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Poll Results by States on Confederate Battle Flag in S.C
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Posted on 04/21/2007 7:44:44 AM PDT by BnBlFlag

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?pollId=44465


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
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To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH

Well lets see

Who is one of our best allies in Iraq... Briton we had our first war with them, and a second to boot. What about one of our best allies in the Pacific heck they surprise attacked us and we nuked them.

Yes, we let go of wars over time!


101 posted on 04/30/2007 11:14:13 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Non-Sequitur

The war over the right to fly the Confederate flag on the state capital grounds or states rights — as stated in Post 33 which prompted your response. (Damn, you’re not gonna do that thing where you can’t keep up with your own comments again, are you?)

“All the aggressive actions were on the part of the South.”

I can only assume that you are referring to actually War Between the States rather than the hypothetical one — but who knows? “ALL” of the aggressive actions were on the part of the South? LOL! Even you know better than that.


102 posted on 04/30/2007 11:18:10 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: N3WBI3

With the strength of southern boys in the United States military I think the south is probably the military’s best resource. Let’s just work together to fight an even bigger threat to our country. The enemy is within our own government.


103 posted on 04/30/2007 11:31:20 AM PDT by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Help stamp out liberalism!)
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To: tkathy
Hanging onto the long dead past is destroying the Republican Party.

How do you figure that? The once solidly Democratic south is now solidly conservative Republican from the Ohio river to the gulf of Mexico, and from the Virginia coast to the AZ desert. Take away the former Confederate states and politically speaking the northeastern states would be just an extension of Canada.

But I am a little surprised by the size of the opposition in some of the western states. A large percentage of the original settlers in much of the west were southerners who were dispossessed of their homes and property by Yankee carpetbaggers and southern scalawags during the 15 year long era of vengeful Reconstruction tyranny enforced on white southerners by Yankee bayonets. If that fool Booth had not murdered Lincoln I believe the south would have fared much better after the war.

104 posted on 04/30/2007 11:32:21 AM PDT by epow (Outside of the killings, DC has one of the lowest crime rates in the country." Mayor Marion Barry, M)
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To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH
Hey I’m with you, I'm just sick of all this ‘Damn Yankee’ crap when I agree that its only up to people in SC what flag flys there.
105 posted on 04/30/2007 11:39:55 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: upchuck

Replace it with the BONNIE BLUE FLAG!


106 posted on 04/30/2007 11:48:20 AM PDT by agincourt1415 (Nancy Pelosi, the enemy within)
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To: Tokra
I don't. Just what is it that we are going to repeat?

Slavery?

Oh please.

Another Civil War?

Another? There was never a first 'civil war'. (look up the definition of 'civil war')

You scoff at the Confederate flag issue. "Remove it from the Capital grounds!", you scream. But that won't satisfy you libs. You'll want it banned from all public display because you see it as a devisive symbol, and to hell with the 1st Amendment (or any other amendment) when we're talking about offending a certain segment of the US population.

107 posted on 04/30/2007 12:19:11 PM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: Lee'sGhost
The war over the right to fly the Confederate flag on the state capital grounds or states rights — as stated in Post 33 which prompted your response. (Damn, you’re not gonna do that thing where you can’t keep up with your own comments again, are you?)

Actually it would be more like ESPN telling South Carolina what to do. Nowhere in this article is any suggestion that the federal government tell South Carolina to take the flag down. Unless I missed it somewhere.

“ALL” of the aggressive actions were on the part of the South? LOL! Even you know better than that.

Point out the aggressive acts on the part of the North for me.

108 posted on 04/30/2007 12:21:27 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
“Nowhere in this article is any suggestion that the federal government tell South Carolina to take the flag down. Unless I missed it somewhere.”

Then why post banal comments? Or more important, why do I bother responding to your banal comments?

“Point out the aggressive acts on the part of the North for me.”

Uh, how about almost every attack the north perpetrated upon the South? What, are you saying that sending troops to the South and attacking southerners were defensive moves?

109 posted on 04/30/2007 12:41:25 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: N3WBI3

Can’t blame you for not wanting to be called a “damn yankee”. I personally reserve that title for the ones who want to continue forcing their liberal views on the south.


110 posted on 04/30/2007 12:45:32 PM PDT by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Help stamp out liberalism!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Uh, how about almost every attack the north perpetrated upon the South? What, are you saying that sending troops to the South and attacking southerners were defensive moves?

It's called fighting the war that the other side started. Or are you saying that merely hanging on to your own property is an act of war?

111 posted on 04/30/2007 12:46:32 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yeah. You’re right. Can’t argue with such astounding logic. Sending a ship to resupply a fort that no longer belongs to you certainly isn’t an act of agression. Nope.


112 posted on 04/30/2007 1:14:00 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH

How about you call them what I call southern liberals like Al Gore, Bubba, Jimma Catah..... Damn Liberals..


113 posted on 04/30/2007 1:18:34 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Sending a ship to resupply a fort that no longer belongs to you certainly isn’t an act of agression. Nope.

Who said the fort no longer belonged to them? What rule of law will transfer ownership without the owners consent and without compensation?

Refusing to sit back and allow the South to steal whatever federal property they could get their mitts on is not an act of aggression.

114 posted on 04/30/2007 1:32:00 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: BnBlFlag
That map makes it look like the Mason-Dixon line still exists.

Interestingly, CA and SC are exact opposites (63-37 and 37-63).

I really need to move to SC.

115 posted on 04/30/2007 1:34:43 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: tkathy
laughing AT you, FOOL, as MOST here do!

free dixie,sw

116 posted on 04/30/2007 2:12:16 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
laughing AT your PITIFULLY dumb post.

free dixie,sw

117 posted on 04/30/2007 2:13:07 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: N3WBI3
are you a DAMNyankee??? (i'd never thought that of you.)

to BE a DAMNyankee you MUST:

1. BE one of the LOUD-mouthed,10-15% of northerners, who are truly south-HATERS,

2. BELIEVE that southerners & the south are INFERIOR to the north & northerners,

3. BELIEVE southern institutions are NATURALLY inferior to similar things/places "up there",

4.BE an UNthinking, sanctimonious BIGOT &

5. BE unwilling to learn the truth about the south & southerners.

as my grandfather used to say: "a DAMNyankee is a BIGOT & if they were NOT prejudiced against the southland, they would be some other sort of empty-headed BIGOT".

IF you would prefer NOT to be called a DAMNyankee, then don't think/act like one.

free dixie,sw

118 posted on 04/30/2007 2:24:26 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: N3WBI3
just for the record, "al BORE" claimed TN, but he never REALLY lived there.he's spent virtually all his life in DC & is an "inside the beltway type", eating at the public trough, clear to his marrow.

btw, "al BORE" is a SCALAWAG & is UNwelcome in "polite company" anywhere in dixie. DC is welcome to him.

free dixie,sw

119 posted on 04/30/2007 2:27:32 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Tokra
actually, you should go do some reading on the CORWIN AMENDMENT, so that you don't look foolish. it passed BOTH houses & was perfectly ACCEPTABLE to "DIShonest abe, the TYRANT".

the amendment would have made slavery PERMANENT & protected by the Constitution.

also, the WBTS was ONLY about FREEDOM for dixie. nothing more;nothing less.

free dixie,sw

120 posted on 04/30/2007 2:30:43 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: N3WBI3

He was a different Al Gore then. Prolife progun antigay good old boy. He did a complete 160 when he got the vice presidency. He is a deranged lunatic now.


121 posted on 04/30/2007 2:34:26 PM PDT by beckysueb
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To: Tokra; All
see post # 118 & take it to heart. i've posted the definition of a DAMNyankee at least 50 times on FR (including at least ONCE directly to you)& the DAMNyankees here always say that we southerners are "insulting" all the people of the north.

thus, i conclude that the DYs who say that repeatedly, are either STUPID or intentionally LYING, like the BIGOTED, DIMocRAT, extremists that most DYs are.

as i said in #118, IF you don't want to be thought to be a DY, don't act/think like one.

free dixie,sw

122 posted on 04/30/2007 2:37:23 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: BnBlFlag
Put up by Ernest Hollings in response to calls from the Feds to integrate.

Anyone who doesn't believe that the Battle Flag's placement in SC is NOT race related must be smoking some of Willie Nelson's stash, not that there's anything wrong with it...

Still waiting for the gays to adopt the confederate flag as their own.

123 posted on 04/30/2007 2:41:26 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH
take away FFX & ARL counties & the city of ALEX & VA is a SOLID RED state!

we traditional southerners call that area "up there", "Yankee-occupied Virginia".

free dixie,sw

124 posted on 04/30/2007 2:41:29 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH
EXACTLY!

free dixie,sw

125 posted on 04/30/2007 2:42:06 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Seruzawa

Mormons were against slavery, although they did not allow people of color into their church for several decades.


126 posted on 04/30/2007 2:42:12 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: Chili Girl
dixie awaits your ARRIVAL with bated breath.

free diixe,sw

127 posted on 04/30/2007 2:43:59 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Chili Girl
dixie awaits your ARRIVAL with bated breath.

free dixie,sw

128 posted on 04/30/2007 2:44:14 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Refusing to sit back and allow the South to steal whatever federal property they could get their mitts on is not an act of aggression.

You are so full of it. The south didn't want the norths land. They just wanted to keep their own land from the hands of the north. It was all about the right to secede from the union. The north didn't care about slavery. They needed our cotton and tobacco. Of course that fact stopped being taught years ago when history was rewrote.

129 posted on 04/30/2007 2:44:56 PM PDT by beckysueb
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To: stand watie
to BE a DAMNyankee you MUST: 1. BE one of the LOUD-mouthed,10-15% of northerners, who are truly south-HATERS, 2. BELIEVE that southerners & the south are INFERIOR to the north & northerners, 3. BELIEVE southern institutions are NATURALLY inferior to similar things/places "up there", 4.BE an UNthinking, sanctimonious BIGOT & 5. BE unwilling to learn the truth about the south & southerners.

I don't always agree with you, watie, but darned if you didn't hit the nail on the head with this description!

130 posted on 04/30/2007 2:48:43 PM PDT by beckysueb
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To: tkathy

On the contrary.

The “Southern Strategy” revitalized the GOP and led to its many victories from 1968 on.


131 posted on 04/30/2007 2:52:42 PM PDT by ProudCopperhead
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To: beckysueb
fyi, i don't EXPECT everyone to agree with me, as i'm NOT infallable, as SOME of the DYs on FR claim to be. (N-S for ONE. i once asked him if there was anything that he was NOT an "expert" on. he said that he couldn't think of anything. THAT is called being : "a know all".)

as i frequently say to my beloved, "You have to be patient with me. God isn't though with me yet." my faults are LEGION, but i'm 100% right about DAMNyankee BIGOTS; they are ARROGANT,UNthinking, south-HATERS, who are NO BETTER than racists.

free dixie,sw

132 posted on 04/30/2007 2:58:32 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: tkathy

You are still here? I thought Mr. Robinson got rid of all the liberal Rudy pukes. How’d he miss you?


133 posted on 04/30/2007 2:58:45 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: stand watie
the amendment would have made slavery PERMANENT & protected by the Constitution.

However, any state would have been able to end slavery on its own. As Lincoln said in his first inaugural, the Corwin amendment only made explicit the idea that slavery was a state matter implicit in the Constitution ("holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable."). What made the Corwin amemdment acceptable and the Crittenden compromise unacceptable is that the latter also guaranteed slavery in the territories. But just to understand your position better, are you saying that slavery WAS a matter for the federal government over the states, or do you agree with Lincoln's position?

So, are we going to hear from your friend about that Yankees burning the Alexandria synagogue? I can't wait to forward the information to the congregation and tell them that they have their own history wrong.

134 posted on 04/30/2007 2:59:57 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: tkathy

me thinks. Miss Kathy that you are a little
tizzy from your afternoon kickapoo

Bullfrog


135 posted on 04/30/2007 3:05:11 PM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by Birth, Irish by heritage, hell raiser by choice)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Who said the fort no longer belonged to them?”

SC and the Confereracy.

“What rule of law will transfer ownership without the owners consent and without compensation?”

The same one that allowed the U.S. to keep everything in the colonies after they took it from Great Britain. But I suppose you would argue that we should give that back, too.

“Refusing to sit back and allow the South to steal whatever federal property they could get their mitts on is not an act of aggression.”

I agree. The South did not steal it, they assumed possession. (See above.)


136 posted on 04/30/2007 3:05:12 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Bullfrogg

One mildly humorous reply in response to massive insult by stand, and I get all kinds of ridicule and name calling by the big thinkers.


137 posted on 04/30/2007 3:15:00 PM PDT by tkathy
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To: Lee'sGhost
The same one that allowed the U.S. to keep everything in the colonies after they took it from Great Britain.

In other words, beating the other side in a war. For the record, Britain ceded all it's holdings in the United States in the Treaty of Paris, so there was a legal basis there.

"Article 1: His Brittanic Majesty ... relinquishes all claims to the government, propriety, and territorial rights of the same and every part thereof.

Article 7: ... his Brittanic Majesty shall with all convenient speed, and without causing any destruction, or carrying away any Negroes or other property of the American inhabitants, withdraw all his armies, garrisons, and fleets from the said United States, and from every post, place, and harbor within the same;


138 posted on 04/30/2007 3:30:12 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Lee'sGhost
SC and the Confereracy

No rule of law, huh? I thought not.

The same one that allowed the U.S. to keep everything in the colonies after they took it from Great Britain. But I suppose you would argue that we should give that back, too.

That was called the Treaty of Paris, agreed to by both sides. The proper term for what the South did was grand theft.

I agree. The South did not steal it, they assumed possession. (See above.)

So if I get mugged in the near future, the mugger is not stealing my wallet and watch but merely assuming posession?

139 posted on 04/30/2007 3:38:43 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: stand watie

Change ‘North’ to ‘South’ and you’ve just described yourself down to a tee.


140 posted on 04/30/2007 3:40:13 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: beckysueb
You are so full of it. The south didn't want the norths land. They just wanted to keep their own land from the hands of the north. It was all about the right to secede from the union. The north didn't care about slavery. They needed our cotton and tobacco. Of course that fact stopped being taught years ago when history was rewrote.

Then why did they steal every piece of federal property they could get their hands on?

141 posted on 04/30/2007 3:42:02 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: tkathy
Hanging onto the long dead past is destroying the Republican Party.

If the Pubs really did hold on to the long dead past

142 posted on 04/30/2007 3:51:23 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: StoneWall Brigade
Last year my company and a Union company both did a joint event last year in honoring a Union grave its about respect. If people want to honor Southerners who fought for Union they have every right to do so as well as Southerners who want to honor there Confederate past if anyone supports taking the confederate flag down from the memorial needs there head checked

I don't see how anybody can have issue with the mutual respect you describe. I've got no use for the CSA or the politicians who manipulated its birth, but I consider the reb soldiers to generally be honorable fellows. I just think they were unable to see that their true adversaries were their Southern "betters" who ran the Confederate show in Dixie for their own narrow interest.

143 posted on 04/30/2007 8:08:25 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: tkathy

Thank you, tweetie pie

Bullfrog


144 posted on 04/30/2007 8:39:42 PM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by Birth, Irish by heritage, hell raiser by choice)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“In other words, beating the other side in a war.”

Ahhhhh . . . so if the South had WON the war it would have been legal. Got it. Never knew the rule of law was so simple.


145 posted on 05/01/2007 7:45:44 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“So if I get mugged in the near future, the mugger is not stealing my wallet and watch but merely assuming posession?”

Well, let’s say we were neighbors and I was letting you use my lawnmower but we had a falling out. Yet one day you come over to take the mower because I had let you use it before, and I stopped you. You may call that a mugging but I would call it protecting my property. But of course I use common sense. You would use something other than common sense and I would attack you. Then you would whine about how we had an agreement — unless you were dead.


146 posted on 05/01/2007 7:51:15 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
laughing AT you, TROLL.

you've PERMANENTLY ruined YOURSELF & nothing that you post is BELIEVED by anybody here, with the possible exception of "The STUPID Club"; the club members will believe ANYTHING.

free dixie,sw

147 posted on 05/01/2007 7:59:27 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: tkathy
and you're smart enough to be "insulted"???? (i think NOT.)

free dixie,sw

148 posted on 05/01/2007 8:00:42 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
but that would be FALSE & a LIE, as you KNOW, N-S.

laughing AT you.

free dixie,sw

149 posted on 05/01/2007 8:01:50 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Clemenza
as you've been told at least TWICE on-forum, POTUS John F. Kennedy in February 1961 requested that SC fly the flag in memory of the HONORED Confederate dead of the WBTS. it had NOTHING whatever to do (as you KNOW) with race then/NOW.

frankly, what you posted is either FALSE ( because you're too clueLESS to know the TRUTH) or a KNOWING LIE.

in either case, it makes you LOOK stupid/ignorant and/or DISHONEST.

free dixie,sw

150 posted on 05/01/2007 8:14:37 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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