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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Enosh

Amen! Jim has got the pitchfork and is cleaning out the stables.


261 posted on 04/21/2007 7:47:54 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I’m the sorriest thing you’ve ever seen. Just ask anyone who’s seen me.


262 posted on 04/21/2007 7:48:05 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (I finally see the dawn arrivin' I see beyond the road I'm drivin' Far away and left behind)
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To: conservative in nyc
Would you rather go 1 for 2 or 0 for 2 on Supreme Court nominees?

That's the real question isn't it? I asked earlier on this thread so far without an answer: What makes anyone believe Rudy will even go for even one conservative for SCOTUS?

As for myself, I don't think he would go for any conservatives based upon his positions on abortion, gun control, gay marriage, etc. Those positions do not mesh with an "original constuctionist" interpretation of our Constitution.

263 posted on 04/21/2007 7:48:12 PM PDT by beancounter13
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To: beancounter13

Too true.

Too likely.

But I pray not.


264 posted on 04/21/2007 7:48:15 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Jim Robinson

No, I don’t and hope you never will..may God grant you and your family strength and courage. Forever a FreeRepublic.


265 posted on 04/21/2007 7:48:39 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and FRiends. ...Hunter '08.)
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To: tsowellfan
Worse, A surprising number of politcal junkies now cannot name the two republicans in the house and senate.

I am sorry but I must admit that I ended up googling it. McConnell was on the tip of my tongue and it wouldn't come to me. I heard of Boehner before but it would have never come to me.

You are right. Good post.

266 posted on 04/21/2007 7:48:39 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: rottndog

Look again. She’s not here.


267 posted on 04/21/2007 7:48:51 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: quidnunc
For conservatives I guess the choice is between getting 75%-80% of what we want or getting nothing.

I prefer "nothing".

268 posted on 04/21/2007 7:49:16 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Enosh

“No More Spam!”

That would pretty much knock out half of the Rudy detactors....plus at least Mia had cool graphics.


269 posted on 04/21/2007 7:49:20 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish
"discuss this with"

To me it looks like all you are doing is hoping Rudy will change from what he has been, a liberal. Heck, I know you have seen the info spiff,narses, flashbunny and others have posted.
Rudy's own words on abortion (taxpayer supported? Yeah, right)
Banning of guns.
Judge picks? Not when he thinks Ginsberg is an honest one.
Border issues? Made New York a sanctuary city for illegals. And so on. (do I really need to mention the homosexual agenda?) Only one issue, the WOT, he would be good on. The rest, he would work with the dims, to destroy this country. Not intentionally. Just with good intentions.

270 posted on 04/21/2007 7:49:29 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Jim Robinson

No...


271 posted on 04/21/2007 7:49:42 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: quidnunc

I do not agree with your assessment that the other candidates are certain losers. But at what point do we pick a liberal just so we can come out victorious? If we pick Rudy, then the Republicans will have picked a winning candidate, but it will be the liberals’ candidate that wins.


272 posted on 04/21/2007 7:49:59 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones are a mass murderer's first choice.)
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To: Jim Robinson
>>>>>Do you really expect me to do that?

NEVER!!!

One fine post Jim. Thank you.

273 posted on 04/21/2007 7:50:17 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: beancounter13
Doesn't sound so bad to me. I lived through eight years of that hell before. If that is my choice, then I go third party. I will have plenty of time to decide which one. Personally, I think this country just may have to burn before it gets better: the last American citizens who truly understood the meaning of sacrifice are rapidly departing from this world.

I agree.

274 posted on 04/21/2007 7:50:19 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: veronica
“I am one of the conservatives here...and Rudy is far from a socialist. I think it’s hyperbole to call him one.”

What would you call someone that thinks ILLEGALS have a Constitutional RIGHT to WELFARE?

If not socialist what warped classification do we put that under? Communist perhaps?

275 posted on 04/21/2007 7:50:21 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump.


276 posted on 04/21/2007 7:50:37 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: dynachrome

placer


277 posted on 04/21/2007 7:50:37 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Too blessed to be stressed.)
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To: Strategerist; Jim Robinson

As active and large as the board is it’s still a micropscopic (and unrepresentative) portion of even just the Republican Party, much less the electorate as a whole.
= = =

Too true.

But more related to our level of motivation in various situations than to our numbers.

We seem to influence quite out of proportion to our numbers

WHEN

we feel it’s crucial.

Trouble is, we only seem to feel that way when it’s the 11th hour and 59th minute . . . and this election . . . that coiuld well be far too late.


278 posted on 04/21/2007 7:51:34 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: veronica

Your seeming willingness to attempt to equate these things to conservatism is just another example of creeping socialism into our society.

No, because GWB supports some form of amnesty for illegal aliens does not make it conservative. And no, Dick Cheney’s undying love for his child does not make the gay agenda conservative. If you think it does, you’ve gone over the edge.

Crime going down and lower taxes in NYC are great, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, gun control, asset forfeiture, illegal alien sanctuaries, liberalism, socialism, etc, etc, etc.


279 posted on 04/21/2007 7:51:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I totally agree conservatism is in dire trouble at the moment and you might know I blame the republican party most of all. Hell, they don't believe in, or fight for, conservative principles enough to lead a stop Rudy movement. They barely can lead a stop Hilary movement. They're loaded with RINOS that destroyed what the republican Congress might have accomplished. George Bush himself kicked the conservative base to the curb with this illegal alien nonsense.

If Rudy is nominated I still wouldn't want a democrat president. I think our greatest weakness is the lack of a true conservative majority in Congress. They would block a republican president's liberal indiscretions, just as they blocked Bush on illegals.

280 posted on 04/21/2007 7:51:43 PM PDT by Williams
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