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News from the Long War, Thread 4
Various | 4/15/07 | Knitting a Conundrum and Others

Posted on 04/15/2007 6:02:06 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum

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Thread 4



Since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, our nation has fought a global war against violent extremists who use terrorism as their weapon of choice, and who seek to destroy our free way of life. Our enemies seek weapons of mass destruction and, if they are successful, will likely attempt to use them in their conflict with free people everywhere. Currently, the struggle is centered in Iraq and Afghanistan, but we will need to be prepared and arranged to successfully defend our nation and its interests around the globe for years to come. DOD

Our enemies include all the Muslims who dream of knocking Western Civilization off its perch atop humanity’s dung heap. Islam is fractured into any number of sects, tribes and ethnic groups, but the dream of destroying us cuts across all the fault lines. Islamic terrorists are merely the tip of a very large spear.

J. Peter Mulhern, the American Thinker, September 18

The determination behind that fight is real, the hatred is real, and the excuses for doing this are very real in the minds of those who have decided to walk that path. We can respond in two ways: Try to ignore or negotiate with people who do not want to negotiate in good faith, because what they want is our destruction, or to stand up against the darkness of those who see all of us, our way of life, our culture and our aspirations as something worth eliminating.

Either: "And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Or: "With vigilance, determination, courage, we will defeat the enemies of freedom, and we will leave behind a more peaceful world for our children and our grandchildren." GW Bush.

Here's where I will post news and info about the Long War. Let me know if you're interested.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; israel; longwar; mohammedanism; wot
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Likud chairman says gov’t has no moral validity to rule

Published: 04.30.07, 17:42 / Israel News

Chairman of the Likud faction MK Gideon Saar said of the Winograd Commission’s publication of its interim report that “the report leads to a single conclusion – the failed government no longer has moral validity to lead. It must return the mandate to the people immediately.”

Likud MK Yuval Steinitz said, “The bottom line in the report is that last summer Israel did not have effective political and security leadership in a time of war. There can be no worse problem in a democratic state.” (Amnon Meranda)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3393923,00.html


1,661 posted on 04/30/2007 8:06:30 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Good morning, Knitting. :-)

Too much to read, listen to and weave. LOL

Decisions, decisions....


1,662 posted on 04/30/2007 8:23:52 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Dogwood Blossoms trickle down like Snow, bringing hope of Renewal, Redemption and Resurrection)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Kind of like family....

Good description. :-)


1,663 posted on 04/30/2007 8:24:54 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Dogwood Blossoms trickle down like Snow, bringing hope of Renewal, Redemption and Resurrection)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Well said. :-)

Watch out for that wind....


1,664 posted on 04/30/2007 8:26:06 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Dogwood Blossoms trickle down like Snow, bringing hope of Renewal, Redemption and Resurrection)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Cleaning, organizing and gardening over here!


1,665 posted on 04/30/2007 8:39:08 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

18:35 Kadima MK Hasson: Report shouldn`t be used as political instrument (Israel Radio)
18:26 Meretz MK Zehava Gal-On: `Olmert and Peretz need to go home` (Israel Radio)
18:23 MK Barakeh: Report highlights arrogance and militarism of gov`t (Haaretz)
18:20 Several left-wing activists protest outside PM`s home, call on him to resign (Haaretz)
18:15 PM aide: Olmert is not planning to resign over Winograd report findings (Army Radio)
18:12 Left-wing activists demonstrate at PM`s house, call for his resignation (Haaretz)
18:06 Report: 14 killed, 25 hurt in suicide bombing at funeral north of Baghdad (AP)
18:04 Labor Min. Eitan Cabel hints he will resign from gov`t over Winograd report (Ch. 2)
17:59 MK Katz (Likud): Current leadership must go, Netanyahu better choice (Israel Radio)
17:49 BBC journalists in Cairo rally for release of kidnapped reporter in Gaza (AP)
17:47 Winograd: Cabinet ministers entered war without exit plan (Haaretz)


1,666 posted on 04/30/2007 8:39:58 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I managed to put in 3 different colors of Ajuga in my shade garden, and some columbine. They all look pretty. :-)

Hauling some bags of dirt to plant salad greens and pole beans later today.

Doing 30 fingerloop braids for my apprentice’s jacket and 8 oz. of gorgeous gold merino to spin for a friend’s weaving project. :-)

Waiting on a podcast of an interview with one of the Duke attorneys....


1,667 posted on 04/30/2007 8:43:19 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Dogwood Blossoms trickle down like Snow, bringing hope of Renewal, Redemption and Resurrection)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Did you get your kitchen done Amelia Bedelia style???


1,668 posted on 04/30/2007 8:44:12 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Dogwood Blossoms trickle down like Snow, bringing hope of Renewal, Redemption and Resurrection)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

That Winograd report sounds to me like a Mark One Mod Zero Political Second-guessing and CYA Cluster****, and this comment just dropped my opinion of “MK Gideon Saar” and his party straight into the crapper.

Someday, one of those political whizkids is going to wake up to the reality that YOU DO NOT RUN A WAR THE SAME WAY YOU RUN A D*** POLITICAL CAMPAIGN, YOU JUST GET THE NEP’s, MEDIA TALKING HEADS AND YOUR OWN TENDER BUTT THE HE** OUT OF THE AREA, TURN LOOSE THE DOGS AND CONFINE YOUR “WARTIME LEADERSHIP” TO SUPPORTIVE SPEECHES AND ORGANIZING THE VICTORY CELEBRATIONS.

Sorry about the attitude, but just DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!


1,669 posted on 04/30/2007 8:47:48 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (I'm rapidly running out of reasons to consider a democrat as a citizen of the same country.)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

I don’t know, but I got it done! Looks nice, too...


1,670 posted on 04/30/2007 8:52:20 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

I think we said exactly that, with some colorful variations all through the war, Unrepentant.

Wars need to run through the Department of War/Defense, not the Department of State.

Otherwise, they aren’t wars, but merely very dangerous distractions.


1,671 posted on 04/30/2007 8:58:40 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Dogwood Blossoms trickle down like Snow, bringing hope of Renewal, Redemption and Resurrection)
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To: Uncle Ike

****trail of breadcrumbs****


1,672 posted on 04/30/2007 9:08:13 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (He who smiles and keeps his head when all about are losing theirs - doesn't understand the situation)
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To: Uncle Ike

19:06 Families of kidnapped soldiers meet to discuss findings of Winograd report (Haaretz)
18:59 Senior Kadima official: Winograd report is harsher than expected (Army Radio)
18:44 National Union MK Benny Elon: Elections are key to Israel`s salvation (Israel Radio)
18:41 PA: We hope Winograd report won`t complicate efforts to revive peace process (AP)
18:39 Labor MK Pines: Public must demand resignation of Olmert and Peretz (Israel Radio)
18:35 Kadima MK Hasson: Report shouldn`t be used as political instrument (Israel Radio)


1,673 posted on 04/30/2007 9:08:42 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Cabinet secretary: Olmert is not considering resignation

Published: 04.30.07, 19:02 / Israel News

Cabinet Secretary Yisrael Maimon said in response to publication of the Winograd Commission partial report: “Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is not contemplating to resign. Resignation is not a magic potion.”

According to Maimon, “the prime minister believes that he is the right man to fix the wrongs of his government.” (Ronny Sofer)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3393964,00.html


1,674 posted on 04/30/2007 9:12:36 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Kadima official: If Olmert does not resign, party will

Published: 04.30.07, 18:44 / Israel News

A high-ranking official from Kadima said in response to the Winograd Commission report that “the prime minister cannot remain in his position.”

He added that Olmert’s personal accountability was very high, “and this is only a partial report. The final report will be more severe. If the prime minister does not do it on his own accord, Kadima will have to do it.” (Ronny Sofer)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3393960,00.html


1,675 posted on 04/30/2007 9:13:34 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Signs of Split over Report in Kadima

(IsraelNN.com) The Kadima Knesset faction, the party of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and the largest Knesset faction, is beginning to show signs of internal rift as it responds to the Winograd Committee’s Interim Report. MK Menachem Ben-Sasson spoke on behalf of the entire faction, stating his support for Olmert, and calling on politicians to patiently analyze the reports findings before jumping to conclusions.

Nevertheless, there are members of the Kadima faction who are saying that there must be changes at the top by the end of the week, or that the government will fall. Several Kadima MKs have had meetings in recent weeks with Likud head Binyamin Netanyahu, considered the strongest contender to succeed Olmert in the event of new elections.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/125582


1,676 posted on 04/30/2007 9:14:32 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

“...we said exactly that, with some colorful variations all through the war”

After finally shoehorning some information out of my Dad (a P-51 driver who flew tactical reconnaissance for Georgy Patton), the Korea vet in-laws, my brothers and I from ‘Nam most of the First Gulf War and now the WOT, we’ve all been saying exactly that about way too many wars.

Problem is, that while it might seem like a distraction to some, those distractions have an annoying habit of getting people sent home in body bags.

If you can find anything to put in the bag, or (my personal burr under the saddle) even bother to look. (I’ve still got former student pilots on the MIA list.)


1,677 posted on 04/30/2007 9:24:33 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (I'm rapidly running out of reasons to consider a democrat as a citizen of the same country.)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

19:52 PA official: Captors of BBC reporter make new demands, turned down by PA gov`t (AP)
19:42 Syria, UN organization provide $2 million in aid to Iraqi refugees in Syria (DPA)
19:33 Hezbollah official: Winograd report confirms Israel was in confusion during war (AP)
19:30 PM advisor: Winograd panel`s announcements don`t reflect reality accurately (Ch. 10)
19:15 Olmert to Kadima ministers: I have no intention of resigning (Haaretz)
19:06 Families of kidnapped soldiers meet to discuss findings of Winograd report (Haaretz)
18:59 Senior Kadima official: Winograd report is harsher than expected (Army Radio)

I’m sort of expecting that Olmert goes by week’s end or the government collapses.


1,678 posted on 04/30/2007 10:00:47 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Got an afternoon worth of work to get at....

I’ll work on my bad ‘tude before I come back.

....trail of coffee grounds........


1,679 posted on 04/30/2007 10:50:18 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (I'm rapidly running out of reasons to consider a democrat as a citizen of the same country.)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Be glad you’re not facing Olmert’s headache!


1,680 posted on 04/30/2007 10:55:56 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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