Skip to comments.Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to rule over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
If nominated, Giuliani must be defeated, if only to remind the Republican Party that the sanctity of life remains an important issue for at least part of its base. If he's nominated by the Republicans, I'll vote for the democrat.
63 posted on 02/06/2007 6:31:54 PM CST by Godwin1 *
Please do, I really can't think of any. I will gladly acknowledge them if you point them out. (And as I said, 4 or 5 FReepers voting for the consitution party doesn't count).
Let me know when you get appointed manager of the web site and given the ability to make those decisions. And since “fricken” is now accepted language on this site, mind your own fricken business.
I believe that if Rudy is our candidate, some strong conservatives will stay home, while some left-leaning independents will come to vote for Rudy.
So rudy might win, but those independents will vote democrat down-ticket, and our best conservative congressmen will be defeated. Rudy will have coattails for people who think like him, pro-abortion, gun control, gay unions, global warming, etc. That’s primarily democrats.
If we ran John Edwards, we’d beat Hillary.
Thanks for finding that.
One guy actually told me if Rudy is the nominee, he’ll write a check to Hillary and post the endorsed check on FR.
Yup. Sounds exactly like a Republican to me. /s
Like the time you insinuated that I was on drugs and gay because I dared disagree with the miers pick.
I'm gonna need a link from you to back that up.
And I'll be waiting for it tomorrow if you don't get it up tonight.
Ok, I’ll play. Please explain in your own words why we conservatives should overlook “abortion is a constitutional right,” “taxpayers should fund abortions for poor women,” “I understand the second amendment, but I’m coming for the guns anyway,” “we should respect the rights of gays,” “I believe in homosexual unions (marriage),” etc, etc, etc. Oh yeah, and please explain that sanctuary city deal for illegal aliens that Mayor Giuliani set up in NYC.
Why would we want such a liberal person to be our president?
I have more.
Yeah, but I don't think I could take the swooning from the desperate housewives.
I didn’t save that particular post, but as you can see upthread, there are already two freepers who are just fine with Hillary being president instead of Rudy.
If you think I should start saving posts from crazy freepers, I’m going to start wasting a lot of bandwidth saving them to my bookmarks. I certainly don’t mind if you don’t.
To: Ultra Sonic 007
I’d rather elect Hillary than vote for Giuliani.
35 posted on 02/11/2007 8:29:19 AM CST by Mr Ramsbotham
I was going to start saving some of those posts, but decided there were too many freepers on the Rudy threads, especially early on, that I didn’t bother. After the jeering they took for their positions, they moderated somewhat.
What are you, the Jack Chick of the new media? I reject the premise that your five semi-quotes in any way define Giuliani.
Moderating abortion? Give me a break. The man is and always will be an abortionist! You are one sick puppy if you go along with that “moderating” crap.
Mind your own freakin business.