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Christoper Miles: Why I'm Voting for Rudy Guiliani
Tampa Bay Online ^ | 4/6/07 | Chris Miles

Posted on 04/07/2007 2:30:04 PM PDT by meg88

Rudy Giuliani is the best presidential candidate.

On Thursday, April 5, there were two articles in the opinion section that led me to this conclusion. One was "Rudy would kill pro-life movement" written by Doug Patton and the other, "A New Yorker Remembers Rudy" written by Ted Rall.

Patton represents the religious right movement that has taken over the Republican Party. Within his article, he even commends Rudy Giuliani as a candidate. However he is ready to jettison a candidate on one issue only. Patton equates conservatism to pro-life. I would say that anyone who wants to have government tell others how to live by their religious standards is not conservative at all.

From Rudy's website: "Rudy Giuliani supports reasonable restrictions on abortion such as parental notification with a judicial bypass and a ban on partial birth abortion -- except when the life of the mother is at stake. He's proud that adoptions increased 66 percent while abortions decreased over 16 percent in New York City when he was mayor. But Rudy understands that this is a deeply personal moral dilemma, and people of good conscience can disagree respectfully. Ultimately he believes that it is a decision between a woman, her doctor, her family and her God.

Ted Rall is as far left as you can get. His article is spent on Rudy Giuliani's performance during and after 9/11 and his personality. He also chastises him for running off panhandlers. It is his opinion. He never mentions performance in other areas such as when Rudy restored fiscal discipline by controlling spending and cutting wasteful programs. He cut the size of city-funded government bureaucracy by nearly 20 percent -- excluding the number of cops on the street and teachers in the classroom.

He cut taxes 23 times in New York and turned a $2.3 billion budget deficit into a multi-billion dollar surplus, while balancing the city's budget. He put more cops on the street and more criminals in jail. He cut crime in half and reduced murders by two-thirds during his time as mayor. He accomplished this as a Republican mayor with a Democratic city council. Could a "self sabotaging, thin skinned bully" deliver these results?

The extreme right and left in politics dislike him as a candidate. To me, this is the best reason to vote for him.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; giuliani; rinorudy; rinowhine; rudy
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To: EternalVigilance

I’m sorry you wrote all that stuff because I’m not going to waste my time reading it. After I saw “baby killer” in the first line I figured, ok, kookburger alert.


81 posted on 04/07/2007 7:09:07 PM PDT by zook
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To: zook
Every mayor of every big US city has to have that picture taken.

Screw all of them...

82 posted on 04/07/2007 7:10:15 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Trust but Verify
Who decides who they’ll vote for fully one year before the election?

Politics is a lot like sports. You would never ask "Who decides what football team to support before the playoffs?".

People attach their identity and self esteem to politicians, and thus internalize that politicians successes and failures.

83 posted on 04/07/2007 7:10:25 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: EternalVigilance; zook
Archives of Rudolph W. Giuliani, 107th Mayor

Opening Remarks to the N.A.R.A.L. "Champions of Choice" Lunch

The Yale Club, Thursday, April 5th, 2001

As Delivered


Thank you very much for inviting me to say a few words of welcome. This event shows that people of different political parties and different political thinking can unite in support of choice. In doing so, we are upholding a distinguished tradition that began in our city starting with the work of Margaret Sanger and the movement for reproductive freedom that began in the early decades of the 20th century.

As a Republican who supports a woman's right to choose, it is particularly an honor to be here. And I would like to explain, just for one moment, why I believe being in favor of choice is consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. In fact, it might be more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party. Because the Republican Party stands for the idea that you have to restore more freedom of choice, more opportunity, more opportunity for people to make their own choices rather than the government dictating those choices. Republicans stand for lower taxation because we believe that people can make better choices with their money than the government will make for them, and that ultimately frees the economy and produces more political freedom. We believe that, yes, government is important, but that the private sector is actually more important in solving our problems.

So it is consistent with that philosophy to believe that in the most personal and difficult choices that a woman has to make with regard to a pregnancy, those choices should be made based on that person's conscience and that person's way of thinking and feeling. The government shouldn't dictate that choice by making it a crime or making it illegal.

I think that's actually a much more consistent position. Many Republicans support that position, but you don't hear that as often. For example, in a recent poll by American Viewpoint, 65 percent of Republicans supported changing the plank in the Republican platform that calls for a constitutional ban on abortion. That's 6.5 out of every 10 Republicans. And over 80 percent of Republicans believe that the decision with regard to an abortion should be made by a woman, her doctor, and her family rather than dictated by the government.

[Applause]

In any case, I just wanted you to know that many of my fellow Republicans stand with you on this issue. So I thank you, I thank NARAL for taking the lead in establishing freedom of choice for all of us, and as the Mayor of New York City, I thank you for being here in New York City.

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http://www.nyc.gov/html/rwg/html/2001b/champlunch.html

84 posted on 04/07/2007 7:10:38 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: zook
I’m sorry you wrote all that stuff because I’m not going to waste my time reading it.

Typical close-minded liberal. That's why you never learn anything.

85 posted on 04/07/2007 7:10:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: darkangel82

86 posted on 04/07/2007 7:11:27 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Well said!


87 posted on 04/07/2007 7:11:58 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: zook

Another 4000 American babies died today at the hands of Rudy’s friends at NARAL. Does that bother you?


88 posted on 04/07/2007 7:12:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: zook

89 posted on 04/07/2007 7:12:17 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: zook
After I saw “baby killer” in the first line I figured, ok, kookburger alert.

Personally, I think those who think nothing of ripping a baby apart limb by limb, or burning their skin off with a saline solution, is kinda kooky. But that's just me.

90 posted on 04/07/2007 7:13:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

I’ll bet a friend of a friend of yours supports NARAL. That means that 4000 American babies died at the hands of your friends.

I mean, come on. You can say they died at the hands of GW Bush, because after all, he’s president.

This kind of BS argument wears real thin and the American people see through it.


91 posted on 04/07/2007 7:15:02 PM PDT by zook
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To: Gop1040
"Where is Alan Keyes?"

Uh ... up north somewhere? I dunno. Am I supposed to know? < /off dumb blonde routine >

92 posted on 04/07/2007 7:15:41 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, well, the thing is that Rudy doesn’t fit your fantasy description of someone who “thinks nothing of” that crap you wrote.

It’s BS.


93 posted on 04/07/2007 7:16:41 PM PDT by zook
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To: zook

Nonsense.

Every American has a franchise, and every American has a measure of political power. What you do with it is your responsibility, for which you will have to give an account to the One Who made you.

And to whom much is given, much will be required...


94 posted on 04/07/2007 7:17:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: zook

You call yourself a conservative and you’re voting for Rudy?

Conservatives don’t vote for liberals. End of story.


95 posted on 04/07/2007 7:17:13 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: dmw

1. I’m a conservative, a rational one. That makes me a minority on this thread I guess.

2. Rudy ain’t a lib. That’s more extremist hyperbole.


96 posted on 04/07/2007 7:18:57 PM PDT by zook
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Patton represents the religious right movement that has taken over the Republican Party. ====================================

When I see something like this, it makes me think one thing. Anti-Christian bigot.

Yup. In typical leftist obfuscation, they will use the generic "religious right," but on occasion they will be more honest and say what they really mean: "Christian right."

It is indeed the left in America that is full of hatred and bigotry.

97 posted on 04/07/2007 7:20:10 PM PDT by stillonaroll (Rudy: pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun)
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To: meg88

Well, the author would have a point against the religious right— IF Giuliani understood the Constitution.

Many in the conservative movement don’t want to decentralize and send power back to the states— they merely want to use the federal government to push their own agenda.

The problem with Giuliani isn’t that he pisses off the religious right, which has an absolute sense of entitlement these days. It is that Giuliani interprets the Constitution like Ginsburg and Stevens, thinking we have rights to things like federally funded abortions.

In short, voting for Giuliani is like voting for Lieberman. I’d do it to save America from a leftwing moonbat, but for now, I’ll wait and see if a viable and more sensible candidate emerges that can beat Comrade Clinton.


98 posted on 04/07/2007 7:20:57 PM PDT by JHBowden (Give peace a chance! Kill terrorists!)
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To: zook

Gosh. I just clicked on your sn.

First, I was shocked that you’re an old-timer here. Your signup date makes me look like a newbie.

But the next shock was that you’re a college professor. I thought I was talking to a brainwashed college kid.

But I guess you’re a good example of how all these kids get that way...


99 posted on 04/07/2007 7:21:16 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
“Uh ... up north somewhere? I dunno. Am I supposed to know?”

I believe he won this FR poll in 2000. Thought he'd be a sentimental favorite.

100 posted on 04/07/2007 7:23:19 PM PDT by Gop1040
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