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Are Imus Remarks Any Worse Than Some Rappers?
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 04/12/2007 01:44:09 AM PDT | Davey D

Posted on 04/12/2007 6:55:20 AM PDT by meg88

Edited on 04/12/2007 7:28:56 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Some context: Imus was correct. A lot of hip-hop artists have said worse things. It was only last week that we saw Snoop Dogg being praised for criticizing conservative pundit Bill O'Reilly on a popular Netherlands TV talk show.

What got lost amid the applause was Snoop's referring to his former female lawyer, Lauren Lake, who had appeared on "The O'Reilly Factor," as a "ho who was doing the bidding of her pimp" (meaning Snoop).


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To: meg88
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21 posted on 04/12/2007 7:30:27 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: outofstyle

I believe Rush did call her a “ho” when the scandal broke and there was a bit of a dust up. But the scandal died down when people realized that if a low rent stripper/hooker aint a ho, the word has no meaning.


22 posted on 04/12/2007 7:49:18 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Wolfie
Nailed it!
23 posted on 04/12/2007 7:59:48 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: meg88
Imus was simply attempting to compliment the Rutger's team in their own language of Ebonics. Aren' we told that this language is beautiful, and as relevant as any of the classic languages? Is it not taught in our colleges? If the team had been Spanish, would they have been offended if he said "Muy Bueno?"

The best I can figure is that Ebonics is beautiful if spoken by rappers and other hip-hop types, but should not be spoken by white people, as speaking to someone in the language they themselves have proclaimed to be beautiful and worthy of rigorous academic treatment is offensive. Go figure.

Ironically, Ebonics is taught at Rutgers.

http://72.14.205.104/u/rutgerz?q=cache:0QxR5C0JQaEJ:anthro.rutgers.edu/courses/312Ahearn2007.pdf+ebonics&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&ie=UTF-8

24 posted on 04/12/2007 8:02:47 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: meg88
Are Imus Remarks Any Worse Than Some Rappers?

Not even close...

25 posted on 04/12/2007 8:20:25 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: bedolido
I am 62 years old (probably close to Imus' age) and have seen terrible things done against that race of people.

I am about the same age and I can say I have seen "... terrible things done by that race of people".

If their color were green or purple, the statement would still be accurate.

26 posted on 04/12/2007 8:24:03 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: meg88

How did “s*ck my d*ck b*tch” become a love song?


27 posted on 04/12/2007 8:28:23 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Callahan
Imus is just a mumbling drug addict.

And possibly anyone that would spend very much time listening to Howard Stern would also be in that category.

28 posted on 04/12/2007 8:29:22 AM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

What is even worse is the Pat Boone cover version of this song.

(I prefer Tom Jone’s version myself).


29 posted on 04/12/2007 8:31:04 AM PDT by Husker8877
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To: meg88

No — but Imus is white — and everyone knows you can only be a racist if you’re white.


30 posted on 04/12/2007 8:31:33 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Was that by the Beastie Boys ?

31 posted on 04/12/2007 9:10:57 AM PDT by Quester
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To: bedolido

I, as a young white woman, was in L A at the same time period. I was also one who supported the civil rights movement.

However, the reverse racism is really getting offensive.

It is the cracker so many persons of color disrespect who helped push the movement toward real results for everyone and the European Judeo-Christian mentality carried the principles by which it all came about.

It is time for respect to go both ways, but when it does not the response should be a little thicker skinned. We have to realize that people have a right to say almost anything in this country. I do not think we want to lose that becasue if we do, we lose our people power for everyone.


32 posted on 04/12/2007 9:17:02 AM PDT by amihow
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To: meg88

No.

But Anus in the Mornining was delivering them at specific targets hardly in public view - decent kids on a college basketball team.

Besdies, Anus in the Morning is a liberal Democrat.


33 posted on 04/12/2007 9:19:53 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: meg88
My take on this whole thing is the English language is NOW being split according to race.

I posted a comment at one time on this site and used the word "uppity" and immediately I was perceived as black. If "nappy haired ho" is reserved for use by only blacks then I agree that Ann Coulter is correct BUT we need more than a rule book we need many new dictionaries that are race specific.

This has gone waaaaay too far and I am tired of being hi-jacked in undefined ways by minority groups. It is time the white folk (if I can use that word) stand up to this crap.

It is a sad day when American Idol can be hi-jacked by the public for no good reason and when a person's career can be hi-jacked because of ill-chosen words that freedom of speech grants all of us.

This is not about racism--it is about words and who is allowed and who is NOT ALLOWED to use them.

34 posted on 04/12/2007 9:27:00 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: meg88

Nothing in speech is as offensive as the racial remarks made by ‘Latino’ leaders, many of them professors on the tax payer dole. Where is the outrage about that?

Go here for audio!

http://www.ccir.net/ra.html

Samples:

# Armando Navarro at U.C. Riverside
“It means a transfer of power......”

# Art Torres’ Outrageous Quotes
...”187 is the last gasp of white America in California.”

# Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo’s Outrageous Remark in Chicago

# ‘Chicano National Guard’s’ Ricky Sierra
“It’s Time to Take Back What Is Ours!”

# ‘Brown Beret’s’ Augustin Cebeda at the July 4, 1996 Rally in Westwood, California
“...if anyone is going to be deported it’s gonna be YOU!”

# Mario Obledo (California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations) on the Tom Leykis Show
“...eventually we are going to take over all the political institutions of California.....”

# Mario Obledo, Co-founder of MALDEF, and Ray Briem
“...well if they don’t like Mexicans they ought to leave. They ought to go back to Europe.”

# Senator Hilda Solis’ - Claims that Illegals are Americans “whether we are legalized or not....”
Senator Solis is sponsoring an outrageous bill, SB-371, that would give illegal aliens the right to be issued drivers’ licenses in California.

# L.A. News Anchor on ‘Hispanic’ Attacks on Caucasian L.A.U.S.D. Teachers

# Jose Pescador-Osuna Claims Mexico is “Practicing Reconquista in California” (2/7/98).
“...even though I’m saying this part serious, part joking, I think we are practicing La Reconquista in California....”
“Reconquista” refers to the re-taking of the U.S. Southwest that Mexico lost in the Mexican-American War. Some Mexicans refer to this territory as “Aztlan”.


35 posted on 04/12/2007 10:00:05 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: meg88
Are Imus Remarks Any Worse Than Some Rappers?

I think in today's PC climate, there are certain "rules" you have to follow :

1) It is OK to racially disparage people of your own "race" but not people NOT of your race. Hence using the word --- "Nigga" is fine, BUT ONLY IF YOU'RE BLACK, BUT NOT IF YOU'RE WHITE.

2) If you are to call people Ho's, don't BE SPECIFIC about it. Make it "general" as in --- "women I date are ho's", "women who come on to me are ho's". Imus' PC problem was this -- HE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED IDENTIFIABLE WOMEN. That's a no-no. Being general, tolerable, being specific, NOT ACCEPTABLE.

3) Minorities get more leeway in using racially insensitive terms than those in the majorities. I don't need to even explain why.

4) When you hide behind the word -- PARODY --- somehow, using racial ephithets or insulting words, become OK. Hence, rappers like Ludacris or EminEm can get away with it because they can always say that it's ART and PARODY and we shouldn't take them too seriously ( just as they themselves don't take it seriously).

Understanding this unspoken "rules" of society goes a long way towards explaining why Imus got crucified while rappers and even Al Sharpton get away with their remarks.
36 posted on 04/12/2007 10:20:35 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: meg88

A Google search of ‘nigga’ and ‘lyrics’ yields 1,360,000 hits.


37 posted on 04/12/2007 10:29:03 AM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: bedolido

The Left has protected classes, people, groups that no one must criticize and all must pander to! The minorities are such and though crime, illegality, immorality is huge in their culture, crime rates, gangs, music and illigitimacy, no one may protest. If one does, that person could be in real danger of life and limb. See how they will now try to destroy Talk Radio.


38 posted on 04/12/2007 11:14:49 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: BOBWADE

ping


39 posted on 04/12/2007 11:30:54 AM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: Snoopers-868th
If "nappy haired ho" is reserved for use by only blacks then I agree that Ann Coulter is correct BUT we need more than a rule book we need many new dictionaries that are race specific.

Phrases like "nappy-haired ho" are reserved for persons of low moral character, whatever their race or culture.

Persons with character ... of all races and cultures ... do no use such phrases.

40 posted on 04/12/2007 2:16:17 PM PDT by Quester
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