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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Registered
"A PT Barnum quote would be appropriate here. :-)"

How's about:

"Never attempt to catch a whale with a minnow."

Rudy's the minnow.

921 posted on 04/21/2007 10:30:18 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: narses

evil is good, and good is evil.


922 posted on 04/21/2007 10:30:48 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Blackirish
He cut taxes like crazy in NY....

All he did was reverse the 1.8 billion tax increase that his predecessor had just enacted. Not quite the accomplishment everyone wants to pretend it is. So, Dinkins added an average of $225 in taxes annually to each resident. Giuliani gave it back. $225! That won't buy a New Yorker much Latte. Obviously, you're easily impressed. I'm not.

923 posted on 04/21/2007 10:31:05 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Jim Robinson

bump til now to see what 900 posts have to say


924 posted on 04/21/2007 10:31:08 PM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Spyder

Facts are facts. Get over yourself. Get help. Liberalism is a mental health crisis.


925 posted on 04/21/2007 10:31:11 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: staytrue
A democrat congress with a Republican president that agrees with them on almost every issue is less caustic than a dem-dem ballot?

Neither is survivable.

Jim allows a incredible range of free debate on his forum. If he says that Rudy is intolerable, then perhaps it would bear for us all to listen.

926 posted on 04/21/2007 10:31:45 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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To: narses
She has a more pleasant voice. Plus she never evaded the draft nor dumped her spouse.

Way to defend the woman that protected a rapist. Nice job.
927 posted on 04/21/2007 10:31:56 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Jim Robinson
I’ll give you a chance to play tough again you 2-bit grifter, Ban me so your mouth breathers can go down on you again.
928 posted on 04/21/2007 10:32:12 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Peach
We who support Rudy have been quite vocal that we support him for his stance on national security

If you're so concerned with national security, why would you support someone who created the first sanctuary city (NY) for people who have entered our country illegally?

This make absolutely no sense.

You can't have national security, and on the other hand support people who enter the country illegally.

929 posted on 04/21/2007 10:32:23 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Sure, Rudy has crossover crossdressing appeal.
930 posted on 04/21/2007 10:32:39 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: Registered

We have freepers defending the Clinton machine and Rudy supporters are called RINOs. Well, they’re called worse than RINOs actually, but you get my point.


931 posted on 04/21/2007 10:32:57 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Jim Robinson

No way, Jim.


932 posted on 04/21/2007 10:33:09 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Texasforever

bye bye!


933 posted on 04/21/2007 10:33:11 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: Spyder

the 11th commandment attributed to reagan is merely a hiding place for liberal republicans to avoid having their liberalism brought to light.

If you really want to talk about what reagan felt, read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735897/posts

“I don ‘t know about you, but I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party”—when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents.”

...

“I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.”


934 posted on 04/21/2007 10:33:34 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Peach

Praising Hillary for anything should be instant removal from FR. Period.


935 posted on 04/21/2007 10:33:38 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Peach
I’m a disgusting idiot? I think you’re a brown noser. So I guess we’re even.

ROFL!!! Geesh, listen to yourself. This isn't about Rudy and the election. It's about Peach can say anything she damn well pleases. Good luck with trying to keep that up on this website.

936 posted on 04/21/2007 10:33:49 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: All

I believe the media is trying to shape the Republican nomination. Several have come forth that ‘they’ find acceptable and there is one conservative they fear so much they refuse to even talk about him or give time to him.

That man is Duncan Hunter. They cannot demonize him with anything used against W or other conservative republicans in the recent future.

I refuse to vote against anyone. That is a wasted vote. I am voting FOR someone. For the values my candidate represents and backs up with his actions.

I will Vote Duncan Hunter in my primary and I will vote Duncan Hunter in the General even if I have to write his name in. You see, I value my vote and no media, no blog, no FReeper will scare me into voting for someone just by claiming they are ‘electable’. Nor will they convince me to vote a certain way to vote against someone. Like Hillary or Obama. Neither has any real merit and even the MSM knows it.

If more people actually stand their ground based on values and voted their values instead of who the some say is ‘electable’, Duncan Hunter will be our next President.

MSM is scared of him and lack of coverage proves that imho. FReepers who claim he is unelectable, if they are claiming to be conservatives, are only spiting what they claim are their own values. They should all be ashamed of themselves for comprimising their own values for party power.

That, my Fellow Freepers, is how Democrats Operate. Enough already.

Stop talking conservative and vote conservative.

Vote Duncan Hunter ‘08... Because he is Right for America.


937 posted on 04/21/2007 10:34:25 PM PDT by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: Spiff
That won't buy a New Yorker much Latte. Obviously, you're easily impressed. I'm not.

I always figured the fiscal conservative stuff was garbage. Now I know for sure. He is a liberal in every sense of the word.
938 posted on 04/21/2007 10:34:29 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: rockrr

I see you are the first with the kleenex


939 posted on 04/21/2007 10:34:38 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: politicalwit

..and Rudy went against the advice of the police commissioner’s report concerning where Command and Control should be located pre-9/11, NOT at WTC “Ground Zero” as it was referred to by the commissioner even before that fateful day, but Rudy wanted it within walking distance of city hall, at WTC, which was even more expensive to do so. We all now know what deadly problems that decision cost. Rudy did not listen to his own ‘Military’.


940 posted on 04/21/2007 10:34:47 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and FRiends. ...Hunter '08.)
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