Skip to comments.News from the Long War, Thread 4
Posted on 04/15/2007 6:02:06 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum
Since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, our nation has fought a global war against violent extremists who use terrorism as their weapon of choice, and who seek to destroy our free way of life. Our enemies seek weapons of mass destruction and, if they are successful, will likely attempt to use them in their conflict with free people everywhere. Currently, the struggle is centered in Iraq and Afghanistan, but we will need to be prepared and arranged to successfully defend our nation and its interests around the globe for years to come. DOD
Our enemies include all the Muslims who dream of knocking Western Civilization off its perch atop humanityâs dung heap. Islam is fractured into any number of sects, tribes and ethnic groups, but the dream of destroying us cuts across all the fault lines. Islamic terrorists are merely the tip of a very large spear.
J. Peter Mulhern, the American Thinker, September 18
The determination behind that fight is real, the hatred is real, and the excuses for doing this are very real in the minds of those who have decided to walk that path. We can respond in two ways: Try to ignore or negotiate with people who do not want to negotiate in good faith, because what they want is our destruction, or to stand up against the darkness of those who see all of us, our way of life, our culture and our aspirations as something worth eliminating.
Either: "And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism," Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Or: "With vigilance, determination, courage, we will defeat the enemies of freedom, and we will leave behind a more peaceful world for our children and our grandchildren." GW Bush.
Here's where I will post news and info about the Long War. Let me know if you're interested.
Looks like Fatah al-Islam is tucking tail - the top guys get out before the bottom guys know they've lost.
” the top guys get out before the bottom guys know they’ve lost. “
Yup — the “We’re gonna fight to the last” crowd has been bugging out since, about, day-one....
And the Lebanese have been pretty good at catching ‘em and ‘disposing’ of ‘em on the run....
Hizbullah has built a network of underground military bunkers near the Israel-Lebanon border under the feet of UN forces, the Sunday Times reported. Excerpt Full Text
But of course we already know this :)
” Hizbullah rearming under UN’s nose, “
The other day, Bahbah posted a story about how the Lebanese army had intercepted a Hezbollah arms convoy in southern Lebanon...
They ‘confiscated’ the weapons and (are you ready for this?) let the Hezzies *go*.....
hmmmmm. Lebanon mmay be trying to stave off war with Syria until the get finished up Al Islam.
Just a thought.
After all, Hezzies ain’t much without their weapons.
I was surprised that there was a story that said they confiscated the weapons.
What do you guys think about all of these stories of a war against Israel this summer. I mean other than the usual bedeviling that they are always up to.
” What do you guys think about all of these stories of a war against Israel this summer. “
The more cynical part of me notes that Jpost runs stories along these lines every couple of months or so — smoke, but not a whole lot of fire....
On the other hand, I’ve made no secret of my belief that general war in the ME is inevitable, and that the longer it’s delayed, the worse it will be....
Good morning, Bahbah!!!
Good morning :)
That’s been my quandry as well. Lots of crying wolf. But the wolf is real.
” Lots of crying wolf. But the wolf is real. “
It’s only a matter of time until someone over there miscalculates, and sends the whole unbalanced mess spiralling out of control....
Ike is right about the smoke but I think its more "one up man ship" between nations.
Iran says blah and then Israel HAS to say blah blah and Syria just has to blah blah blah. Each is escalated in tone and scope.
Big problem is, THEY MEAN IT.
I have to agree with Ike on his second statement, general war in the ME is inevitable.
I think Ahmanutjob is unbalanced enough to do it.
Yup...that is pretty much it. Matter of time.
IDF, keep your engines ready.
Not just Israel but it looks like Lebanon wants it’s country back also.
” HERE YA GO “
Heard an earlier report on FNC (no FR source for it, yet) that the Iranians had grabbed yet another Iranian-American ‘activist’, bringing the total to 4, I think....
Not counting the ‘former FBI’ guy that disappeared there back in March... (Saw a report that Iran is “denying any knowledge” of this one....)
Factor in the 15 Brits of last month, and Iranian arms and ‘advisors’ in Iraq and Afghanistan, and I begin to wonder if there is *any* level of provocation that would prompt a response from our feckless leadership....
Foolish people with big mouths.
We can expect more of the same.
I agree. He is foolish but He will push and probe as far as he can.
Well, gang —
Time to go to work....
Have a WONDERFUL day!!!!
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Lebanese Troops Fight Abssi Terrorists with Bayonets and Daggers
Naharnet.com ^ | 6/10/07
Lebanese troops have pierced into the last stronghold of Fatah al-Islam terrorists in the northern refugee camp of Nahr al-Bared fighting Syria’s allies with bayonets and daggers.
At least five soldiers were “martyred” in the face-to-face confrontation Saturday while 20 terrorists were killed. The daily an-Nahar reported ferocious confrontations in the camp to finish off the Fatah al-Islam gang, headed by Jordanian-Palestinian Shaker al-Abssi.
It quoted unnamed security sources as saying fighters from all the factions affiliated with Syrian President Bashar Assad’s regime are taking part with Abssi terrorists in confronting the army at Nahr al-Bared. An-Nahar also said security forces busted suspected terrorist hideouts in north Lebanon’s Zghorta province and arrested an undisclosed number of suspects, including two Syrian men. The region is a traditional stronghold for Suleiman Franjieh’s pro-Syrian Marada Movement.
Meanwhile, Maronite Bishops have called for the formation of a national unity government based on a joint policy plan accepted by the various political factions to end the nation’s ongoing power struggle. The bishops, in a statement released Saturday, also stressed on the necessity of holding presidential elections according to constitutional schedule. The call Saturday was welcomed by leaders of the March 14 majority alliance.
Mediation efforts to broker a peaceful end to the three-week confrontation have suffered a setback. One of the mediators said that their mission was being complicated by the disappearance of senior commanders among the militants. On a mission into Nahr al-Bared on Friday afternoon, they were only able to meet the militants’ spokesman, Shahine Shahine, mediator Sheikh Fathi Yakan said. “Something is going on within Fatah al-Islam ranks,” the cleric said. “Their leaders are no longer visible. We were only able to meet a junior official while their top leaders like Shaker Abssi aren’t talking.”
Meanwhile, France announced on Friday that it was willing to chair informal fence-mending talks between the March 14 majority alliance and the Syrian-backed Hizbullah-led opposition. French envoy Jean-Claude Cousseran, a former ambassador to Syria, is due in Beirut on Sunday to prepare for the talks. He is to meet Premier Fouad Saniora and other officials.
Given the change in France's government, this might actually be of some help.
Even with the boot the extreme left got, they are still pretty far left.
Possibly, but Chirac was just a plain criminal who, in addition, would try to get any result that was opposite of what the US might want. I think Sarkozy is worlds better than that.
Coffee is on and news is gettin old :)
Good morning, Workerbee...
Early-early work day this morning — double-strength coffee this morning... ;~)
Haven’t seen anything “newsy” yet this morning....
I noticed that - calm before the storm? Or Monday morning blahs?
” calm before the storm? Or Monday morning blahs? “
Maybe it’s the ‘calm before the Monday morning blahs’....
I missed pookies ping by 12 whole seconds - I’m sleeping.
Have a FANTABULOUS day, everybody!!
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BAGHDAD - The suicide explosion that destroyed a vital bridge outside the Iraqi capital killed three American soldiers guarding the span over a main highway, the U.S. military said Monday, as bulldozers worked to clear the shattered concrete.
An Iraqi interpreter also was wounded in the attack Sunday on the overpass on the Iraqi capital’s main north-south artery. As rescuers climbed over the debris, U.S. armored vehicles provided cover fire from their cannons after the bombing, which occurred in the area dubbed the “triangle of death” for its frequent Sunni insurgent attacks.
Curses for theirs.
Roger-That,,,No word yet what unit...
Howdy, CM. Long time, no “see”. Multiple explosions today in Turkey and one in downtown Nairobi near the site of the embassy bombings (’98).
Howdy,,,Great to see ya’,,,The Kurds must be gittin’ some
“Pay-Back”,,,time for Kenya to take out the trash...;0)
Been out doing family weddings, just stopped by to catch up on the latest...
Hey there,,,lots of “here and there” in the news,,,
Ain’t much good...
The VISTA control panel is terrible thing. I don't mess with my control panel and I hope it don't mess with me.
Ain’t doing VISTA no way no how!!! not until service pack 2 at least..
Anybody up yet?
VISTA ain’t so bad once you blow away the factory pre-load and re-install from your backup disk.
” Anybody up yet? “
Good morning, Workerbee...
Just ‘punching in’ for now — gotta get some caffiene in me — at least enough for the letters on the screen to stop running together......
LOL -Good morning Ike.
Good morning (again) Workerbee...
‘twixt watching FNC for some two hours, and reading the headlines deemed appropriate - important enough - for the FR main board, I find that everything I have to say is summed up in my tagline......
It’s not often that I see such a case of collective myopia, denial, and just plain banality....
Nero and his fiddle got nothin’ on the American consciousness......
I still have to believe that if most Americans could be shown that they are being played like said fiddle, they would be angered.
” I still have to believe that if most Americans could be shown that they are being played like said fiddle, they would be angered. “
I’d like to agree with you - I really would...
Unfortunately, I have reached the dismal conclusion that the majority of us *want* to be “kept in the dark and fed bullsh[t”, because it’s just too *hard* to face the dark truth.....
(Case in point — on the Cavuto rerun this morning, Neil was holding forth in defense of high gas prices, and he said, “Yes, gas prices have been going up, but baked-goods prices have been going up all along, too, and you don’t hear me complaining...” -—— “MAKE THE CONNECTION, CAVUTO!!” was what I was literally screaming at the TV... I get so frustrated, sometimes..... )