Skip to comments.Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to rule over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
And when Hitlery, the neo-commies in congress and a liberal SCOTUS stamp out the last line of the Constitution will you say, "At least I tried" or "Good thing we didn't elect another RINO"
Speaking of laughing...I’m sure Mrs. Bill Clinton is splitting the seams of her pantsuit tonight.
Fred Dalton Thompson has everything under control.
He wanted to let Rudy McRomney have a free run for awhile so that when he stepped in we'd appreciate him more.
Irrelevant. My pre 2000 views on GWB have nothing whatsoever to do with the very real fact that Rudy Giuliani is an abortionist, gay rights supporting, gun grabbing, illegal alien supporting liberal and is therefore unquestioningly unfit to be the nominee for president from the Republican party.
Sorry, that happens not to be the case.
The post pointed out a number of historical facts which are not necessarily widely known today.
That is scary.
There are many that can fight the war on terror, many with much more experience than Rudy
and without the downside of giving up many of our freedoms.
I like the ones stating the canard that it's an "objective fact" that only he can beat Hillary. A scare tactic revealing pure desperation.
The squeegee men have completed re-education and are now clinic escorts for Planned (non)Parenthood.
Peach and several other FReepers have made a habit of trashing Reagan over the years. Denouning Reagan`s legacy to promote Rudy`s candidacy has been part of their recent gameplan.
“He cut taxes like crazy in NY...”
Actually, I believe he reduced the rate of growth of taxes. Both parties claim that and reductions in growth of spending as “cuts”. That is one of the lies that politicians tell that is killing this country.
*That* is funny.
It’s wonderful news that Free Republic still maintains the stance supporting a true Republic of free men. I salute you, sir.
No, I’m too fascinated watching the meltdown.
“Yes, I would vote for Attila the Hun, if he was a strong leader and would fight the IslamoThugs with all his might.”
But remember, the people who don’t like rudy are just “one issue” voters. LOL.
Truly brilliant commentary... Sounds like you have a lot on conviction and not much brains or class.
Read your dopey response to my first post.
You started the ad hominum attack . I responded in kind. Why should I waste any further time with a dope like you?
A lot of us remember more than a few years ago, and I’m glad you remember that too. It seems when we mention the truth about some things around here, especially surrounding Reagan, the hysterics have instant amnesia.
**Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?**
I certainly hope not.
“My pre 2000 views on GWB have nothing whatsoever to do with the very real fact that Rudy Giuliani is an abortionist, gay rights supporting, gun grabbing, illegal alien supporting liberal and is therefore unquestioningly unfit to be the nominee for president from the Republican party.”
The fact is that Rudy is a left wing liberal, and morally bankrupt. His lifelong record proves this. But it looks like you will have to keep reposting what Rudy is until he goes under. No rest for the weary.
If they were around today they would all be FReepers, likely would ask Jim to lead them, and they would be moderators because they would want to get the Rootybot’s minds right.
I can see I’m not the only one. Good.
She is only the “other” choice for the Democrats. She is not even going to be in the Republican primary.
So pardon me, where does your statement come from?
“see the link”
Heh, knew you would have it handy. Might even credit this whole brouhaha tonite to you and the others who ferreted out the real rudy record!
Waaaay too many people around here are just wishing we had historical amnesia, and thanks for pointing out that what is considered trashing on this thread isn’t trashing at all.
The core conservative goals of this site will remain the same, most likely. The debate over how to accomplish them will rage on in a different context.
I remember Bob Dornan on “Tempo” screaming at the liberals calling in saying how much they hated “Reegan.” That was 1968. Reagan was no liberal. He ran as a Goldwater conservative against Pat Brown.
He was a man of the right from his days on “Death Valley Days.” You Giulianites always dream about your flawed little liberal as another Reagan. But you have your polarity reversed. You see Reagan as a liberal, and Giuliani as a conservative.
If anything, Reagan moved toward the middle during his presidency. He already had the right flank covered, and we trusted him. He was no liberal, not after 1964.
Last time we had a Clinton in the white house with a democrat house and senate, two years with almost nothing happened and then we had republicans in control of the house and senate.
I think 2010 is much more likely to be a republican landslide if Hillary is president than if Rudy is president.
Spoken by the man who denounces every Republican we have. Sure, you have credibility. /s
The guy was trashing the founding fathers and religion thinking it would elevate the immoral abortionist gay agenda supporting liberal Rudy Giuliani. He was arguing exactly like a liberal. I’ve seen them do it over and over again. Trash the founders. Deny their religious backgrounds. Deny that America was founded and settled by Godly men on religious grounds. They want God completely out of the picture. Why?
“Cuss word” NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knock it off.
Only until management decides they want to please the whiners.
The way I see it, Jim's simply making conservatives feel welcome again. I was getting pretty tired of a certain group of 'pragmatists', longtime members who apparently thought they owned the place, who spent most of their time pinging each other to certain threads & sneering at social conservatives.
From what I can tell, alot of them are no longer here, and in my humble opinion thats an improvement.
“want” or “have”
It certainly was a group effort. And it was great to see a bunch of conservatives working together to help keep yoko giuliani from breaking up the GOP.
Our next task is to get it out to conservative republicans in the outside world.
Woo hoo! Well stated, Mr. Robinson! Thank you for your vision for Free Republic and for your courage to fight the good fight for the unborn, and against the evil men and women that are taking over America! Our forefathers fought against the tyrants, and it looks like we’re going to have to do it too. I’m proud to be on your side! I will NEVER vote for Rudy, or any other liberal/RINO!
THAT’S for sure . Might as well vote for the witch !
Not NO but HELL NO...
It's not surprising that a person who would support Rudy and claim he is conservative would also POST a comment asking if rudy supporters would be allowed to POST.
It's like asking someone to raise their hand if they can't hear you.