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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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1,361 posted on 04/22/2007 12:19:29 AM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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Hi. I'm looking for my dog Rusty. He didn't come home last night.
1,362 posted on 04/22/2007 12:19:32 AM PDT by nunya bidness (That ain't cucumber dressing!)
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To: Howlin
And it's going to be Republicans that elect the next president.

Or fail, if the moderates turn their backs on a conservative nominee the way they did in 1964.

1,363 posted on 04/22/2007 12:19:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Jim Robinson

And come to think of it, Bob Dole wasn’t my choice in 1996. I originally backed the Phil Gramm!

But I sure as hell voted for Dole/Kemp.


1,364 posted on 04/22/2007 12:19:58 AM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Peach; Blackirish; CharlesWayneCT
NYC’s economy is exceeded only by 6 or 7 states.

I looked it up out of curiosity: New York City's GDP (457M) is exceeded only by California (1622M), Texas (989M), Florida (673M), Illinois (560M), the rest of New York State (501M), and Pennsylvania (489M).

1,365 posted on 04/22/2007 12:20:06 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: Twink
His response to 9-11 was heroic.

Name 3 things he did on 9/11 or afterwards that were "heroic".

1,366 posted on 04/22/2007 12:20:08 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you really expect me to do that?
I'm glad to see that you won't "stoop" either.
1,367 posted on 04/22/2007 12:20:16 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: presently no screen name

There’s a freeper on this thread who said that very thing. It’s amazing. And management is fine with that position.

But support a Republican that management doesn’t like, and oh my, all heck breaks loose.


1,368 posted on 04/22/2007 12:20:17 AM PDT by Peach
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To: L.N. Smithee
In what universe is a mayor who endorses the "sanctuary city" nonsense strong on national security?

Stepping back for a second: In what universe are "strong on national security" and "social conservative" mutually exclusive? Only in the twisted mind of a liberal trying to elect a liberal in the GOP primary.

1,369 posted on 04/22/2007 12:20:30 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: M. Thatcher
Ok. You’re right. The primaries are over. Today’s frontrunner is declared the winner. Let’s get to the elections. All in favor of Giuliani please signify by raising your hands. All done. Woo hoo! Let’s all go to the Rudy victory ball.

What’s that you say? Oh, you wish to have a primary fight? Sorry, that’s old hat. If you’re not for the frontrunner, you’re an ignorant fool and you just want to give the election to Hillary. Whatsa matter? You don’t believe in national security or what?? Squaaak!!

1,370 posted on 04/22/2007 12:21:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Rodney King
It is the Rudy side that says they have the only candidate who can win, and if we don't get behind him Hillary will be President.

I find that argument annoying and have said so on more than one occasion.

1,371 posted on 04/22/2007 12:21:02 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: AntiGuv

Thanks for looking that up.


1,372 posted on 04/22/2007 12:21:10 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Howlin

“Is there some new rule I missed tonight about people who support one candidate not being allowed on other candidate’s threads?” Instead of asking dumb questions you already know the answer too, why don’t you try and comprehend what I wrote? You support Thompson. You get one vote in the primary. That means you won’t be voting for Rudy Giuliani if Thompson is in it when the caucus/primary date rolls around in your respective state. So why do conservatives on this site who strongly oppose Giuliani gets your granny panties in such a wad?


1,373 posted on 04/22/2007 12:21:42 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: Marie
Hillary. I'm sorry, but I'd vote for Gore before I let her get into office. Rudy bothers me on several issues, but HC scares the crap out of me.

If Hillary gets in then your tagline will be the mildest version of what I can imagine happening. John Ross may have just been prescient.

1,374 posted on 04/22/2007 12:21:42 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Peach
When other Republicans do it, the “perfect conservatives” on FR call it pandering.

When did Giuliani become pro-life?

1,375 posted on 04/22/2007 12:21:50 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Howlin

“And you ARE a punk. Always have been, always will be.”

Yep, you’re all class, howlin.

Like the time you insinuated that I was on drugs and gay because I dared disagree with the mier’s pick.

I have never seen you be able to back up any of your posts with facts. Just blaming people for not being loyal enough like the good little GOP lapdogs you’d like us all to be. And when that doesn’t work, you start insulting people on the board.

You’ve noticed that I haven’t done the same name calling towards you - I’ve merely pointed out your pattern of behavior I’ve seen for years. You, on the other hand, easily slip into calling everyone you don’t like a name. And when you get called on it, you resort to the “Are you threatening me?? Are you trying to get me banned” act.

You’re as predictable as clockwork.


1,376 posted on 04/22/2007 12:22:07 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Peach

You call Giuliani a Republican? LOL. Guess the joke’s on you.


1,377 posted on 04/22/2007 12:22:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Rodney King

Why are you asking stupid questions? Rudy has been moderating his position on abortion, saying it’s up to the states which, last I knew, conservatives endorsed states rights.


1,378 posted on 04/22/2007 12:22:56 AM PDT by Peach
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To: M. Thatcher
Just think.

All this crazy, late night, internecine FR IN-FIGHTING could be SOLVED.

If just DAN QUAYLE would step in.

;-)

1,379 posted on 04/22/2007 12:23:19 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (The only think I don't like about FR is these darned tag lines!)
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To: Carry_Okie
Or fail, if the moderates turn their backs on a conservative nominee the way they did in 1964.

Well, that happened in 1964, 43 years ago.

Since then, it's been the "real, true" conservatives turning their backs on the Republican Party whenever they don't get their way.

1,380 posted on 04/22/2007 12:24:06 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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