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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Jim Robinson

I am a conservative - we simply disagree. As I said, the Jim Robinson I thought I knew over the years would have been able to handle a political disagreement without resorting to the gutter rhetoric you’ve freely allowed here. I will never forgive you for calling me a treasonous liberal as long as I live.


1,201 posted on 04/21/2007 11:35:50 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: calcowgirl

“I’m kind of a “one issue” voter—My issue is the Constitution!”

That’s such a pesky thing. If we could just get rid of it, then there would be no reason not to support rudy!


1,202 posted on 04/21/2007 11:35:50 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Inalienable = That which cannot be transferred to another or others.


1,203 posted on 04/21/2007 11:36:05 PM PDT by jd777
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To: rbmillerjr

You don’t even know your own damn name.


1,204 posted on 04/21/2007 11:36:06 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Howlin

LOL


1,205 posted on 04/21/2007 11:36:18 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Quix

Confidence of an imminent nuclear exchange is high.


1,206 posted on 04/21/2007 11:36:21 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: rbmillerjr; Howlin
“The so called “conservative base” is in PERPETUAL alienated mode; something offends one of them each and every day and off they go, moralizing and pontificating.”
Damn those conservatives, “moralising and pontificating”..you sound like a fkn liberal. Listen to yourself.


Be patient with the mutt, it's old and cranky. Can't help itself.
1,207 posted on 04/21/2007 11:36:41 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Peach
First we were treasonous liberals. Now I’m an idiot and a liar.

Wow! You finally posted something accurate. Good job.

1,208 posted on 04/21/2007 11:36:46 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Peach

???


1,210 posted on 04/21/2007 11:37:28 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: Cold Heat

Well said.


1,211 posted on 04/21/2007 11:37:53 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I understand your logic, and agree with it in some ways. But I don't think I can go as far as you.

There are indeed many Freepers, and conservatives in general, who will not deviate from that litmus test and I understand their reasoning. But the pro-abortion candidates who are running for President on the Republican side have much more liberal baggage than just that. Do you see anyone in the field that will at least try to make significant cuts in the size of government?

1,212 posted on 04/21/2007 11:38:14 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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To: Peach
Well, since they left this morning it would be difficult to ignore them, but it’s sweet of you to be concerned.

Let me guess, they left after realizing that you were nowhere near finished posting your pro-Rudy propaganda?

Hey, it's one way to get rid of house guests, eh? LOL
1,213 posted on 04/21/2007 11:38:31 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Bigh4u2

Place marker.

Time to hit the hay.

Night all..


1,214 posted on 04/21/2007 11:38:57 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Billthedrill

And I think 9/11 changed everything.

Those people who think that Hillary is just like Rudy or Rudy just like Hillary crack me up.

Hillary hates the military and law enforcement. Rudy backs them up even when it’s not politically advantageous.

Hillary hates tax cuts. Rudy cut taxes 23 times and turned NYC’s deficit into a surplus.

Hillary wants to give us national healthcare which will bankrupt us. I could go on and on.

On social issues, Rudy is liberal. On everything else, he’s a conservative.


1,215 posted on 04/21/2007 11:39:00 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Just sayin

You obviously have mistaken me for someone who would put an actual value on something you are babbling about.

Perhaps you can look around and find some like-minded “Let’s teach ‘em a lessoner” and you all can pat yourself on the back, joking and laughing about how you’ve sure showed the GOP and screwed this damn country.

Atta boy!


1,216 posted on 04/21/2007 11:39:12 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Peach
“Uh, hon, you do know that Rudy isn’t Mayor anymore don’t you? And that when he took over they had higher taxes than France and he cut taxes 23 times and turned a deficit around into a surplus.”

Actually, under Rudy it was 7110. It has come down since then. So, he shifted from taxes to fees. He gained a surplus by increasing revenue.

1,217 posted on 04/21/2007 11:40:15 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: mkjessup

Of course that’s how you’d have to dismiss me, punk.


1,218 posted on 04/21/2007 11:40:18 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: woofie

I’ve been waiting for the connection between Rudy and Anna Nicole to be explained all night.

So far no luck. Good night!


1,219 posted on 04/21/2007 11:40:47 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: Neil E. Wright

Yup. You got that exactly right.


1,220 posted on 04/21/2007 11:40:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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