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Shooting at Johnson Space Center (Updates at 487 & 488)
Fox News ^ | 04-20-07 | WestVirginiaRebel

Posted on 04/20/2007 12:38:13 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel

Fox News reporting a shooting at the Johnson Space Center Building 44, building evacuated.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: astronut; cho; copycat; losersyndrome; shooting
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To: Rte66
That big blue hummer-type truck

Its the CSI Hummer.

301 posted on 04/20/2007 2:14:50 PM PDT by Dog
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To: jhw61

“Hey it’s Friday, maybe he got the pink slip.”

Jacobs Engineering, a NASA contractor, confirms that the gunman is one of its employees.

There are unconfirmed reports that the man was going to be fired on Friday.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/crime/stories/khou070420_mh_jscevacuation.2acd63a6.html


302 posted on 04/20/2007 2:15:08 PM PDT by blogblogginaway (..)
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To: bnelson44

I know.


303 posted on 04/20/2007 2:15:22 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: GunnyHartman

The VAFB Shuttle facility was converted to an unmanned launch facility. For polar orbiting stuff, we launch out of VAFB. You can lanch to the south over water. For equatorial stuff we use Florida. Again launching over water.


304 posted on 04/20/2007 2:15:29 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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Does the building in question have outside windows?


305 posted on 04/20/2007 2:15:31 PM PDT by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: NickatNite2003

Lock him in and turn off the lights and put the A/C on 40 degrees while blaring teletubbies songs over the loudspeaker over and over.


306 posted on 04/20/2007 2:15:41 PM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Dog

Nothing more than what you see on TV.


307 posted on 04/20/2007 2:16:11 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: blogblogginaway

no way.


308 posted on 04/20/2007 2:16:19 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: TomGuy

OK,all. My daughter-in-law & granddaughter are there at NASA right now. They were touring the Space Center on a field trip with their Charter School. They were on lockdown but have been allowed to get on the bus. They are now on their way out.

We are breathing huge sighs of relief here!!!


309 posted on 04/20/2007 2:17:22 PM PDT by nana4bush
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I hope and pray with all my heart this is resolved without bloodshed.


310 posted on 04/20/2007 2:17:25 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

You want the libs to scream TORTURE?


311 posted on 04/20/2007 2:18:03 PM PDT by debg
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To: RadioAstronomer

Amen to that!


312 posted on 04/20/2007 2:18:35 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: nana4bush

I bet you are. Whew. What a field trip, huh?


313 posted on 04/20/2007 2:18:55 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: nana4bush

Great news!


314 posted on 04/20/2007 2:19:20 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

I noticed Bo Deedle (sp) on FoxNews. (I have it muted.)

Yesterday he was ranting that VT (all 2600 acres) should have gone on lockdown at the first incident Monday.

I wonder whether he is ranting that Houston should go on lock down, or at least the JSC campus? News reporter said that the overall JSC campus (1600 acres) is NOT on lockdown.


315 posted on 04/20/2007 2:19:30 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: All

Oh, I see - they’re trying to be “vague” about where the SWAT officers are in the building right now, because of the possibility of TVs inside.

There is a “safe side” of the building, where the cops outside don’t look too worried hanging out there.

Even tho all the JSC employees have been told to go home now, the building where they are running the mission for the ISS guys coming back to Russia tomorrow *is* on lockdown. And there are several backups for that, if something were to happen there.

(They’re acting like it’s not Mission Control, for some reason - but I don’t know what else it would be.)


316 posted on 04/20/2007 2:19:46 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: nana4bush

Good for you.

I know you must feel bad for a short time not knowing anything.


317 posted on 04/20/2007 2:19:48 PM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: bnelson44
They closed down the mental health hospitals... where are they to go?

“In the city of Venice
Right by Mike’s house
You can chill if you’re homeless”

/South Park

318 posted on 04/20/2007 2:20:04 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: nana4bush

Thank heavens. Glad everything is OK for you now.


319 posted on 04/20/2007 2:20:17 PM PDT by debg
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To: Spktyr
Technically, it’s FedLand, not Texas. It’s surrounded by Texas, but it is Federal land and Fed laws apply.

Has Texas surrendered its rights to the Johnson Space Center? Otherwise the mere fact that the Feds own it does not make it a Federal enclave. Because Texas was a sovereign nation before joining the union, the Federal Government never "owned" Texas land.

I know of Military Bases where the State of Texas has surrendered its sovereign authority, so a DWI there can be a Federal crime. I wouldn't be surprised if the Feds demanded such a surrender in exchange for the billions they have spent at Johnson Space Center.

320 posted on 04/20/2007 2:20:54 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: nana4bush

(((Hugs)))


321 posted on 04/20/2007 2:21:02 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: CindyDawg

Yeah some field trip for sure. I could hear the NASA tour guide in the background trying to settle the kids down. Cell phone call from them alerted me to the news. She wanted to know what was going on as they were not being told too much.


322 posted on 04/20/2007 2:21:27 PM PDT by nana4bush
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To: RadioAstronomer

We all do RadioAstronomer.I am praying.


323 posted on 04/20/2007 2:21:48 PM PDT by fatima (Shut up Murtha)
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To: Pilsner

You are sweating the small stuff. The Feds may think they own stuff here but we all know who it really belongs to:’)


324 posted on 04/20/2007 2:22:55 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: HOTTIEBOY

She said they were in the building right next to Building 44! We were freaking out for a while.


325 posted on 04/20/2007 2:23:24 PM PDT by nana4bush
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Wow!

Time for you to chill out. LOL!

326 posted on 04/20/2007 2:23:37 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: All

HPD has allowed media to come inside the police lines now - and there will be a press conference shortly.


327 posted on 04/20/2007 2:23:53 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: nana4bush

Home to be tucked in and squeezed tighter tonight! Thank God.


328 posted on 04/20/2007 2:23:56 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: Rte66

That is very interesting.


329 posted on 04/20/2007 2:24:18 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Rte66

Sounds like they have him.


330 posted on 04/20/2007 2:24:31 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

KPRC 2 reporter is saying Command Post in on the right side of the building (away from where suspect is thought to be). The SWAT on the otherside of the building are very alert in their movements.

KPRC is NOT showing the actual movements of SWAT on the ground.


331 posted on 04/20/2007 2:24:45 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

When I saw the headline, my first thought was “Where is Lisa Nowak?”


332 posted on 04/20/2007 2:26:51 PM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: Pilsner

In terms of the law, JSC *is* a Fed military base.


333 posted on 04/20/2007 2:27:22 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Pilsner

I believe the property actually belongs to Rice University, or used to.


334 posted on 04/20/2007 2:28:24 PM PDT by 38special (I mean come'on.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

KPRC 2 reporter says he thinks this will be over within 30 minutes, as the SWAT are moving.

In another part of the campus, they (officials) are setting up microphones in prepartion for a news conference.

Traffic on the regular highways and streets are running normally (which isn’t saying much for this time of day in Houston).


335 posted on 04/20/2007 2:29:13 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: jhw61

They have a long ride ahead to North Louisiana tonight. So still praying for a safe trip home and some extra hugs when they arrive. Thanks all for the well wishes.


336 posted on 04/20/2007 2:29:54 PM PDT by nana4bush
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To: nana4bush

That is a long trip. Prayers


337 posted on 04/20/2007 2:30:47 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SF Republican
IN TEXAS - LOL

Yeah... a real kick in the a$$ isn't it? Sucks to think that Texas actually has some pretty restrictive CCW laws compared to Vermont, Alaska, and even South Dakota.

338 posted on 04/20/2007 2:31:04 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Pub Linkser--80

COUP is the acronym of the Russian mission control center.


339 posted on 04/20/2007 2:31:54 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: TomGuy

I just got home and don’t have time to read this whole thing. Was anyone hurt?


341 posted on 04/20/2007 2:32:14 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq ( IN)
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To: Dead Corpse

CCW laws dipped in pork.


342 posted on 04/20/2007 2:32:17 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

Don’t know if that’s been resolved yet.


343 posted on 04/20/2007 2:33:49 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

No one knows at this point, it’s still an active situation. The man, 50 - 60 years old, is still barracaded within the building. Channel 11 (CBS) is not giving much information at this time.


344 posted on 04/20/2007 2:34:35 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Police Conference: 2 shots were fired. Witness said he did see the Perp with a weapon earlier.

Barracaded in a room. No communication (that they are telling us) established with Perp, but they are trying to establish communications with him.

No confirmation that Perp is even still alive.

Object of first 2 shots, unknown. Shots were after Perp had entered building.

No known motive.

Negotiators have been unsuccessful in establishing communications with Perp. Perp may be refusing any comm attempts.


345 posted on 04/20/2007 2:35:11 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: All

NASA news conference - HPD

shortly before 2, call that possible shots fired ... two shots confirmed ... suspect in bldg ... SWAT is inside ... 50-year-old suspect, one man ... we don’t know if there is another person inside with him ... not sure what kind of weapon he has ... have not yet established communication with the gunman ... he *is* barricaded in there ... can’t confirm about Jacobs or not ... can’t confirm whether he is still alive or not ... unknown if the first shots were directed at anyone or anything, but they were fired inside the bldg ... no police officers have seen the POI yet, only the initial employee witness ... NASA spksprsn on now.


346 posted on 04/20/2007 2:35:18 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

Switch to Fox. Spokesperson giving update and Q/A. Not known if anyone shot at.


347 posted on 04/20/2007 2:35:27 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: girlscout
No one knows at this point, it’s still an active situation. The man, 50 - 60 years old, is still barracaded within the building. Channel 11 (CBS) is not giving much information at this time.

I bet he plays too many video games!

348 posted on 04/20/2007 2:35:30 PM PDT by PureSolace (God save us all)
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To: PureSolace

We need to get to the reason WHY within the next 30 minutes!


349 posted on 04/20/2007 2:36:20 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: TomGuy

From the press conf-

-an employee of NASA is a witness to seeing the man with a gun- 2-3 shots were “heard”.
-No one knows if all NASA employees of #44 are accounted for..no one knows if anyone is injured.
- No one knows if the gunman is dead or alive, they are still attempting to set up communication with him...


350 posted on 04/20/2007 2:36:28 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet & FredFan)
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