Skip to comments.Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to rule over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
“Youre the one threatening a 7-year FR”
lmao...that’s not a threat. I simply warned you, since you seem to think that insulting the owner is fine, to be careful of your ignorance.
No, if it were a threat, you’d know it sweetie.
I have stayed off the FR political threads because I don’t find food fights enlightening, and certainly not entertaining. Hence I have no idea what your position has been on Rudy.
But I have seen you on many other threads, and always valued your opinion and input.
I assume you are supporting Rudy (sorry if I got that wrong). If so, I can see why. He is, in fact, our most charismatic candidate. And he is, in fact, trying to woo the conservative wing of the Republican party. So far I’m unconvinced, but I’m willing to listen while he tries.
When this fratricidal war is finally over, I’m also hoping that all the Rudy, McCain, and Romney supporters can swallow their disappointment and rally round whoever it is we actually nominate.
You miss the humor. Sorta like dwarf tossing.
I didn't call you an disgusting idiot for supporting Rudy. You are trashing Jim, you are trashing the whole website over and over. You have made it abundantly clear that you aren't here because you like the webmaster or the website anymore you are here because you think that Peach should be able to say whatever she damn well pleases and we should have to listen to it.
Well, who the hell were you talking about then when you replied to M. Thatcher above about some guy called “Jim Robinson.”
I do support Rudy. And I’ll vote for whichever candidate gets the nod, unlike some freepers here who sound like Democrats by saying they’ll vote for Hillary before they vote for Rudy.
This gal is not from Texas.
Who has said they’d vote for hillary?
When this fratricidal war is finally over, Im also hoping that all the Rudy, McCain, and Romney supporters can swallow their disappointment and rally round whoever it is we actually nominate.Not possible. If the baby-killer wins, those of us who are conservative bolt. If a conservative wins, those who want babies dead bolt. It is a divisive issue and that is a good thing. sheep's and goats need division.
He really said that?
There is one it's called the Constitution Party. Their only plank I don't care for is the relatively isolationist stance but they are a lot better than the Libertarian Party.
Think I’ll take cover...
This is a war-of-words zone....
Although either would be a disaster IMO, Rudy would be worse because he will pull the whole country to the left.
Conservatives will unite against Hillary or Obama.
I am sincerely afraid to vote for a man with cancer, no matter how not serious, when Pelosi is third in line.
“The rumor of Sadaam with any type of weapon’s was too great to overlook. “
The ‘rumor’? It was well documented that Saddam did, indeed have weapons. What were those Russian trucks doing crossing the border into Syria just before we attacked?
What was the purpose of all those U.N. resolutions if Saddam’s weapons were only a ‘rumor’?
Why were the weapons inspectors thrown out of Iraq in 1998?
And the U.N.’s buddy ‘Hans’ as an inspector was a joke.
“My question is and remains: do we need “conservatives” looking out for our best interests (security), or “liberals” looking out for our best interests (civil rights)?”
Why do you separate ‘security’ from ‘civil’ when it comes to conservatives?
It’s not an ‘either’,’or’ situtation. It’s both, including ‘fiscal’. You cannot say that true ‘conservatism’ is one or the other.
It’s ‘all of the above’.
I think my tag line says it all about people who want to believe the ‘rumor mills’ instead of using intelligence,research and common sense.
You know what it is. These folks aren’t full fledged conservatives. Period. They don’t agree with Reagan’s old coalition of social and fiscal conservatives. You remember that coalition. It was the one that gave the GOP some serious historic election day victories in 1980, 1984, 1988, 1994, 2000 and yes, even 2004!
Today it would appear the liberal Republicans are making a move to hijack the GOP and take back in time 30 years. Back to time of Rockefeller Republicanism. In the process, these Rockefeller Republicans want to make sure one of their own gets the nomination. Rudy Giuliani is perfect example of a liberal Republican —— the epitome of Rockefeller Republicanism.
Reagan was a good president. Reagan also signed an abortion friendly bill as governor of California, that he later said was a mistake. No one, save Jesus, who has walked this Earth has ever been perfect. We should try to learn from the mistakes our heroes made while remembering their accomplishments.
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