Skip to comments.Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to rule over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
thank God I’m not your mother, but it sure sounds like she knows what she’s talking about.
“Thanks NU. Its an interesting thread.”
The thread has created a couple of “undocumented freepers” already.
What an absolutely stupid post.
The Giuliani supporters have a habit of lying and distorting his liberal record to try to convince us to vote for him. It has the effect of our discounting the good things that he has done.
Let’s not make the same mistake. Rudy was a great Mayor, and he is up on the Arab threat. He did a good job on 9/11.. well, people like you and I who govern ourselves with logic don’t see what the big deal is, but apparently the country thought so.
There is no need to diminish the good job that Rudy did as Mayor. The fact is, however, that basically he is a liberal and not fit to run our country.
But if that candidate can't win you are not voting for your values. You are voting for a candidate who can't win.
Shove it up your butt, punk.
No, it’s as in: conservatives who support liberal positions like abortion rights, gay rights, gun control, etc, are “betraying the conservative cause.” I do not see anything incorrect in that statement. Do you?
LOL! I am going now - enjoy your howl.
You are right, but how the hell is voting for a guy that voted for Mario Cuomo the answer?
Like in this case, your reply to Jim where you said:
Ditto with mentioning that Reagan used to be a Democrat and signed what at the time was the most liberal abortion legislation in the nation.
Now, you were saying that if you couldn't say things like that about Reagan, Jim would simply have to ban you. My question is, why do you feel you need to say that about Reagan? Because you think he was right, and therefore Rudy is also right to support abortion? Or because you think Reagan was wrong, but he later changed, and you think Rudy will change as well?
Or is it just that you think that if you point out Reagan had a flaw, but we supported him, we will have to support Rudy even though he has flaws?
What is the point of bringing up the fact that Reagan signed an abortion bill in the 1960s? Why do you bring it up?
That is my question, and your response was non-responsive to that question, and I'd really like to know the answer.
Not only do I not expect you to do that, I would shoot my computer if you ever did.
You want it both ways: you justify calling me a treasonous liberal but can’t defend it.
“I will never forgive you for calling me a treasonous liberal as long as I live.”
BOO hoo hoo...
You have no one to blame but YOURSELVES for supporting a candidate simply because you’re afraid of Hillary. If Rudy gets the nod, and Hillary beats him, YOU will be to blame. Period.
How old are you, 12?
You’re wasting your rant; he was banned.
How do you determine who can and can’t win? I thought we had elections for that? Oh yeah, I guess we should believe anything the media says and vote for who they say can win.......One poll matters and is valid, th one one voting day......in ‘writing’ by registered voters.
Nope not me. Like I said, I am voting Hunter because he has earned my vote with his actions. Maybe your predominant value is winning? Good for you, but for me other values come first win or lose.