Skip to comments.Cho sent photos and rambling letter to NBC.
Posted on 04/18/2007 1:29:40 PM PDT by harwood
Just heard anchorette report this on pMSNBC
It was full of rambling and incoherent thoughts, invective and bile, etc. so they couldn't figure out if it came from Olberman or Matthews. There was some valium spittle on the letter, which made them think of Matthews. But then again, it could have come from top management.
I just LOVE the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle! Wow, Freeeprs are so smart.
Yeah, NBC are MarOONS!
You don’t touch the stuff, let alone copy it etc.
I wish the mods would remove my post.
Or maybe I should learn to read my posts first before hitting that button????
That makes me suspect he had other plans originally.
NBC has a ratings coup here.
Don’t expect much of a release because you will here this instead.
“NBC news, due to the complexity of the issue and the dijointed material will be analyzing and SHOWING THIS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS...we want to take our time so you can fully understand this terrible event. Yes, it is true that we will make many millions of dollars by our slow release advertising strategy but we are here to inform you.”
I suppose you are correct and it was sent snail mail. But I still don’t understand the business about the “time stamp.” Reading the statements so far, it seems that they’ve avoided getting specific about how it arrived.
Whatever the case, I do believe that NBC didn’t know about this package until today.
I will be absolutely damned if I'll contribute to NBC's ratings windfall.
I don't need a peek into this sicko's mind that bad.
Why is NBC saying ‘timestamped’ instead of ‘postmarked’?
sorry - i meant funny as in “strange” not funny “ha ha.”
Per Jack Thompson, atty for some in the Paducah, KY school shooting:
Video game, Counterstrike, may have been involved. Cho played it on the computer. Per Cho’s high school acquaintances.
[Perp in the German school shooting was also involved in the same computer game.]
Thompson is saying this (the shooting) was a ‘body count’ game. He also says that, for Cho to have pulled this off as he did, he had to have trained for it (via computer).
Just you. *any* news org would do the same.
Hi Hair. Sorry. I disagree and encourage reading them. There are posts regarding his mental status and why this wasn't picked up in a background check that we all have to suffer thru. I think there are some other really good comments there too. You have a right to your opinion but I think you should encourage folks to read and decide for themselves.
There is also a USPS timestamp on the envelope from when it was processed.
They can probably tell on the postmark what ~time~ it was postmarked, and they find the time interesting, because it appears it was mailed between the shootings. That in itself is interesting.
He used FedEx and thus has a time stamp.
I’m just surprised they (the FBI) said Yes and let them have a copy. Freedom of press, I guess. And perhaps because the shooter is dead so there is no need to retain integrity of evidence for future criminal case.
Could be. It may have been a twisted attempt to shelter his parents or his ID.
Seems he initially shot the two to death, wandered over to his dorm room, knowing the would eventually get him for the first murders, he apparently has plenty of time, he puts together a package of photos, videos and writings, drops it in the mail, loads up his weapons, extra clips and decides to go out in a bloody murderous blaze.
There is no doubt, this guy had planned something for a long time..
That may indicate and email...they don't get postmarked.
Maybe he wanted Imus’ time slot.
That NBC turned over the ‘originals’ and is showing ‘copies’ of the ‘manifesto’ seems like evidence tampering to me. As soon as they realized what they had, it was their duty to turn it over immediately, not make copies of everything first.
CNN is wrong..he was ordered to see a shrink who cleared him..no conviction in court, no record, no shows up on the background check..the headline misrepresents the story..
I would make a copy of anything I was going to turn over to the government. I learned a long time ago that you never give the original of anything, to anyone without a copy:’)
Yes, but Thompson’s a kook who blames every killing on video games.
Fine.... read the first 100 post where no one knows anything and most of what was said was wrong. Be my guest, I am not stopping anyone. Mine was just a suggestion. ;~)
yes. The guy did great damage. Rush is wrong on this one. Safeguards on so many levels broke down.
And if we dont learn from this, there WILL be more incidents.
For instance, I cant understand why a school like VT does not require ROTC to train and carry firearms. The profs could also take the same ROTC gun course.
ROTC kids could even get 1K of ‘marshall pay’ per semester. An added bonus would be that ROTC would get more respect on campus and the armed forces in general.
It would also get rid of the weenie argument of too many loose guns running round campus.
And that would have been leaked by now.
It seems he had a sick rage, and maybe against government, Bush, the war, America, and NBC will exploit that.
Or his rage was focused on his school, culture, ect.
It seems that they will stretch out the release, all week.
Let me get this right. The guy has time to:
1) Kill the girl he was stalking and an adviser who came to her aid in a crowded dormatory.
2) Mail a letter and video to NBC.
3) Reload his glock and stock up on ammo.
4) Shoot 60 more people two hours later.
Makes me wonder if he took time out for a Latte as well.
The "Duh" was for me, not you. Sorry again
This could be nuclear to NBC. If the ramblings are in anyway an indictment of a politically favored class [Islam] then NBC’s audience of DU’ers and lefties will beat NBC to death. However if they hold back [and word will ultimately get out], their stock goes down as a “news” organization. Not that their stock as a news org. is stellar, anyway. HA!
the caller on rush’s show yesterday predicted this.
Another thread said FedEx. Shouldn’t that have gotten there sooner than TWO DAYS?
He found out that Olberman was as frustrated with women as he was, and wanted to commiserate?
Seems fortunate that the mail was picked up in that two hour window and ‘timestamped’, as in processed. Something seems fishy about this story. Although there may be a mail office on campus which means he had to have it weighed and postage paid to a person behind a counter.
I’m not sure I believe that.
Presumably he sent it via express mail.
<< Network officials turned the material over to the FBI and said they would not immediately disclose its contents beyond characterizing the material as disturbing. >>
You can be sure of few things in this life, but one of them is, that if these materials indicated that he did this crime
- in order to object to the practice of abortion in this country
- under some warped idea of Christianity,
- or any other so-called “right wing” motive,
we would already know that by now.
Odd time to be frugal.
One day to get there, sits on someone’s desk or in the mailroom until someone happens to notice who it was from.
See 269. It appears that is what occurred.
I think he had something else planned, but couldn’t help himself, and just murdered the first two people, probably breaking this own twisted plan...And it went from there.
I feel sorry for them too. I have some “crazy” family members, and the saner ones can’t accept it. Only outside, objective sources are able to see it.
If he printed the post electronically (like through payapl or stamps.com), many times the postage will have the date and, IIRC, time stamped on the postage.
Or the videotape may have the timestamp on it or CD may have had a time code showing when it was burned. I don’t think there’s a deep conspiracy here, just that NBC has some knowledge that shows when Cho sent it out.
The media knows what they are doing. There are times they hold all the cards and play their hand after they’ve gotten their talking points out there.
If this is a jihadist attack (or other hate crime) then the focus would not have been on “gun grabbing” which was the original knee jerk reaction. They’ll get their talking points out there by hook or by crook.
the timestamp on the package indicates it was..