin with, but this gaffe, like others Romney has made (reaction to Ann Coulter’s “fag” remarks, for example), make him seem like another sleazy politician and a faux conservative. I do not like Giuliani, but at least he does not pretend to be something he is not, i.e., a conservative. Romney may have the money to play in the big leagues, but he lacks the skills.
92 posted on 04/05/2007 2:10:34 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: dc-zoo

My dyslexic has nothing to do with my IQ any more did it had to with such people as Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Auguste Rodin, George Patton, and Woodrow Wilson were apparently dyslexic. Dyslexia is therefore considered as a sign of genius


93 posted on 04/05/2007 2:11:53 PM PDT by restornu (Accept Nothing Until It Is Verified)
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To: Wallace T.

I agree. Rather than actually being conservative, Romney is trying to act how he thinks a conservative would act.

I’m pretty damned libertarian for the most part, but my libertarianism tilts way to the right - and it cracks me up to see these guys try to fake it.

Point taken regarding Rudy G, as well. Not a fan, but he is who and what he is - take it or leave it.


94 posted on 04/05/2007 2:19:31 PM PDT by DangerDanger
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Ha ha that would be fun!

I do think that a clear, consistent commitment to RKBA and gun rights should be a party plank, though, or have RNC come out and say it’s not an issue for the party any more.

Candidates who don’t support RKBA should say so rather than try to convince us that in spite of everything they’ve done and said in the past, they really really believe in RKBA, why, they even own a gun themselves!

95 posted on 04/05/2007 2:21:15 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The problem is he doesn’t support the Second Amendment.


96 posted on 04/05/2007 2:29:16 PM PDT by mrhansen
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To: SmoothTalker

What kind of hunter? Money hunter? Vote hunter? Publicity hunter? Mushroom hunter?

We can all claim to hunting something.
The addition of a firearm changes the type of hunt considerably.


97 posted on 04/05/2007 2:33:04 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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wow, 2 times? My gosh how does he remember all those?


98 posted on 04/05/2007 2:34:30 PM PDT by isom35
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To: o_zarkman44

Hey, Mitt wasn’t bragging. He said he is far from what one would called a avid hunter. Show me the direct quotes. The media likes to distort what he says.


99 posted on 04/05/2007 2:36:44 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: o_zarkman44

You have to be vewy vewy kwiet when hunting mushrooms....


100 posted on 04/05/2007 2:37:07 PM PDT by DBrow
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