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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

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To: philetus
Duh ya Peach, He wants to be President and he wants your vote and he will say anything you want to hear to get it.

You are just being a mean old poopoo head when you say things like that because Rudy wouldn't EVER do that! He's America's mayor, the hero of 9/11 Rudy Rudy Rudy!

1,501 posted on 04/22/2007 1:06:01 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: papasmurf

Reagan signed what at the time was the most liberal expansion of abortion in this country. We got two pro abort Supreme Court judges too.


1,502 posted on 04/22/2007 1:06:45 AM PDT by Peach
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To: calcowgirl

But it’s what they do, attack other conservatives for having policies that are like Rudy’s.

It’s like they don’t WANT anybody to support their candidate. If you even TRY to support one of his policies, they are as likely as not to attack you for it the next time you post anything they don’t like.

1,503 posted on 04/22/2007 1:07:02 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NathanR

I love that picture. Rush to the right of Arnold, Rudy to the left.

How appropriate.

1,504 posted on 04/22/2007 1:08:10 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Peach

“On social issues, Rudy is liberal. On everything else, he’s a conservative.”

That simply isn’t true. Even when we Conservatives were defending him when the media decided they had to remove him (before 9/11), we knew he was anti-conservative.

Peach you have some conservative ideas, but you are no conservative.

1,505 posted on 04/22/2007 1:08:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: philetus

I’m hoping I didn’t need a sarcasm tag for that last post, but on this thread maybe I better add one, so no one does get me confused with a real Rudy supporter.

1,506 posted on 04/22/2007 1:08:25 AM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I’m a newbie, so I’m just speculating, but I think the old-timers, some of them, were more scared of clinton than anything, and we see that even now when they will sell their soul just to beat her.

You really shouldn't post stuff like that; it shows your ignornace of what went on during the Clinton administration.

1,507 posted on 04/22/2007 1:08:38 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Well you know what? I’ll save that one. Thanks so much for finding that! I don’t know how you do it, but I’m glad you did.

1,508 posted on 04/22/2007 1:08:56 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
I'm waitin' Ms Peach.

Tell us some more how Reagan was Pro Abortion.

Tell us again how he signed "the most liberalized abortion bill in the history of the Country at that time"

Equate that to your support of that abortion encouraging so called Republican.



Run, FRED, run!

1,509 posted on 04/22/2007 1:09:15 AM PDT by papasmurf (Name me one nation that taxed itself into prosperity. Run, FRED, run!)
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To: Peach

“What did quidnick (sp?) do to get banned?”

Go back and look, post 50 I believe.

Fool forgot who he was talking to.

And got the God-Zot.

(And yes, your spelling was incorrect.)

“So you prefer Hillary, then?” -quidnunc (Since 1998-09-15)

...”Up yours asswipe.” -Jim Robinson

...”This account has been banned or suspended.”

1,510 posted on 04/22/2007 1:09:19 AM PDT by stuned_beeber (Quit...Give up...Go home...- Vote Democrat!)
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To: papasmurf

I’d respond if your post made sense. But since it doesn’t, I’ll just let it stand.

1,511 posted on 04/22/2007 1:10:37 AM PDT by Peach
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"To summarise, he's strong on terror because he employed more cops than the next 4 cities combined just to get a 20% better crime rate, he kicked Arafat out of a theater in a pique of authoritarian rage, he watched the towers fall, and he made a good speech."

I agree with your well reasoned post. Many people would have handled the aftermath of 9/11 as well or better than Rudy. It is ludicrous that the above actions translate into Rudy will fight the WOT better than any other Republican.

1,512 posted on 04/22/2007 1:10:49 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Repblican drag!)
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To: staytrue

When Romney went up a couple of points in the polls, they threw a bunch of stuff about a speech he gave in Florida that was misleading.

When Thompson came on board and started getting poll traction they started with the “he’s mormon” and “he’s a lobbyist” and “he gave money to clinton” and “he’s a DC politician”, a “career politician”, and “a globalist”.

SOmetimes they go after people with no movement, like Hunter.

1,513 posted on 04/22/2007 1:10:58 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: M. Thatcher
"I have never heard Rudy Giuliani speak to anyone the way you do on this forum."

Youtube: Rudy Giuliani Makes Fun of a Parkinson's Patient
1,514 posted on 04/22/2007 1:11:08 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: stuned_beeber

So a 9 year freeper in good standing asks Jim if he prefers Hillary to Rudy and he gets banned and you think that’s justified? Wow.

1,515 posted on 04/22/2007 1:11:30 AM PDT by Peach
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To: stuned_beeber

You forgot the part where you, who has been here less than a week, cheered because he was banned.

1,516 posted on 04/22/2007 1:11:43 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: flashbunny

Check your Freepmail.

1,518 posted on 04/22/2007 1:12:42 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Rudy Giuliani gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: stuned_beeber

And such lovely language too.

1,519 posted on 04/22/2007 1:13:25 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Verax; Peach; M. Thatcher
He supported abortion including partial birth abortion as a constitutional right during his coming out party on Hannity and Colmes just a couple months ago. It’s in the transcript. And he repeated it just a week ago and added the tidbit that since abortion is a constitutional right, poor women should be entitled to taxpayer funded abortions. He also says that many people won’t agree with him and probably should not vote for him. (He shouldn’t worry about that.) Peach’s claims of recent moderation notwithstanding, he appears to be an unabashed, unashamed, unafraid abortionist and proud of it. (of course, our conservative friend M. Thatcher never saw or heard any of that).
1,520 posted on 04/22/2007 1:13:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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