Skip to comments.Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to rule over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Did rudy change from pro-choice to pro-life? I missed the memo. Last I saw he was saying he supported federal funding for abortion for poor women, and was telling NARAL how great they were.
You said that Bloomberg was a better money manager than Rudy. Well, yes, if you think taking taxpayer’s money and managing it instead of letting us keep our money makes one a better manager.
When Reagan changed from a Democrat to a Republican and pro choice to pro life, he was embraced.
Im asking you to put up or shut up, please give me the quotes and his political statements that support your constant slurs.
You said: Its most interesting to me that there are freepers who have said they will vote for Hillary before they vote for Rudy.
I, being open to knowledge, asked you to point me to a single freeper that said they would vote for Hillary.
And your response is but there's a freeper who pinged you that they would rather have Hillary as president. Post #1247. They said they'd rather have Hillary as president, although they wouldn't vote for her.
You did however say you had your contacts out, so maybe that is the problem.
You said elsewhere that you didn't keep a list and wouldn't look it up. Stick with that answer, it's better than this one.
Ok, you’re about one or two posts away from a zotting. You continue to attack Ronald Reagan in your zeal to build up the abortionist Rudy Giuliani. Is it because you actually believe that Ronald Reagan was an abortionist or do you recognize that Rudy Giuliani is and you are ok with that and need some cover? Are you ok with abortion? Do you believe in a woman’s right to choose? Do you agree with your liberal hero that abortion is a constitutional right? Will you take the next step and approve of taxpayer funded abortions as a constitutional entitlement for poor women?
I suspect hyperbole on his part. Also, he didn't say he'd vote for Hillary, he said he'd vote for the "democrat", who might be Obama. Maybe once he realised the "democrat" was hillary he'd change his mind.
But I thank you for at least providing one. The way Peach talked I thought she had in her mind a list of treasonous liberal freepers ready to vote for Hillary.
You seem to remember a lot about this, except you don’t know “the guys” freeper name. Since the other poster didn’t actually find someone who said they’d vote for Hillary, the request still stands.
Post to reply to a post that mentions you. In Feb 2007 you claimed you’d “vote democrat” rather than Rudy.
But once again, it does not say he would VOTE for hillary, just that he'd rather "elect Hillary". This was in a post that suggested if we stayed home we'd be "electing hillary", so he could well have meant just that he would not vote for Rudy, even if it meant Hillary would win.
I've pinged him in in case he'd like to expound further.
Not a lot of these guys around.....
Thanks for the ping.
New Yorkers rate Bloomberg better than Rudy, and said they’d rather have Bloomberg as president.
“Elect hilary” is not the same as “vote for Hillary”. Since the poster said “vote for Giuliani”, I presume he would have said “vote for Hillary” if that’s what he meant.
We all know there are freepers who won’t vote for Rudy, even if it means Hillary will be elected.
I just asked for the freepers who actually said they would VOTE for Hillary.
I’m still waiting for that, although the “vote for the democrat” could be implied to mean “hillary” if you think hillary is inevitable, which I do not.
But once again, the poster did NOT say he’d VOTE for Hillary. He said he’d give her money, but NOT that he’d VOTE for her.
C’mon Jim. It’s very early in the A.M. People are tired - yet have passion in their convictions. Peach is one of the best around here. Let’s take a step back and breathe.
But was it dumber than my other post? Because I’m upset that mkjessup beat me out so quick and I’d like to get my award back. :-)
Oh my gosh. I actually logged back onto the computer to check something else and saw this post.
So now it’s attacking Ronald Reagan to post his record? Anyone who knows me for these last 9 years has seen me post about my opposition to abortion. You draw whatever conclusions from that you need to draw.
ROFL!!! I was thinking the same thing.
Note though he didn’t say he’d VOTE for Hillary, just that he’d give her money. You could speculate he’d vote for her, but it’s easier to send money than to actually pull the lever.
Maybe just one more post?