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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Spyder

“You’re the one threatening a 7-year FR”

lmao...that’s not a threat. I simply warned you, since you seem to think that insulting the owner is fine, to be careful of your ignorance.

No, if it were a threat, you’d know it sweetie.


981 posted on 04/21/2007 10:42:45 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Peach; Jim Robinson

I have stayed off the FR political threads because I don’t find food fights enlightening, and certainly not entertaining. Hence I have no idea what your position has been on Rudy.

But I have seen you on many other threads, and always valued your opinion and input.

I assume you are supporting Rudy (sorry if I got that wrong). If so, I can see why. He is, in fact, our most charismatic candidate. And he is, in fact, trying to woo the conservative wing of the Republican party. So far I’m unconvinced, but I’m willing to listen while he tries.

When this fratricidal war is finally over, I’m also hoping that all the Rudy, McCain, and Romney supporters can swallow their disappointment and rally round whoever it is we actually nominate.


982 posted on 04/21/2007 10:42:49 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: Texasforever
Now we see who the Dumbass is. LOL

:O)

P

Run, FRED, run!

983 posted on 04/21/2007 10:43:39 PM PDT by papasmurf (Name me one nation that taxed itself into prosperity. Run, FRED, run!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Texasforever

You miss the humor. Sorta like dwarf tossing.


984 posted on 04/21/2007 10:43:55 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Peach
Gasp. You mean, like support a candidate you don't like? Oh sure. That's never been done here before.

I didn't call you an disgusting idiot for supporting Rudy. You are trashing Jim, you are trashing the whole website over and over. You have made it abundantly clear that you aren't here because you like the webmaster or the website anymore you are here because you think that Peach should be able to say whatever she damn well pleases and we should have to listen to it.

985 posted on 04/21/2007 10:44:04 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Peach

Well, who the hell were you talking about then when you replied to M. Thatcher above about some guy called “Jim Robinson.”


986 posted on 04/21/2007 10:44:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Peach; Elyse
I’m a disgusting idiot? I think you’re a brown noser. So I guess we’re even.

Tick, tick, tick.
987 posted on 04/21/2007 10:44:12 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: EternalHope

I do support Rudy. And I’ll vote for whichever candidate gets the nod, unlike some freepers here who sound like Democrats by saying they’ll vote for Hillary before they vote for Rudy.


988 posted on 04/21/2007 10:44:34 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Texasforever

This gal is not from Texas.


989 posted on 04/21/2007 10:45:41 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: narses
Uh, yeah. Except one tiny detail. It doesn't address mangement's point that I've lied about his position. Other than that tiny little discrepancy, sure, it was a great post. /s
990 posted on 04/21/2007 10:45:54 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

Who has said they’d vote for hillary?


991 posted on 04/21/2007 10:45:58 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: EternalHope
When this fratricidal war is finally over, I’m also hoping that all the Rudy, McCain, and Romney supporters can swallow their disappointment and rally round whoever it is we actually nominate.
Not possible. If the baby-killer wins, those of us who are conservative bolt. If a conservative wins, those who want babies dead bolt. It is a divisive issue and that is a good thing. sheep's and goats need division.
992 posted on 04/21/2007 10:46:02 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

He really said that?


993 posted on 04/21/2007 10:46:14 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Man50D
Unfortunately it has already. Conservatives can also fight back by distancing themselves from the socialists in the Republican party and form a Conservative party.

There is one it's called the Constitution Party. Their only plank I don't care for is the relatively isolationist stance but they are a lot better than the Libertarian Party.

994 posted on 04/21/2007 10:46:22 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Hi sjb

Think I’ll take cover...

This is a war-of-words zone....


995 posted on 04/21/2007 10:46:23 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Cincinna
“A Hillary or Obama victory will destroy the country.”

Although either would be a disaster IMO, Rudy would be worse because he will pull the whole country to the left.

Conservatives will unite against Hillary or Obama.

996 posted on 04/21/2007 10:46:51 PM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I am sincerely afraid to vote for a man with cancer, no matter how not serious, when Pelosi is third in line.


997 posted on 04/21/2007 10:46:56 PM PDT by donna (America used up all the good weather.)
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To: raygun

“The rumor of Sadaam with any type of weapon’s was too great to overlook. “

The ‘rumor’? It was well documented that Saddam did, indeed have weapons. What were those Russian trucks doing crossing the border into Syria just before we attacked?

What was the purpose of all those U.N. resolutions if Saddam’s weapons were only a ‘rumor’?

Why were the weapons inspectors thrown out of Iraq in 1998?

And the U.N.’s buddy ‘Hans’ as an inspector was a joke.

“My question is and remains: do we need “conservatives” looking out for our best interests (security), or “liberals” looking out for our best interests (civil rights)?”

Why do you separate ‘security’ from ‘civil’ when it comes to conservatives?

It’s not an ‘either’,’or’ situtation. It’s both, including ‘fiscal’. You cannot say that true ‘conservatism’ is one or the other.

It’s ‘all of the above’.

I think my tag line says it all about people who want to believe the ‘rumor mills’ instead of using intelligence,research and common sense.


998 posted on 04/21/2007 10:47:22 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Kevmo

You know what it is. These folks aren’t full fledged conservatives. Period. They don’t agree with Reagan’s old coalition of social and fiscal conservatives. You remember that coalition. It was the one that gave the GOP some serious historic election day victories in 1980, 1984, 1988, 1994, 2000 and yes, even 2004!

Today it would appear the liberal Republicans are making a move to hijack the GOP and take back in time 30 years. Back to time of Rockefeller Republicanism. In the process, these Rockefeller Republicans want to make sure one of their own gets the nomination. Rudy Giuliani is perfect example of a liberal Republican —— the epitome of Rockefeller Republicanism.


999 posted on 04/21/2007 10:47:25 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Peach
He also said that it was a mistake, and the enforcement provisions of that “amnesty bill” have never been implemented.

Reagan was a good president. Reagan also signed an abortion friendly bill as governor of California, that he later said was a mistake. No one, save Jesus, who has walked this Earth has ever been perfect. We should try to learn from the mistakes our heroes made while remembering their accomplishments.

1,000 posted on 04/21/2007 10:47:31 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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