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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: semaj
Tolerance of evil is still evil, even if it's only evil 50% of the time.

And when Hitlery, the neo-commies in congress and a liberal SCOTUS stamp out the last line of the Constitution will you say, "At least I tried" or "Good thing we didn't elect another RINO"

451 posted on 04/21/2007 8:35:32 PM PDT by infidel29 (...but sir, if my child had a fever I wouldn't go to a bureaucrat for the diagnosis.)
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To: veronica

Speaking of laughing...I’m sure Mrs. Bill Clinton is splitting the seams of her pantsuit tonight.


452 posted on 04/21/2007 8:35:42 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Jim Robinson
No. I like all our guys. I kindaof even like McCaine. . Today he even told moveon.org to “get a life” regarding his bomb Iran ditty. For once a Repub didn’t apologize. I like it when are guys quit taking it from the moonbats and shove it back in their faces.
453 posted on 04/21/2007 8:35:54 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Reagan Man
I think you're a troll. I'll be watching you. Waaaaatching you.
454 posted on 04/21/2007 8:35:55 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Jim Robinson
Don't worry, JimRob!

Fred Dalton Thompson has everything under control.

He wanted to let Rudy McRomney have a free run for awhile so that when he stepped in we'd appreciate him more.

455 posted on 04/21/2007 8:36:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Peach

Irrelevant. My pre 2000 views on GWB have nothing whatsoever to do with the very real fact that Rudy Giuliani is an abortionist, gay rights supporting, gun grabbing, illegal alien supporting liberal and is therefore unquestioningly unfit to be the nominee for president from the Republican party.


456 posted on 04/21/2007 8:36:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: rbmillerjr

: )


457 posted on 04/21/2007 8:36:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Jim Robinson
We had one guy trashing the founding fathers today...

Sorry, that happens not to be the case.

The post pointed out a number of historical facts which are not necessarily widely known today.

458 posted on 04/21/2007 8:36:48 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: KATIE-O
Yes, I would vote for Attila the Hun, if he was a strong leader and would fight the IslamoThugs with all his might.

That is scary.
There are many that can fight the war on terror, many with much more experience than Rudy
and without the downside of giving up many of our freedoms.

459 posted on 04/21/2007 8:36:58 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
If Americans are expected to stand behind a president they did not vote for (in theory at least), then why shouldn't we stand behind a nominee that not all of us supported.

well said

460 posted on 04/21/2007 8:37:04 PM PDT by Uncledave
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To: rockrr
My favorite Rudy posts are the “we are the Borg” ones.

I like the ones stating the canard that it's an "objective fact" that only he can beat Hillary. A scare tactic revealing pure desperation.

461 posted on 04/21/2007 8:37:18 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: flashbunny

The squeegee men have completed re-education and are now clinic escorts for Planned (non)Parenthood.


462 posted on 04/21/2007 8:37:20 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: Jim Robinson; Peach
>>>>>Trashing Reagan to support Giulianni? Sheesh. She’d better not be doing that on a thread I’m involved on. My blood pressure might push all the way through the zot button.

Peach and several other FReepers have made a habit of trashing Reagan over the years. Denouning Reagan`s legacy to promote Rudy`s candidacy has been part of their recent gameplan.

463 posted on 04/21/2007 8:37:42 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Blackirish

“He cut taxes like crazy in NY...”
Actually, I believe he reduced the rate of growth of taxes. Both parties claim that and reductions in growth of spending as “cuts”. That is one of the lies that politicians tell that is killing this country.


464 posted on 04/21/2007 8:37:44 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: flashbunny

*That* is funny.


465 posted on 04/21/2007 8:37:46 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Petronski

466 posted on 04/21/2007 8:38:19 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Thank you.

It’s wonderful news that Free Republic still maintains the stance supporting a true Republic of free men. I salute you, sir.


467 posted on 04/21/2007 8:38:40 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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To: skeeter

No, I’m too fascinated watching the meltdown.


468 posted on 04/21/2007 8:38:52 PM PDT by Peach
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To: calcowgirl

“Yes, I would vote for Attila the Hun, if he was a strong leader and would fight the IslamoThugs with all his might.”

But remember, the people who don’t like rudy are just “one issue” voters. LOL.


469 posted on 04/21/2007 8:38:55 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: nctexan
"The comment stands. Up yours."

Truly brilliant commentary... Sounds like you have a lot on conviction and not much brains or class.

Read your dopey response to my first post.

You started the ad hominum attack . I responded in kind. Why should I waste any further time with a dope like you?

470 posted on 04/21/2007 8:39:13 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Arizona Carolyn

A lot of us remember more than a few years ago, and I’m glad you remember that too. It seems when we mention the truth about some things around here, especially surrounding Reagan, the hysterics have instant amnesia.


471 posted on 04/21/2007 8:40:30 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Jim Robinson

**Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?**

I certainly hope not.


472 posted on 04/21/2007 8:40:39 PM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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To: Jim Robinson; All

“My pre 2000 views on GWB have nothing whatsoever to do with the very real fact that Rudy Giuliani is an abortionist, gay rights supporting, gun grabbing, illegal alien supporting liberal and is therefore unquestioningly unfit to be the nominee for president from the Republican party.”

The fact is that Rudy is a left wing liberal, and morally bankrupt. His lifelong record proves this. But it looks like you will have to keep reposting what Rudy is until he goes under. No rest for the weary.


473 posted on 04/21/2007 8:41:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: veronica
"No way. NO WAY would Tom McClintock have beaten Bustamante. I know CA voters."

Sure as heck could have, and would have, if he hadn't been backstabbed by the the Bush Admin.

:O)

P
Run, FRED, run!

474 posted on 04/21/2007 8:41:11 PM PDT by papasmurf (Name me one nation that taxed itself into prosperity. Run, FRED, run!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
There are alot of New Yorkers who FReep here and think Rudy is God!

Why, yes, I now attend Mass at Gracie Mansion.
475 posted on 04/21/2007 8:41:34 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: joesbucks
“Honetly, if the founding fathers suddenly showed up today, there would be much they would be proud of and there would probably be much they would be disappointed in.”

If they were around today they would all be FReepers, likely would ask Jim to lead them, and they would be moderators because they would want to get the Rootybot’s minds right.

476 posted on 04/21/2007 8:41:44 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Registered

I can see I’m not the only one. Good.


477 posted on 04/21/2007 8:41:52 PM PDT by Peach
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To: AZRepublican
“Will FR embrace Hillary instead”

She is only the “other” choice for the Democrats. She is not even going to be in the Republican primary.

So pardon me, where does your statement come from?

478 posted on 04/21/2007 8:42:41 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: flashbunny

“see the link”
Heh, knew you would have it handy. Might even credit this whole brouhaha tonite to you and the others who ferreted out the real rudy record!


479 posted on 04/21/2007 8:42:48 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: rlmorel; Petronski

LOL!!


480 posted on 04/21/2007 8:42:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Coyoteman

Waaaay too many people around here are just wishing we had historical amnesia, and thanks for pointing out that what is considered trashing on this thread isn’t trashing at all.


481 posted on 04/21/2007 8:43:01 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
And yet you're still here...LOL!
482 posted on 04/21/2007 8:43:11 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: Miss Didi
It'll become a raging battleground between RNC (anybody but Hillary) loyalists and third party upstart supporters.

The core conservative goals of this site will remain the same, most likely. The debate over how to accomplish them will rage on in a different context.

483 posted on 04/21/2007 8:43:14 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Reagan was a liberal? What planet are you from? All he did was fight the hippies and the radicals while governor. He was called “far too conservative” right up until his election as president.

I remember Bob Dornan on “Tempo” screaming at the liberals calling in saying how much they hated “Reegan.” That was 1968. Reagan was no liberal. He ran as a Goldwater conservative against Pat Brown.

He was a man of the right from his days on “Death Valley Days.” You Giulianites always dream about your flawed little liberal as another Reagan. But you have your polarity reversed. You see Reagan as a liberal, and Giuliani as a conservative.

If anything, Reagan moved toward the middle during his presidency. He already had the right flank covered, and we trusted him. He was no liberal, not after 1964.

484 posted on 04/21/2007 8:43:58 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Peach
I seems to remember historical facts of his career is blasphemy. I loved the man as my President, I was not blind to him however.
485 posted on 04/21/2007 8:43:59 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: staytrue

Last time we had a Clinton in the white house with a democrat house and senate, two years with almost nothing happened and then we had republicans in control of the house and senate.

I think 2010 is much more likely to be a republican landslide if Hillary is president than if Rudy is president.


486 posted on 04/21/2007 8:43:59 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Reagan Man

Spoken by the man who denounces every Republican we have. Sure, you have credibility. /s


487 posted on 04/21/2007 8:44:00 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Coyoteman

The guy was trashing the founding fathers and religion thinking it would elevate the immoral abortionist gay agenda supporting liberal Rudy Giuliani. He was arguing exactly like a liberal. I’ve seen them do it over and over again. Trash the founders. Deny their religious backgrounds. Deny that America was founded and settled by Godly men on religious grounds. They want God completely out of the picture. Why?


488 posted on 04/21/2007 8:44:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

“Cuss word” NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


489 posted on 04/21/2007 8:45:19 PM PDT by therut
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To: rockrr

Knock it off.


490 posted on 04/21/2007 8:45:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Just say no to Brady Bunch Republicans.)
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To: rockrr

Only until management decides they want to please the whiners.


491 posted on 04/21/2007 8:45:28 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
Is that what you call it -a meltdown?

The way I see it, Jim's simply making conservatives feel welcome again. I was getting pretty tired of a certain group of 'pragmatists', longtime members who apparently thought they owned the place, who spent most of their time pinging each other to certain threads & sneering at social conservatives.

From what I can tell, alot of them are no longer here, and in my humble opinion thats an improvement.

492 posted on 04/21/2007 8:45:31 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Ol' Sparky
“leftist elements within the GOP that want to turn it into a Democratic-lite party”

“want” or “have”

493 posted on 04/21/2007 8:45:49 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Peach
No, I’m too fascinated watching the meltdown.

Ruh roh, what did Rudy do now?

Say, do you think there is a possibility that Gary Busey had an affair with Donna Hanover?

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494 posted on 04/21/2007 8:45:57 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Arizona Carolyn
He was considered a liberal, by any stretch of the imagination, when he was governor.

Complete nonsense.

495 posted on 04/21/2007 8:45:59 PM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: dynachrome

It certainly was a group effort. And it was great to see a bunch of conservatives working together to help keep yoko giuliani from breaking up the GOP.

Our next task is to get it out to conservative republicans in the outside world.


496 posted on 04/21/2007 8:46:03 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Woo hoo! Well stated, Mr. Robinson! Thank you for your vision for Free Republic and for your courage to fight the good fight for the unborn, and against the evil men and women that are taking over America! Our forefathers fought against the tyrants, and it looks like we’re going to have to do it too. I’m proud to be on your side! I will NEVER vote for Rudy, or any other liberal/RINO!


497 posted on 04/21/2007 8:46:09 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS A TRUE CONSERVATIVE!!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

THAT’S for sure . Might as well vote for the witch !


498 posted on 04/21/2007 8:46:17 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Jim Robinson
[.. Do you really expect me to do that? ..]

Not NO but HELL NO...

499 posted on 04/21/2007 8:46:37 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: veronica
The only question is, will those who support Rudy be allowed to post here

It's not surprising that a person who would support Rudy and claim he is conservative would also POST a comment asking if rudy supporters would be allowed to POST.

It's like asking someone to raise their hand if they can't hear you.

500 posted on 04/21/2007 8:46:52 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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