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West Point grads leaving U.S. Army
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Posted on 04/12/2007 8:59:57 PM PDT by PAUL REVERE TODAY

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To: balch3
They weren't Clinton appointees. Weren't they nominated by their individual congress critters?

If anything, it will get worse!

41 posted on 04/13/2007 5:47:49 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: PAUL REVERE TODAY

It is, for some, a poor career choice. For a professional soldier there is nothing more compelling than a war.


42 posted on 04/13/2007 5:54:36 AM PDT by OldEagle (May you live long enough to hear the legends of your own adventures.)
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To: middie
"We have become victims of the most inept and corrupt administration in modern U.S. history. That is a sentence I never thought I'd utter about a president for whom I worked diligently in Florida, assisted as part of the 2000 legal team of volunteers, raised money and considering the immediate preceeding eight years of Bill Clinton."

I sadly agree.

As long as votes can be bought by mega, multi-national corporations, it's only going to get worse - regardless of what "letter" our leaders wear.

43 posted on 04/13/2007 5:59:31 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: verity
"It seems to me that those leaving because of repeated tours in Iraq are NOT the Army's best."

Yeah, right.

These guys (and gals) are fighting a war they won't be allowed to win, while leaving behind spouses and children for repeated extended tours. And they might get killed for that?

Top priorities include family and staying alive. This war is NOT WORTH IT. The administration is inept and corrupt.

44 posted on 04/13/2007 6:03:42 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: PAUL REVERE TODAY

A stat that might be meaningless. Tell me the 5-year ‘drop rate’ during Vietnam (’72 -75). Then we’ll talk. Academy grads are human beings & they have other options. It shouldn’t be surprising that the rate increases during wartime.


45 posted on 04/13/2007 6:48:06 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: PAUL REVERE TODAY
This is very troubling to me. Do a lot of the graduates that leave the military in peace time go to West Point for the free education? I had no idea the rate of officers from West Point leaving the Army was this high. I had always had this preconception that West Pointers were mostly in for their career. This saddens me.

What are they opting out for? 4x annual pay with a civilian contractor supporting the WOT?

46 posted on 04/13/2007 6:55:34 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Texas_shutterbug
And they might get killed for that?

The Islamic Republic of Iraq.

47 posted on 04/13/2007 6:58:25 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: PAUL REVERE TODAY
It's not suprising when you consider the fact that we are conducting a so-called war that places artificial limits of engagement on our soldiers while at the same time placing them under a microscope for possible criminal charges while conducting said "warfare".

Anything less than total war is immoral, and these young officers instinctively know this. That's why they're leaving.

48 posted on 04/13/2007 7:13:19 AM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Void where prohibited.)
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To: middie; All

I wouldn’t go so far as to call the administration corrupt, but inept is right on the money.

My family and my husband’s family both have a long tradition of military service. The pattern is to serve for several years and then come home to the family business. However, I have quietly been encouraging my children to skip military service.

When we have less than total war, when warfighters on the battlefield have to call back to CENTCOM and play “mother may I” with a JAG before they can kill a terrorist, when we prosecute Marines for killing the enemy on the battlefield, I don’t want my kids involved in that. Our military is designed and structured to win wars, not nation-build. We are asking these young men and women to do something they are not trained to do, then complaining when it doesn’t go well.

The officers who survived the Clinton purges are now running the military, and many, if not most of them are simply not fit. With few exceptions, they are politicians, not warfighters, and they make decisions accordingly. They’re the type to tell the administration what they think it wants to hear, not want it NEEDS to hear.


49 posted on 04/13/2007 7:32:28 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Wormwood

Love your tagline!


50 posted on 04/13/2007 7:52:55 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: PAUL REVERE TODAY

Highest in more than 30 years...

more than 30 years ago = Vietnam.

I would think war time attrition would defacto be higher than peacetime.


51 posted on 04/13/2007 7:57:50 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: fr_freak
sex is absolutely relevant. To deny that is to live in a fantasy world.

Comprehension skills are essential to decent debate. When one misinterprets, I often suspect they are doing it deliberately to give themselves an opening for their arrogance.

And men who obsess about gender due to their own misogyny really need to grow up.

52 posted on 04/13/2007 8:35:41 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Quiet Down Out There!)
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To: txroadkill
ding ding ding....we have a winner. The only thing more employable than a West Point grad is a navy nuke or a female/minority engineer......under-utilization and EEO (HR terms for legal discrimination).
53 posted on 04/13/2007 8:41:06 AM PDT by superfries
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To: Texas_shutterbug
You and Oberon are sniveling members of our society who do not deserve any respect from those who are willing participants in the profession of arms.
54 posted on 04/13/2007 8:45:38 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: ansel12

Women have a higher attrition rate because of motherhood. It is virtually impossible to be a good mother and be in some career fields in the military. I never intended to stay in the military for a full career and most women I knew felt the same way. It was a great place to gain skills and serve my country for a time, but I wanted a family, too, and I wasn’t willing to leave my children for months on end. Very few women are.


55 posted on 04/13/2007 8:46:44 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: verity
Sniveling members for speaking the truth: that our troops have one hand tied behind their backs in fighting this war and that their leaders are inept?

I fully support and appreciate our service men and women. I do not support those who are leading them into that hellhole with no plan to do what's necessary to win. My position is NOT that of the liberals, who want to get out at all costs. I want to stay and win, but that's not happening with this bunch of baffoons!

56 posted on 04/13/2007 9:00:01 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: txroadkill
<> I could not easily find any articles on salary offers to West Pointers. If you find any, please submit. Thanks.
57 posted on 04/13/2007 9:04:06 AM PDT by PAUL REVERE TODAY
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
<> Yes, they served their obligation. I think we as Americans should care when a large percent of our finest Army officer graduates are not continuing in the Army during war time.
58 posted on 04/13/2007 9:08:08 AM PDT by PAUL REVERE TODAY
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To: Texas_shutterbug

I do not appreciate armchair generals.


59 posted on 04/13/2007 9:24:20 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: Allegra
Comprehension skills are essential to decent debate. When one misinterprets, I often suspect they are doing it deliberately to give themselves an opening for their arrogance.

Perhaps you could be more specific, and explain how this nugget of wisdom applies to my post.
60 posted on 04/13/2007 9:29:07 AM PDT by fr_freak
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