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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

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To: Howlin

“The so called “conservative base” is in PERPETUAL alienated mode; something offends one of them each and every day and off they go, moralizing and pontificating.”

Damn those conservatives, “morialising and pontificating” sound like a fkn liberal. Listen to yourself.

1,161 posted on 04/21/2007 11:27:42 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: flashbunny
But remember, the people who don’t like rudy are just “one issue” voters. LOL.

I'm kind of a "one issue" voter--My issue is the Constitution!

1,162 posted on 04/21/2007 11:27:44 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Peach keeps posting that every rudy supporter is being banned, that all the freepers are writing her afraid to say they support Rudy.

Look, I hate to get all technical on you, but there's no way I said that every Rudy supporter is being banned. LOL. It's amusing for you to write it that way, of course, but you know it's not true.

What did quidnick (sp?) do to get banned? Nothing that I can see. What did MiaT do to get banned and called an abortionist troll?

1,163 posted on 04/21/2007 11:27:46 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Quix

Unfortunately, this is no drill. Confidence is high.

1,164 posted on 04/21/2007 11:27:46 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Howlin; mkjessup
“Yeah, if they nominate RINO-Rudy, they’ll be putting a Democrat in the White House.”

“Who yanked your chain?”
Howlin why are you being rude... He is 100% correct.

There’s no way Rudy can win in the general election. I don’t think he can even win in Idaho, one of the reddest states in the union.

1,165 posted on 04/21/2007 11:27:50 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: mkjessup

You very well could be the most clueless poster I’ve ever seen on this forum.

And for some reason, you think you’re hilarious; you’re alone alot, aren’t you?

1,166 posted on 04/21/2007 11:28:05 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I’m waiting for that list too.

1,167 posted on 04/21/2007 11:28:33 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: M. Thatcher

Well, don’t mind me if I continue fighting for what’s right. Hint, liberalism, socialism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, gun control, taxpayer funded abortion, sanctuary for illegal aliens, ignoring the law, trampling on the constitution, etc, etc, are not right. Supporting a candidate that is guilty of all of the above is simply not the right thing to do.

I’ve always thought you were a conservative. What happened that made you support such a liberal?

1,168 posted on 04/21/2007 11:28:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: babygene

I’m not interested in talking to him.

And don’t lecture me.

1,169 posted on 04/21/2007 11:28:49 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Sure, he is, but Peach has said on this thread that he is stifling free speech by banning and purging all the pro-rudy posters.

Gosh, do you just think a lie repeated often enough is going to make people believe your little canard or what?

1,170 posted on 04/21/2007 11:28:54 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
a party that accepted independent thought, although I can see that concept is relatively foreign here.

We accept it, but we also refute it.

1,171 posted on 04/21/2007 11:28:55 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Petronski

I’m sick of this thred. I’m goin to the Canteen and listen to some music! Hang tight, ol pal!

1,172 posted on 04/21/2007 11:29:04 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: rbmillerjr

You sound like a damn (unoriginal) parrot.

1,173 posted on 04/21/2007 11:29:17 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

We have always cherished the worth of the individual, not as a tool, but because he was an individual.
***Good place to bookmark and say good night. Well said.

1,174 posted on 04/21/2007 11:29:23 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video:
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To: Howlin’re alone alot, aren’t you?

Stooping to the ad hominem tonight?

1,175 posted on 04/21/2007 11:29:42 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Spiff

I was wondering when the marshmallow would come to the bonfire.

1,176 posted on 04/21/2007 11:29:49 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
There sure are a lot of fireworks on this thread tonight! I always am surprised at the opinions of some posters who consider themselves Conservatives. Actually, from my position here on Atilla's right flank, they wouldn't make a pimple on a Conservative's fanny.

There are a lot of well meaning Freepers who are firmly to the right of the average Dim senator, but they sure as hell aren't Conservative. Just my thoughts, and offered with all due respect.

Nam Vet

1,177 posted on 04/21/2007 11:29:59 PM PDT by Nam Vet ( The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.)
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To: Jim Robinson
You asked:

They want God completely out of the picture. Why?

It is really quite simple. If our RIGHTS do not come from GOD, then where do they come from. The leftist/socialist would tell us (as Bill Clinton did years ago) that our rights come from government. And if our rights flow from government, then what government gives, government can take away.

As long as people believe that our RIGHTS come from GOD, then government cannot take them away. Remove GOD as the source of our rights, and the default position is that they come from government, and therefore they can justify restricting or eliminating them "for the common good."

1,178 posted on 04/21/2007 11:30:11 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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To: Peach; Jim Robinson
Peach has been deliberatively provacative and increasingly harsh and insulting in her attacks for several days now.
For several days now? I've had company here for a week and have barely posted. But carry on. It's getting more amusing by the minute.

I think JimRob would be doing you a favor to go ahead and drop the hammer on you now, so at least your company wouldn't feel like you were totally ignoring them.
1,179 posted on 04/21/2007 11:30:42 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I’m off duty in 30 minutes. Third-shift Rudy-haters are coming already overdue, but my replacement is late.

1,180 posted on 04/21/2007 11:30:55 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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