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To: Peach

Peach wrote: “Making conservatives feel welcome? Which conservatives are those? Certainly not fiscal conservatives. Or law and order conservatives. Ooh, ooh - wait. You mean making social conservatives feel at home.”

That’s a bogus argument, Peach. Most conservatives can’t be so conveniently classified as that. Most conservatives I know are conservative in their views on social, fiscal and security issues.

Most people I know who are liberal on social issues but conservative on fiscal issues are libertarians, not conservatives.

Joe Lieberman is conservative on L&O and security issues, but he’s a liberal on most everything else, and not even close to being a conservative overall.

The Issues2000 website classified Rudy as a libertarian-leaning moderate, which is an arguable point. He’s just so liberal on the four real hot-button social issues (abortion, illegal immigration, gays and guns) that conservatives who believe in fiscal restraint, security AND traditional values can’t bring ourselves to even consider him.

Rudy’s support of social tinkering on any one or two of these issues would be deal breakers by themselves, but ALL FOUR?

Unacceptable.

And even if Rudy is a moderate, what good is that? The GOP moderates and their suicidal tendency to go along with liberal Dimocracks have made a real mess of the Republican Party and the nation.

It’s going to take a lot of hard work just to get the country back on the path Ronald Reagan set it upon a little over a quarter-century ago. this is not a job that we can trust a moderate or a liberal to do. We need a conservative for this task.


1,062 posted on 04/21/2007 11:05:48 PM PDT by Josh Painter ("The government, basically, cannot manage large projects very well." - Fred Thompson)
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To: Sturm Ruger

Just a note, but the spending shown by our Republican Congressmen last year was anything but conservative. Does that mean none of the people who voted on those spending bills are conservative? Of course not.

And I haven’t said I’m not socially conservative. I’ve said that I’m putting national security ahead of social issues. As are lots of conservatives, including people who self identify as socons.

If socons self identify themselves as such, does that mean they aren’t really conservatives because they aren’t as concerned with national security or spending? Naturally it doesn’t mean that at all.


1,115 posted on 04/21/2007 11:16:29 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Sturm Ruger
Excellent post. Well stated.

Nam Vet

1,189 posted on 04/21/2007 11:33:13 PM PDT by Nam Vet ( The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.)
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