Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[flashbunny]

You’re always the one who starts it, then tries to act like you’re the innocent victim. I remember the miers thread where you first pulled that on me.

Are you just trying to see how much you can get away with before you’re banned? You seem to be pulling out all the stops tonight to get there.

[Peach]

As I’ve said many times now, I post that about Reagan to show that we will never, ever agree with all candidates 100% of the time. It just won’t happen.

That you’ve missed that part of my posts doesn’t surprise me in the least little bit.

So just keep asking your little questions. I’m still waiting for you to back up your lie that I said ALL Rudy supporters were being banned.

[Rex Anderson]

Who should have rightly been the nominee in 2000?

[Rodney King]

We got Bush as the nominee in 2000 because he was the "anointed one." He was selected by the PTB (whoever the hell they are) and proclaimed “frontrunner” and de facto nominee by the media and all pundits before anyone else could even get out of the starting gates. He was ramrodded through over the objections from the grassroots. Kind similar to what’s going on now, but it’s even starting earlier.

Same thing with Dole in '96.

[Howlin]

If you read my tagline, you’d see who I support.

[philetus]

FR should thank Hillary for exposing Rudy.”

Rudi exposed himself LOL a long time ago.
I didn’t need Hillary to show me that He’s a flaming liberal.

[Jim Robinson]

Is there something wrong in my statement above?

[Jim Robinson]

Yup.

[M. Thatcher]

We got Bush as the nominee in 2000 because he was the "anointed one." He was selected by the PTB (whoever the hell they are) and proclaimed “frontrunner” and de facto nominee by the media and all pundits before anyone else could even get out of the starting gates. He was ramrodded through over the objections from the grassroots. Kind similar to what’s going on now, but it’s even starting earlier.

Bush won the primaries. This notion that nominees are forced on anyone is tinfoil. Same tinfoil that's going on now regarding Giuliani. If you don't want Giuliani, field a candidate who can garner more votes.

[Howlin]

Glad you showed up because we really needed some more self-righteousness.

Isn't that the truth; you're already spent all yours tonight.

[Rodney King]

As I’ve said many times now, I post that about Reagan to show that we will never, ever agree with all candidates 100% of the time. It just won’t happen.

If that was your point, then it was a bad point because Reagan was strongly pro-life by the time he ran for President.

[mkjessup]

How old are you, 12?

Why, are you looking for 12 year olds or something?

This ain't the website for you 'Rex'.

[CharlesWayneCT]

It’s the best they have, because Rudy has no anti-terrorism experience, he has no foreign policy experience, he has no military experience. He was the mayor of a large city with an even larger bloated government, with a governor and a state above him to protect him and give him outside revenue and other infrastructure. He was a small enough fish in the scheme of things that he could be petulant without to much harm, like summarily overriding the government’s foreign policy when it suited his fancy.

[Politicalmom]

That’s a woman posting that porn? Notice I didn’t say lady.

[Spiff]

You’re the one threatening a 7-year FR poster who voted twice for Reagan, in fact never voted for a Democrat, who followed her husband through his Army postings, who continued to be strongly pro-military despite his two tours in Korea, with banishment. At least as I’m typing this, Jim hasn’t threatened me, and if it gets to that point that he bans me, then there probably isn’t much use in my hanging out here, occasionally learning good and bad from people with stronger viewpoints than my own, occasionally posting things I do feel strongly about (such as separation of church and state).

Benedict Arnold won several battles and received many medals and commendations. And then...

[Rodney King]

Bush won the primaries. This notion that nominees are forced on anyone is tinfoil. Same tinfoil that's going on now regarding Giuliani. If you don't want Giuliani, field a candidate who can garner more votes.

That is what we are doing. It is the Rudy side that says they have the only candidate who can win, and if we don't get behind him Hillary will be President. Just see post #50.

[Centurion2000]

Dumbass

So leave already ya carpetbagger. Opus is ready when you are.

[NapkinUser]

"If you read my tagline, you’d see who I support." I can see that clearly. It says Fred Thompson. This is a Rudy Giuliani thread. Why are you on this thread going after conservatives who oppose Giuliani? It would make since if this was an anti-Thompson thread, but it ain't.

[Peach]

They’d rather spend their time trashing the frontrunner instead of trying to boost their candidate.

Same as they did in 2000 when they were calling Bush a cokehead and pushing Alan Keyes. There are a lot of freepers who are feeling marginalized that they can’t pick a winner.

[Rex Anderson]

Immature and classless.