Skip to comments.1994 Rudy: "I will work as hard to protect.. right to believe in God ..or not to believe in God."
Posted on 04/12/2007 8:22:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
1994 Rudy: "I will work as hard to protect someone's right to believe in God as he or she sees fit -- or not to believe in God."
The Brody File has dug up a Rudy quote from the past that makes for an interesting discussion. In a 1994 New York Times article, Rudy said this:
"As the Mayor of New York City, I will work as hard to protect someone's right to believe in God as he or she sees fit -- or not to believe in God -- because I realize that my right to practice my religion depends completely on my commitment to defend someone else's right to practice theirs, or to practice no religion at all."
The article goes on to mention his views on Catholicism.
"Mr. Giuliani, who as a young man once considered joining the priesthood, noted that many Catholics today "feel that in some intellectual or quasi-intellectual circles, they are demeaned." He said he had also heard Catholics say that "Catholic-bashing has become part of the dogma of what they regard as the politically correct." And he said: "Indeed, I do detect among some who accept the most recent intellectual fads a disdain for those who share in the more orthodox faiths, whether Christian or Jewish or Muslim. In my humble opinion -- and this is meant as an observation, not a challenge -- that disdain emerges from an almost subconscious conclusion that to believe in God too fervently betrays a certain intellectual infirmity." He compared such a view with the "difficult time that some believers have in drawing the line between belief in dogma and respect for those who disagree." He called for believers and unbelievers alike to avoid "the arrogance of having no doubts."
Read the rest of the article here. It's interesting to hear Rudy talk about his faith. Clearly, there is a deeper story there. It makes me wonder what his upbringing was like and how his Catholic faith helped shaped who he is today. It's something worth exploring. I interview Giuliani next week. Maybe I'll pursue this with him. Got questions for him? Email them to me.
I guess my post #120 really “burned” you.
Nah, sad reality is when another NW liberal comes on FR and tries to tell 90% of us conservatives here that we need to accept a liberal candidate. What’s the matter, did it get too boring over there at DU for you? People who promote liberalism in any form here on this forum can expect to be challenged and challenged fiercely. It isn’t conservatives who need to be put on the defensive here—it’s the liberals who promote liberalism.
"...100% no-compromise our-way-or-the-highway we'll sit home and let a democrat win in order to teach america a lesson' crowd as you realize that without some form of compromise and moderation, you'll continue to be irrelevent..."
You are right, no compromise--to the left that is. Moderation? Not interested. Irrelevant you say...time will tell.
I noticed in another post of yours that you don’t claim to be a Rudy supporter. Do you think you’ve got some kind of a calling to come here and defend the Rudybots? I guess someone had to go and recruit you to help protect these poor liberals who are getting their little *feelings* hurt here. How sweet of you to come and help these poor babies.
BTW, if you haven’t already, I suggest you go to the FR home page and read the FR mission. This is a very conservative forum, and as Jim Robinson has recently said, it will most likely become more conservative in the days ahead. Not gonna be too comfy for liberals...or for those who try to protect them.
And, by the way, welcome to FR.
Hell, I’D support a Fred Thompson run... If he’d get off his butt and actually commit.
What's the rush? This time in 1999, no one was close to officially entering the race yet.
IMO the early entry gambit was a mistake all around. Rudy's been knocking himself silly wrestling with the abortion issue. Why should Fred join him in the tarpits?
I’m not in any hurry. However, I will be supporting whomever becomes the (R) nominee, even if they are more liberal than I would like. I’d hold my nose and do it, because I’ve SEEN what the democrats have done to my community, and electing a (D) will be MUCH worse than even Guiliani.
Oh yeah, I am just all burned up from your puny little post. Actually, I’ve been doing some homework that you gave me to do. I’ve been going back and reading the interaction between you and Jim. You claim that Jim Robinson *knows* you are a conservative. Well, I can’t presume to know what’s in Jim’s mind, but I can surely read his comments to you and I’ll be glad to post them and let everyone come to their own conclusions. Not sure how much time I want to spend on it, but let’s just begin with this one...
____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by Jim Robinson to Cincinatus’ Wife
On News/Activism 03/04/2007 3:20:33 AM PST · 54 of 300
Never in my worst nightmares would I believe Republicans, much less FReepers, would willingly go along with the wholesale slaughter of our helpless unborn generations. Shameful. May God forgive us.
___________________________________________________________________________ Are you a Republican? Are you a FReeper? Well, Jim seems to have some pretty strong sentiments towards people like you. I don’t know if he considers you a conservative or not, maybe he does. But he also believes that people who promote liberal candidates who support killing innocent babies—shameful. Not too conservative in my view. But hey, that’s just me.
That one’s gonna leave a mark.
As I have said before... there are a lot of good things to say about Rudy, and this is one of them.
The anti-Rudy folks with the hate complex are just the latest edition of the 'Buchannan Brigades'. The peasants with pitchforks.
"If you don't agree with my exact extreme reading of every single political issue you're a babykilling, gungrabbing, homoloving, liberal who isn't fit to lick my boots!"
They'll lose -- again -- and go away quietly -- again.
The evidence suggests Rudy will win the nomination and the general. And his history suggests he'll do a good job, likely becoming one of our best Presidents ever.
And all these folks calling him all these names will once again be seen for what they are. :-D
This is a great post for you all to read. Check it out and send it to others who you think might be interested in it.
JMack, thanks for posting this. You said it far more eloquently than I ever could.
Thought you might be interested in reading this post #172. Check it out.
I have always thought that abortion should be left up to the states..