Posted on 04/19/2007 7:19:43 PM PDT by 11th_VA
Edited on 04/20/2007 1:05:35 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The brooding silence of Cho Seung-hui was so impenetrable it disturbed his family even when he was a boy growing up in South Korea, relatives of the Virginia killer told the Guardian today.
His grandfather feared Cho, at eight, might be mute; the boy's great aunt worried that he had mental problems. And his mother, Kim Hyang-im, spent most of her time in church praying for him to snap out of his unhealthy taciturnity.
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People like that always blame someone else for their problems. I sure am not sympathizing with this guy, he was pure evil. Perhaps if he had had help when young it might have changed his life.
Clinically Withdrawn - that’s a new one.
Sudden Jihad Syndrome, lol. Good one! Pelosi has it too!
I am so amazed that the Asian waitresses and waiters and chefs at the many good Chinese and other oriental cuisine eateries here do attempt to terminate me! Evil is sometimes just evil You do not diagnose it or analyze it. You just deal with it before it deals with you
How insensitive!
Not necessarily. He may have had different suitemates in senior year than those he had in freshman year, whom his mother spoke to.
Excellent post.
I really don’t think ethnicity had anything to do with this. There are plenty of European-Americans who have had these types of violence disorders. It has troubled me when the media has participated in characterizing a Korean person as “Chinese”. That’s like calling a native of Texas “Canadian.”
Beyond that
The buy suddenly hesitated, stuttered, blinked very fast when hit with a few more questons
The interviewer knew how to question him
If you’ve been in lots of situations in management, sales, interviewing, etc
You get so you can almost tell what someone is thinking and how much money is in their wallet and what the credit cards can handle
Watching those video clips again might help some spot it
I’ve know some who can do it pretty well just on a phone call
Spooky talent sometimes
But handy
What do Chinese restaurants have to do with this? They are an entirely different people. It is like saying “Irish” when speaking of a German. Both white Europeans, but one is a Celt and the other a Teuton.
What exactly are you even talking about?
I thought the same thing, especially after reading the McBeef script. Playright kills off his real father and transfers rage to the stepdad, who does seem to be innocent. Fantasies of mother stepping in and saving him.
Nothing
Those from abroad who have moved into this area where I am who work at entry level or slightly above jobs making not much income and work long hours do not think they are “tortured & oppressed” like Cho
He was living in a safe comfortable enviroment and allegedly getting a 4.0 with graduation soon
But his own writing would not get him an entry level job sweeping floors in a small newspaper
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Australian
Cambodian
NC barbeque
People just don’t go fruit loops with firearms like that nut did
Cho had only one cure
A Blue Glaser
Certainly that is plausible. And an immediate thought to any counselor reading his plays online.
It is also plausible that he had homosexual ideations early on and that the abuse stuff is indicative of the conflicted internal states surrounding the homosexual ideations; the press to be heterosexual; loving a distant, cold maybe harsh father etc. The dad did not HAVE to physically molest him for such ideations to accrue. But, it is also plausible that he did or that another accessible male did.
Given the assertion of the dad doting on his kids, I kind of doubt now that he actually physically sexually molested the boy. My suspicion is modified from my earlier one that he was totally cold, harsh, emotionally distant etc.
Probabaly the first 5 years or so he played with the kids a lot. But the kid’s icy silence and withdrawn state would have been bewildering and very troublesome to such a dad. He’d have likely gravitated easily and understandably to the brighter daughter who was communicative. That would have exacerbated the son’s problems.
The dad would not likely have known much of anything about breaking through the Aspergers Syndrome or similar psychology. He could have easily responded with coldness and harshness further pushing the boy into his shell.
Asperger’s Syndrome would have made things many times worse. Add in homosexual thoughts and feelings on the boy’s part and things escalate more emotionally, interpersonally, psychodynamically. Add in rejection by classmates . . . and video games. Aaaaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhh—clearly what a disaster in the making.
Genetics can set up 20-50% psychological factors of personality and predispositions to such problems as Asperger’s Syndrome, hyper-sensitivity; introversion etc. Short of a brain tumor, I am not aware of it setting up meanness or violence specifically.
Now, spiritual demonic forces hovering around families for 3-4 or more generations, I’ve seen that plenty. Many such things have traveled down through the generations beginning with some horrendous ‘inroad’ provided in some ancestor’s past by some gross evil or witchcraft or some such.
In this kids case, looks like he had plenty of genetic predisposition to being an extremely difficult kid to raise with parents who were out of their league with such problems. The video games etc. could have given inroads to demonic influence. It is also possible that there was some sort of generational thing. Scripture says the sins of the fathers visiting the children to the 3rd and 4th generation.
That’s plausible but I don’t know of any specific evidence of that so far. The games alone could have explained the inroads. But I have never observed, in counseling, that level of meanness WITHOUT demonic influence of some sort.
Excellent suggestion.
I think there are also computer programs designed to help with such problems.
My co-worker ended his story with a pronouncement that keeps coming back to me when reading articles like this one:
Sometimes you just get a bad apple.
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I have examined every such case that’s entered my network for more than 50 years. I have never observed that. I could always point to parenting lacks, deficiencies, complicit destructive behaviors etc—including with my adopted sister and my parents who felt as you stated above.
In this kid’s case, his genetic predispositions plus his culature and his parents’ limited abilities to help with his set of problems and challenges seems like a set-up for disaster. I think the parents did the best they knew how. It was not enough to deal with a kid like this.
Given parents innate denial of how bad such things are—especially for a fase issue sort of Asian family—it’s a set-up.
This kid needed heavy duty intervention from the earliest years. I don’t know hnow available that was to the parents or even how aware they were of such issues. The family knew they had a serious problem and tried to cope—seemingly insufficiently. I doubt in Korea at the time that such help was readily available. And there was probably a stigma attached to seeking it.
Yep. Her real boyfriend went to college about 8-10 miles up the road at Radford University, so I read, and got stopped on the side of the highway between Radford and Blacksburg, handcuffed, and detained. The police were talking to him when word came in about the Norris Hall shootings.
It’s a logical thought process to assume that he’d be a “person of interest” in that first shooting. I know it’s popular to Monday-morning quarterback what the VT administration and the various police agencies (the VT campus police, the Blacksburg PD, and the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Department) did on the day of the shooting, but IMO, if they dropped the ball, they did it in 2005 and 2006 in dealing with Cho’s behavior, not with anything they did on that horrible Monday morning.
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Thank you—you filled in a lot of the blanks for me. I can understand why VT thought the crisis was over. It looked like an isolated domestic dispute.
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