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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: RunningWolf

Now THAT is REALLLLLLY something!!!!

Put a tribute up on your homepage...for the world to see!


16,851 posted on 04/30/2007 7:08:17 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: azhenfud
You're 'Zappy'! Alrighty then :)

I'm 'Legendary'!? !?

16,852 posted on 04/30/2007 7:08:33 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: BykrBayb

That’s funny. The enthusiasm is contagious!


16,853 posted on 04/30/2007 7:10:17 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

You do NOT lift the links from the Canteen thread. That is a big bad no-no.

Noooooo nooooooooooo noooooooooo!!!!

Sorry.
BUT, you can link the post!!!

OR BETTER YET, let’s ALL leave this thread and go TO the Canteen.

Anyone game?


16,854 posted on 04/30/2007 7:10:41 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; GoldwaterChick; XJarhead

Note Date / Time:

Yeehaw!! Over the top!! Thank you TEXAS!!

Thank you all very much!!

1,983 posted on 04/21/2007 7:14:51 PM EDT by Jim Robinson

Then:

Do you really expect me to do that?

1 posted on 04/21/2007 9:42:27 PM EDT by Jim Robinson

Frankly, I never expected that you would collect money for three weeks and then, within a couple of hours, conduct a Soviet-style purge of Freepers. The timing of this is very suspicious and suggests a premeditated strategery.

Had I known that such a purge would be conducted — particularly a purge characterized by viciousness, cruelty and a pack of hyenas tearing into long-time Freepers, I would never had renewed my monthly donation. The most offensive part of this horrible thread has been the savage behavior towards many female Freepers by some of the male Brownshirts. Please cancel my monthly donation effective immediately. I cannot in good conscience support a site that tolerates abusive behavior towards women.

All you had to do was ask all Rudy supporters to leave, Jim. You didn’t need to drag this formerly great forum and your own reputation through the mud. I for one would have left with no hard feelings.

I’m not changing this tagline and I hope that one day in the future this will once again be a “family conservative “ friendly site. If not, it’s been a wonderful five years Freeping and two additional years lurking before that. I have no illusions that control of this forum rests with anyone but you. I’ll respect whatever decision you make regarding termination of any Freeper’s account.

Thank you for your work in founding this site. You provided a wonderful home for all of us locked out of the political discourse of this nation because we did not go along with the singleminded view of the MSM. You are so much better than this thread, Jim. It is very sad to see what anger and frustration has done to this forum.

To all of those who invoke the name of Ronald Reagan on this thread, all I can say is that the comments on this thread — on all sides — would sicken him. Ronald Reagan was LOVED by this country — not for his conservatism or any other political quality, but because he was above all else a kind and gentle soul who never hated anybody — even his political enemies. Far be it from me to claim that I will ever live up to his example of grace, kindness, compassion, and humility — but I hope that readers of this will think carefully about the Greatness of Reagan and how it was his very human soul that made him so successful as an actor, a politician, a President, a husband, a man, and an American. He was the last person who would ever claim perfection — he was too reverent and God-fearing a man to believe that.


16,855 posted on 04/30/2007 7:10:59 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: jedward

I had to get my eyes dilated at the eye doctor’s and my computer screen is very, very bright


16,856 posted on 04/30/2007 7:11:29 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: presently no screen name

nice meeting you, too. your name makes it hard to come up with a shorter version. ::grin:: have a blessed week!


16,857 posted on 04/30/2007 7:11:40 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

Light reading for a late night, or two, or three, or .....


16,858 posted on 04/30/2007 7:11:54 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I’m game. And there’s no talking politics rule too isn’t there?


16,859 posted on 04/30/2007 7:12:02 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Maybe. But I think it’s more like I hurt their little ears. I’m no Kate Smith.


16,860 posted on 04/30/2007 7:12:20 PM PDT by BykrBayb (On to victory! ř)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

I’m 600 posts behind and not sure anybody’s referenced this from earlier today yet, but...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1826162/posts

You want positive? Check THAT article out. If Fred Thompson gets in the race and keeps talking like that, FRiends, he is going to tap that wellspring of anger and determination that’s been building in the conservative base for years, and then, watch out, because it will be ON.

That is major-league good stuff right there.

}:-)4


16,861 posted on 04/30/2007 7:12:31 PM PDT by Moose4 ("(Rudy's) the exact same animal as Hillary only he wears a dress." --Jim Robinson)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Sunglasses at night! There’s a song for the canteen :)


16,862 posted on 04/30/2007 7:12:58 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
You're a Grand Old Flag
George M. Cohan

You're a grand old flag,
You're a high flying flag
And forever in peace may you wave.
You're the emblem of
The land I love.
The home of the free and the brave.

Ev'ry heart beats true
'neath the Red, White and Blue,
Where there's never a boast or brag.
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
Keep your eye on the grand old flag.

16,864 posted on 04/30/2007 7:13:21 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: jedward

Correct. No politics.


16,865 posted on 04/30/2007 7:14:15 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: T'wit

I love that song.

I love this song, too:

If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.

I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘ Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.

And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

From the lakes of Minnesota,
to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Texas,
From sea to shining sea.

From Detroit down to Houston,
and New York to L.A.
Well there’s pride in every American heart,
and its time we stand and say.

That I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

And I’m proud to be and American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘ Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.


16,866 posted on 04/30/2007 7:14:48 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: jedward; SevenofNine
"Sunglasses at night! There’s a song for the canteen :)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXw4qqQqTrY

16,867 posted on 04/30/2007 7:16:37 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: RunningWolf

I love it - so much that I copied it! I should have asked first but I didn’t want to wait for an answer. :) So thanks!
Nice bikes, also. I left them there.


16,868 posted on 04/30/2007 7:16:43 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: You Dirty Rats

Did you get as far as the last few hundred comments?


16,869 posted on 04/30/2007 7:16:48 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; jedward; All
To lock the thread, to discontinue and move on, get thee hence to this thread!
16,870 posted on 04/30/2007 7:17:05 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: Dead Corpse

I saw the closeout of the Undead thread....watching the very end...


16,871 posted on 04/30/2007 7:17:27 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Sounds good to me.


16,872 posted on 04/30/2007 7:17:35 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: T'wit

Hey, T’wit. Long time no see.


16,873 posted on 04/30/2007 7:17:53 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

There’s always somebody late to the party. No more opera are being accepted lol.

All your opus are belong to us.


16,874 posted on 04/30/2007 7:18:04 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Jesus Lamb of God...Have Mercy On us")
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To: Dead Corpse

16,875 posted on 04/30/2007 7:18:27 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: BykrBayb

You rang?

What I wish for this thread:

Pinging
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts?q=1&;page=16841#16834

[64.236.1x.xx] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.


16,876 posted on 04/30/2007 7:18:43 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: rbmillerjr

It’s goin’ out with a whimper.

That’s a good thing.


16,877 posted on 04/30/2007 7:19:15 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Reagan Man
Here's one graphic we might use to end the thread, what say you RM?
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
Working tonight, so just lurking off and on, have a good week all!
16,878 posted on 04/30/2007 7:19:23 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Brad's Gramma
What Knitting A Conundrum Means
K is for Keen

N is for Normal

I is for Innocent

T is for Tempting

T is for Timeless

I is for Irresistible

N is for Neat

G is for Glitzy

A is for Amazing

C is for Comical

O is for Outrageous

N is for Nice

U is for Unreal

N is for Nervy

D is for Deadly

R is for Responsible

U is for Unnatural

M is for Moral
What Does Your Name Mean?

16,879 posted on 04/30/2007 7:19:41 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: You Dirty Rats
Your FReep-page says it all.

Hope you alight somewhere where you can find contentment.

BTW, Reagan was a much better and more determined political infighter than you remember him to be. He was not all charm, sweetness, and light. He knew when to fight, and when he fought, he fought hard--and for keeps.

16,880 posted on 04/30/2007 7:19:53 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Brad's Gramma

Maybe. I visited it a few times and could never quite figure out how it worked, so I quit going.


16,881 posted on 04/30/2007 7:19:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

“Zappy”... how about that?! I didn’t know I was until then...LOL!


16,882 posted on 04/30/2007 7:20:26 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

Hey! Same here!! Free Fierce Allegiance! One of the good guys!


16,883 posted on 04/30/2007 7:20:36 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: rbmillerjr

Hey, what happened to 16,863?

I didn’t see anything that bad but maybe I missed it.


16,884 posted on 04/30/2007 7:22:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mkjessup; flashbunny

The look on Giuliani’s face fits that poster perfectly!


16,885 posted on 04/30/2007 7:23:05 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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I have been following this thread since it began.

Rather than a credit to FR, this thread soon will be seen as an embarrassment. Because of the bad behavior -- a case study in mob rule -- I think it will be expeditious to delete the entire thread when its perceived goals are met. While it may be deleted from FR, I'm sure it has been archived widely across the web.

Certainly no serious political candidate will be able to associate with a website proffering a thread of this type as its crowning glory.

Rather, this thread will contribute to a series of MA and Ph.D. theses in a variety of fields, including abnormal psychology, sociology, and anthropology.

In particular, it will be an excellent case study in mob rule, as well as what has become known as the "Lucifer Effect." Theses may also explore the Stockholm Syndrome, studying the effects on those who remain.

The particular subject matter of the thread won't be of much interest -- what will be of interest is the behavior of various members and shifting groups and sub-groups.

The most vociferous of the hi-fivers may now consider themselves famous, but their lasting contributions may be merely footnotes in Ph.D. theses.

16,886 posted on 04/30/2007 7:24:20 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

LMAO. Oh you were serious.

Carry on.


16,887 posted on 04/30/2007 7:25:17 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: metmom

“Hey, what happened to 16,863?

I missed that one.


16,888 posted on 04/30/2007 7:26:14 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Jesus Lamb of God...Have Mercy On us")
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To: MountainFlower
I usually don't log in to the Canteen. Audio doesn't work so well on my system and I have to prioritize my time.
What Mountain Flower Means
M is for Magnificent

O is for Orderly

U is for Useful

N is for Natural

T is for Truly a Great Freeper

A is for Athletic

I is for Impassioned

N is for Neat

F is for Free Republic, of course

L is for Lively

O is for Orderly

W is for Wonderful Freeper

E is for Exuberant

R is for Republican
What Does Your Name Mean?

16,889 posted on 04/30/2007 7:26:37 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Reagan Man; dirtboy; Spiff; pissant; Liz; TommyDale
I've got lots to catch up on that's for sure, but from the tid bits I've seen--I love it.

Thanks always RM for keeping up the good fight for conservatism while I was away.

/tipping my hat to you guys and gals

16,890 posted on 04/30/2007 7:27:14 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: mkjessup

Fits perfect. Thanks mkjessup.


16,891 posted on 04/30/2007 7:27:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: upsdriver
Hey! Same here!! Free Fierce Allegiance! One of the good guys!

BUMP!

16,892 posted on 04/30/2007 7:28:29 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Coyoteman

From Coyote’s website:

I am taking a hiatus from posting on FR. You may contact me via DarwinCentral.org

lmao, yeah you’ve been watching and commenting plenty, just not on this site lol.

You’re not trying to promote your site are you?


16,893 posted on 04/30/2007 7:29:18 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Jesus Lamb of God...Have Mercy On us")
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To: Coyoteman; Jim Robinson

Someone was showing me responses to this thread on several of the antifreeper sites a while ago.

Funny, but a couple of the posts read exactly like your post, practically word for word.

FR will be fine.


16,894 posted on 04/30/2007 7:29:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: MotleyGirl70

A had no clue this thread was still going on.


16,895 posted on 04/30/2007 7:29:34 PM PDT by pissant
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To: MotleyGirl70

It was a conservative team effort. Credit to all.

Thanks to Jim for the spring cleaning effort too.


16,896 posted on 04/30/2007 7:29:46 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Coyoteman

Same could be said of DC.


16,897 posted on 04/30/2007 7:30:30 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Ya just go and start yakking.

or not.

:)


16,898 posted on 04/30/2007 7:30:32 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (See HiJinx's tag line....then DO it!!!!)
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To: Coyoteman

I nominate you for the Darwin award.


16,899 posted on 04/30/2007 7:30:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: rbmillerjr

Correction: From Coyote’s homepage.


16,900 posted on 04/30/2007 7:30:53 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Jesus Lamb of God...Have Mercy On us")
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