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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Note new tagline.........it doesn't fit. :)

G'nite Knitting! God bless you!

4,341 posted on 04/22/2007 10:47:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan (I will do whatever I can to campaign for a conservative in the primary season with every fiber of my)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
We're all conservatives here. Keep in mind that not all conservatives are the same. There isn't a blue print for the American conservative. Nor is there a one-sized fit all template. Heck, there are those who are atheist and agnostic who post here. Conservatives aren't religious fanatics, nor are they theocratic, conservatism does however share and oftentimes agrees with the social and moral values found within religious texts.

I think you make some good points in your post. The other side of the coin is that Rudy Giuliani has taken some extremist liberal stands over the years. His support for taxpayer-funded abortion is an extremist position. His support for partial-birth abortion is an extremist position. On the abortion issue, I don't even call myself pro-Life half the time because I've had such strong disagreements with people on some of the details. However, I don't hold those kinds of extremist pro-abortion positions. The same is true of gun control. I've heard Rudy Giuliani say on national TV that he doesn't believe in private ownership of handguns. That's an extremist liberal position.

I would love to see Republicans rally around a good candidate. My personal favorite at this time is Duncan Hunter, but I can be fairly happy with most of the candidates frequently mentioned. I have some serious concerns about Mitt Romney, but I also like him. I'm on his ping list and may switch to his side if Mr. Hunter drops out or if I see him as the only chance to beat Mr. Giuliani. I've had some differences with Fred Thompson, but I'll vote for him if he's nominated. I think we can find some good candidates among those already running or possibly still find someone else out there. I don't understand why the Giuliani supporters are so intent on pushing someone who is so wrong for the country and the party.

Bill

4,342 posted on 04/22/2007 10:48:38 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: ohioWfan

Niters to you! Rest well!


4,343 posted on 04/22/2007 10:48:39 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

There’s a Rally for Fred in Cookeville, TN this Saturday, April 28.

It’s arranged by his supporters at DraftFredThompson.com


4,344 posted on 04/22/2007 10:49:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I think I will.....................now. :)


4,345 posted on 04/22/2007 10:49:19 PM PDT by ohioWfan (I will do whatever I can to campaign for a conservative in the primary season with every fiber of my)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Would you shake someone’s hand after they punched you in the face?
***Yes, but not if they stabbed me in the back.


4,346 posted on 04/22/2007 10:50:01 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

If Rudy (what ever his personal beliefs are) can prove his sincerity in stating that he would put the liks of Scalia and Alito on the Supreme Court, thn you would have to move McCain to this status instead of Rudy.


4,347 posted on 04/22/2007 10:50:14 PM PDT by scannell
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To: Dog Gone

Who exactly is the official announced candidate that all FR members must support at the risk of being zapped? I missed the memo, and I thought I was on the distribution list.
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Me too... Please forward it to me when you get it, DG.


4,348 posted on 04/22/2007 10:50:39 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: rbmillerjr
Sounds like union leftist politics to me.

Could be, but I doubt it, seems to be from a lot of backing candidates who are not fairing well in the polls.

It's certainly doing damage to this forum. A lot of folks have been turned off by some of these threads, or wilted into lurk mode, or simply just left altogether. I guess to a few, that's what's called "building the conservative movement", by turning it into a permanent minority, irrelevant coalition.

4,349 posted on 04/22/2007 10:50:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Iwo Jima

I shudder to find out... you and I think alike.


4,350 posted on 04/22/2007 10:51:12 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world. Have mercy on us, and grant us Your peace.)
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To: Hildy
I actually think you guys enjoy being losers.

People who support Rudy are cheering for the guy on the team that is running for the goal line with no football in his hands. Rudy might manage to get across the goal line, but the team isn't going to win.

4,351 posted on 04/22/2007 10:51:15 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Chuck Dent

Arnie didn’t have a long record in elected office to defend. If Giuliani gets the nomination, the MSM is going to start splashing the authoritarian parts of Giuliani’s record coast to coast (e.g., tens of thousands of people arrested for misdemeanors being somewhat publicly strip-searched, seizing property from those acquitted of a crime, etc., etc.)

Why hasn’t the NY Times run front-page exposes titled “Republican Front-Runner Proposed DNA Collection from All Newborns?” Do you think they’re just being fair and trying not to influence the process? Or do you think they hope he wins the nomination and are keeping their powder dry?


4,352 posted on 04/22/2007 10:51:47 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: NapkinUser

Who would Rudy select as a VP running mate...Dame Edna?


4,353 posted on 04/22/2007 10:52:08 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: Elyse; All

Jim’s trying to kill us all, you know. :)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1821883/posts?page=1


4,354 posted on 04/22/2007 10:52:21 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: B4Ranch; stephenjohnbanker

WHY did I check this thread One More Time tonight?

*sigh*

Now I have to go to sleep thinking of that....


4,355 posted on 04/22/2007 10:52:27 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: B4Ranch

Touche : )


4,356 posted on 04/22/2007 10:52:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Kevmo
Yes, but not if they stabbed me in the back.

I'm talking FReeper's. Not cheating spouses or political candidates.

4,357 posted on 04/22/2007 10:52:57 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Kevmo
First off, thank you for the rationale reply. For some reason no one wants to discuss the 'inside baseball' aspects - it's all emotion and reaction.

The whole uproar about Rudy is nothing more than a game of chicken: are there more than enough centrist Democrats to offset lost SoCon voters?

People & organizations with a lot more at stake than participating in an interesting discussion have already signaled their moves.

If it weren't for the front loaded primaries occurring in Feb, the traditional grass roots approach of vetting nominees would probably still be valid.

However, political realities indicate that the big Blue states will be determining the GOP nominee in a single day. Given this scenario, it's not hard to anticipate that Rudy will simply replicate Arnie's appeal by taking it nationwide.

4,358 posted on 04/22/2007 10:53:16 PM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: politicalwit

Maybe Bill Lockyer. He is his CA spokesperson.

Guess it doesn’t matter that he is a wacko leftist gun grabber.


4,359 posted on 04/22/2007 10:53:24 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: B4Ranch

LOL!


4,360 posted on 04/22/2007 10:54:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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